Mexico City Makes History

March 12, 2010 at 6:21 am 102 comments

by Brian Leubitz

Mexico City today became the first place in Latin America to offer same-sex marriages to the public.

The mayor was there. So were the protesters. Judith Vazquez wore an ivory wedding dress. So did her bride.

Vazquez and Lol Kin Castaneda on Thursday became the first gay couple to marry in Mexico under a new law that allows same-sex couples to wed and to adopt children.

The law was passed by the Mexico City legislature in December and applies only to the capital. It is the most far-reaching gay-rights law in Latin America and one of several measures that have put the city and its leaders at odds with the more conservative country.

“This is a historic day,” presiding judge Hegel Cortes said shortly after pronouncing Vazquez and Castaneda “legitimately united in matrimony.” Three other same-sex couples also tied the knot.(LA Times)

It’s really a good time to be alive. We’re seeing progress every day. Sure, there are bad days along the way (see Nov 5, 2008) and challenges that we must face. And success will never arrive quickly enough. But, in another sense, the struggle for marriage equality is an achievement of our community. Every fight, every roadblock just makes the effort more momentous. It’s history, and we’re living it. We’re doing it. Of course, I can only say this because I am so supremely confident that we will win in jurisdiction after jurisdiction. We have justice on our side.

But do not doubt that there will be challenges. In Mexico, the federal government and the Roman Catholic Church are doing everything they can to fight the capitol city’s decision to authorize these marriages. The federal government is suing to stop the marriages, and the Church, well they are doing the same thing they do here. Preaching against fairness in matters of love.

One more point, under Mexican law, other states are legally bound to recognize same-sex marriages. Obviously there hasn’t been much of a test to this matter yet, but with this decision Mexicans across the nation should, theoretically, have the opportunity to wed.

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  • 1. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 6:45 am

    Yea! I read this story this morning (I have been up for a while) Now, Mexico and Canada have gay marriage – what’s wrong with the US? <3 David

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    • 2. Bob  |  March 12, 2010 at 9:12 am

      David, your gov’t and the church are in bed together, fnnng each other in every orifice they can, addicted to sex and power, creating wealth consuming them in ultra orgasms, which they want to keep only for themselves. Don’t worry the citizens are waking up to this, and eventually their intimacy, will become toxic, and they will realize that it has to be one or the other, because the public won’t accept the union, then we can all celebrate the most joyous divorce in the history of humankind
      The peasants could rise, against the oppressors, but first we need to become aware in our minds of the true underpinnings which are holding the U.S. people back. REVOLT

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  • 3. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  March 12, 2010 at 6:47 am

    It wonderful watching progress across the globe. As of yesterday, Chile has a new president, Sebastian Pinera. He featured a gay couple in his campaign ads. He was raised in a conservative Catholic family. http://www.cigionline.org/articles/2010/01/chiles-new-president-no-simple-conservative

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    • 4. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:08 am

      Here is the ad I mentioned…couple shows up several times between :40 and 1:00

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      • 5. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:14 am

        Thanx, Gregory! I see Mexico is very inclusive, since the ad showed some “deaf signing” too! Woohoo! <3 David

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      • 6. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:23 am

        actually its Chile :)

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      • 7. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:30 am

        Oops, my mistake! I knew it was Spanish, so hey not doin’ too bad this morning! (chuckles) <3 David

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  • 8. Richard Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  March 12, 2010 at 6:48 am

    Yes, Brian, LGBTQQI’s across Mexico do theoretically have the opportunity to get married, but it is under the theory that they are able to afford a trip to Mexico City. Similar to the way it is here in the United States. If you hav the money to go to one of the states where it is legal, you can get married. There is one other difference. In Mexico, once you get married in one state, every state had to recognize it. That is their law. Wish that were the law here.

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    • 9. Mike  |  March 12, 2010 at 8:19 am

      So the Mexican Federal Goverment has to recognize it ?

      So, IF I marry a Mexican National….will I be able to obtain a Mexican Citizenship ?

      WOW

      I can see why the Mexican Federal Goverment wants to STOP this badly…..

      ….they are about to have a millions of Gay and Lesbians American swim across the Rio Grande looking for a life of opportunities, liberty and happiness !!!

      A related question – if a Mexican that crosses the Rio Grande is called a “Wetbag”….what will you call a Lesbian ?

      ….a “Wet-Rug”

      and a Gay guy ?

      ….a “Wet-Willy”

      :-)

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  • 10. Kathleen  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:00 am

    Yay! Another example of justice and love triumphant!

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  • 11. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:12 am

    Thanks Brian….this thread reminded me that when I was studying Political Science during Bush’s run for second term….and my teacher saying this is a good time to be studying this….Think about all the teens, and college students who are taking these courses right now and studying about civil rights and women’s rights…..This history in the making….

    I feel the need to have a “Gaystock” in upstate NY…lol….”come on people now smile on each other…..everybody get together right now”……hehehe…..<3….Ronnie

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  • 12. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:19 am

    I thought it was time for a video – I have been up too long, since 3a! <3 David

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    • 13. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:23 am

      3am?….thats like 12am my time….GO TO SLEEP!!!!!…..lol…..<3….Ronnie

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      • 14. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:28 am

        Actually, no it’s like 6a your time! I am going back to sleep soon…I hope. <3 David

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      • 15. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:31 am

        hehehe…I just woke up….Haven’t had my coffee yet…..<3…Ronnie

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    • 16. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:38 am

      At about 4:37 into the video, there’s a frame that says “STOP GAY OPPRESSION Spay or Neuter an Evangelical! I roared when I saw this one. <3 David

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      • 17. Ed-M  |  March 12, 2010 at 9:29 am

        @david Kimble: That’s a good one! I know it will never be carried out, BUT… the haterovangelicals richly deserve this kind of insult. Note it’s not directed at Who they claim to be their God (Sir Elton is Right) but at THEM. After all the mocking abuse, death threats, violence, including rape and murder from the hateros’ side, I can’t but help feel a little schadenfreude.

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  • 18. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:30 am

    “The mayor was there. “””””So were the protesters.””””” Judith Vazquez wore an ivory wedding dress. So did her bride.”

    (me) This response is to the line in quotes…..You know what….who the fu<k do these Hateros think they are……protesting someone wedding….

    Thanks Hateros for giving us a reason to return the gesture….I say that we start to protest at Hatero wedding in this country…..NO JUSTICE NO PEACE….. I mean seriously if people were to protest at their weddings all hell would break loose….effing Hypocrite Bigot Hateros….

    Thats a new one…You're an HBH….Learn it….Live it…..Love it…..<3….Ronnie

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    • 19. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:46 am

      LOL – yes, it is a new one! Thanx, Ronnie. I need to take a nap now – take care all and enjoy the music! <3 David

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      • 20. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:53 am

        Enjoy your rest…David K…..<3…Ronnie

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    • 21. Bill  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:49 am

      Did you not get the hatero memo?

      They OWN marriage.

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      • 22. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:55 am

        Bill….it must’ve gotten lost in the mail along with my free coupon to download The “Gay Agenda” Handbook for Kindle…..bwaaaaaa……<3….Ronnie

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    • 23. PDXAndrew  |  March 12, 2010 at 11:39 am

      Heh… Boycotting hatero weddings… Sounds like a good idea… Now to identify those hateros from our wonderful straight allies… Just tagreting a Mormon or Catholic church would be stereotyping almost as bad as that of the hateros themselves.

      Love, Andrew

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      • 24. Bill  |  March 12, 2010 at 5:09 pm

        Maybe we could identify them in the same way their ‘men on God’ have suggested for us.

        It certainly would make things easier, no? ; )

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7655585.stm

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      • 25. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 5:18 pm

        You see Bill…there it is again…..when ever a Hatero Bigot gets backed into a corner for publicly making an anti-gay statement…….they say…”I certainly have nothing against homosexuals. Many of my dear friends have been and are of that persuasion.”…..

        but then says……”What I have got against them is the militant preaching of homosexuality.”

        With friends like that…..who needs enemies?…..I sweak that friends line is like the Hatero version of….

        “This one time…at band camp…….”

        Give me a break………<3….Ronnie

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  • 26. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 8:09 am

    So tell me again….who’s getting publicly threatened?

    http://www.advocate.com/Arts_and_Entertainment/Entertainment_News/Elton_John_Death_Threat_Activist_Arrested/

    Posted on Advocate.com March 12, 2010
    Elton John Death Threat Activist Arrested
    An anti-abortion activist who threatened the life of Elton John over the singer’s comments about a “gay Jesus” was arrested Wednesday in Georgia.
    By Julie Bolcer

    “An anti-abortion activist who issued a death threat against Elton John over the singer’s comments about a gay Jesus was arrested Wednesday in Georgia.”

    (me) This guy is going to sleep with smoked salmon for threatening the god mother of the Gay Mafia….bwaaaaaa…..

    ““Neal Horsley, 65, was arrested early Wednesday in Carrollton, about 50 miles west of Atlanta,”

    (me) Neal Horse-lay……bwaaaaaaaaaaaa…….

    “Horsley posted a video February 28 in which he held a sign that said “Elton John Must Die” outside an Atlanta building where he said the singer has a condo. The activist was infuriated by John’s comments to Parade magazine last month that Jesus was a “compassionate, super-intelligent gay man.”

    (me) Well…I’m infuriated that you threatened a Knight….new joke……”If you threaten a Knight for voicing his opinion because he doesn’t play by the rules of conservative reich lies….you just might be a Hatero”

    you thought I was gonna say redneck didn’t you?…No this guy is an insult to rednecks….at least some rednecks have compassion and wouldn’t waste their time to threaten Sir Elton John…….And some even support Equality….<3…Ronnie

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    • 27. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 8:37 am

      They craziest thing about this bale of hay………hehehehehe….Is that he “has declared a gubernatorial candidacy for 2010.”……Dude you publicly threatened a man and are being investigated “on charges including the dissemination of terroristic threats over the Internet.”…….you were put in jail….you have a criminal record now….good luck with that political career…..Horse-lay……bwaaaaaaaaaaa…..<3…Ronnie

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      • 28. Bob  |  March 12, 2010 at 9:23 am

        Ronnie, sounds more like he passes the test, he’s in, that’s the category of most politicians, dirty bastards, they’d love him

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      • 29. Bry  |  March 12, 2010 at 9:42 am

        I’ve read elsewhere that he was quite possibly a practicioner of beastiality.

        He had literally stuck it up a sheep

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    • 30. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 10:22 am

      Horsley founded the Creator’s Rights Party and has declared himself a candidate in the 2010 governor’s race. He kicked off his campaign July 4, 2008 in downtown Carrollton, wearing a placard showing the head of an aborted fetus while singing an anti-abortion song.

      The state ethics commission, which oversees election filings, has no record of Horsley’s campaign.

      He previously gained notoriety in the late 1990s for his role in establishing a Web site that published the names and addresses of doctors who performed abortions. Planned Parenthood officials called the site a “hit list for terrorists.”

      Fulton County jail records showed Horsley also faces charges of criminal defamation and disseminating terroristic threats over the Internet.

      He was being held Thursday in the Fulton County jail on $40,000 bond. As conditions for his release, a judge said he must live with his son in a house with a phone landline and must pay 10 percent of his bond in cash.

      Horsley’s son said his father doesn’t have an attorney.

      Looks like this guy is in for some serious trouble

      Here’s a link to the full story –
      http://music.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=487661&gt1=28102

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  • 31. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 9:09 am

    http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/03/12/Constance_McMillen_Speaks_with_CBS_News/

    Posted on Advocate.com March 12, 2010
    Constance McMillen Talks About Prom Battle
    By Julie Bolcer

    “The young woman said some peers have told her, “You ruined my senior year,” but she does not regret her decision to challenge the antigay policy. ”

    (me) But what about her(Constance) senior year….the school ruined her senior year….selfish ingrates….

    There video interview with the link…She is so brave….<3…Ronnie

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    • 32. PDXAndrew  |  March 12, 2010 at 11:57 am

      Any update yet from Ellen, Oprah, Rosie, View, or anyone else as to your generous offer to help with the outfits for Constance & her date?

      I have no creative skills meself (I can’t even sew on a button); what can the rest of us do to help make this prom a reality?
      I would love to see them get the mist awesomest prom possible.
      I was still in the closet for my senior prom, and had to take a girl (ewww cooties), and was dreading the whole slow-dancing and such expected activities. I would wish that Constance’s experience will be better than mine.

      Love, Andrew

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      • 33. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 12:05 pm

        No nothing yet…I emailed the ACLU and let them know…and I joined the FB group:

        http://www.facebook.com/pages/Let-Constance-Take-Her-Girlfriend-to-Prom/357686784817

        I wasn’t out in high school either and took a friend who was a girl….but I still had fun….but later on I was like I wish I was out in high school and had a boyfriend to bring with me…Hopefully I can make up for that in 3 years at the 10 year reunion….<3…Ronnie

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      • 34. John  |  March 12, 2010 at 12:11 pm

        I joined that group as well, and a fan page on the subject. Not much, but I do what I can.

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      • 35. Dieter  |  March 12, 2010 at 12:37 pm

        NOLA hotel offers free prom to students after local school board canceled when girl asked girl to the dance

        now they can still have their prom, and allow gays.

        school: ZERO
        Equality: ONE

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      • 36. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 12:38 pm

        I just joined too! However, when I left a comment, it didn’t appear…hmm…that’s one of the reasons I don’t like FB – too confusing, as to who you are writing to at that site. <3 David

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      • 37. fiona64  |  March 12, 2010 at 12:56 pm

        David, be sure the view you are looking at on the fan page includes “fans.” There is a “page only,” “just fans,” and “page+fans” version of each page.

        Your comment is probably on one of the other tabs because of the way the page owner set it up.

        Love,
        Fiona

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      • 38. Jeff jones  |  March 12, 2010 at 3:02 pm

        I would be willing to donate cash to organize a non-school function prom for her entire school. If everyone here donated, imagine how much better their prom would be if the lgbt community across the country donated to this. Who’s senior year would be ruined then???

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      • 39. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:31 pm

        Ronnie, I went to FB and sent a message to Kate Kendall at NCLR about your offer. Email me and tell me what infor to give her to pass on to them.

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  • 40. Bob  |  March 12, 2010 at 9:20 am

    who owns the word marriage, really I’m thinking remember when Donal Trump took ownership of the words “you’re fired” he went to court and got something like a patent or something to that phrase, in my willdest dreams last night that’s what we did, and the case was over.

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  • 41. Brad  |  March 12, 2010 at 9:24 am

    So … my husband and I reside in Arizona where our MA ss marriage is not recognized. I hold dual Mexican-USA citizenship and aside from the home in which we reside in Arizona, I own a house in Sonora that I rent out. So far as I’ve imagined up until now, Sonora is as retarded as Arizona about ss marriages (it joined a suit brought with four other Mexican states to block ss marriage in D.F.) Now, if our MA marriage is recognized in D.F. will Sonora be forced to recognize it as well? Immigration isn’t important in our particular case since we both hold USA citizenship & he doesn’t want any other citizenship.

    BTW for the readers here who have spent extensive time over the past, say, decade staying in D.F., I’m sure this is very pleasing news but not much of a surprise. D.F. and provincial Mexico are two VERY different worlds.

    Cheers,

    Brad

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  • 42. Michelle Evans  |  March 12, 2010 at 11:39 am

    I had an amazing moment yesterday. Cherie and I went to a college to do our talk about what it is to be transgender and a spouse of a trans. It was a big class and most everyone was pretty welcoming of us and what we had to say. I always try to see most of the people in the class and get some sort of gauge about how they are thinking. In other words, are they accepting or do they have hatred in their eyes. In this case there was a Muslim student toward the back whom I took to be very fundamentalist in his thoughts due to his manner of traditional dress, that sort of thing. At the end of the class, to my great surprise, he was the first person to come forward, shake our hands, and thank us for our presentation. That had been the last thing I expected and I was so happy to be so wrong in my own stereotyping.

    ‘It takes incidents like this to shake ourselves up as well and not get complacent that just because someone is a member of a fundamentalist church, say, that they will automatically be against us. I have a great friend who is in that situation, and yet he has stuck with me and remains my friend after transition. Wish I could say the same for others who did not treat me so well.

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    • 43. fiona64  |  March 12, 2010 at 12:59 pm

      I relate a story in my memoir that is very similar. It does wake you up.

      Here is the story in question:

      “Doug at the Mall”

      Nov. 1, 2008

      I saw “RocknRolla” today, and it is so brilliant that I would see it again *tonight.* So, check out Gerry’s new movie.

      The big news, though, is that I did my first in-person political activism ever. I went out on a visibility activity for No on 8, working a table at the local mall with two other people. Susan and Mark were a gas, and it seemed like our three-hour shift flew by in minutes. The guy from the kiosk near the table the mall gave us (which was directly under their security cameras) kept sneering and taking our photos with his cell phone. It was bizarre.

      Anyway, most people were very nice. We were not permitted, by mall rules, to hand things out, but we could put out literature and signs for people to take if they wanted them. We had a number of people stop by and say nice things, a lot of people taking stickers and putting them on … and few people who were ornery but not quite belligerent (like the guy who said “I have a question about kids,” and then couldn’t frame a question … of course we knew what he was trying to get at, but I kept saying “I can’t answer your question if you don’t ask it,” and just refused to engage).

      But the three of us learned a lesson in humility when Doug came up to the table. Doug is an elderly man, and was with his wife. When we talked about the incident afterward, we all agreed that we began to mentally prepare ourselves for another rant about “god” or “children” or something.

      Doug came up to the table and said “Thank you. I voted against this damned Prop 8. I’ve got a son who is gay, and my daughter gave me five beautiful, half-black grandchildren. Prejudice and bigotry are just wrong. People should know better in this day and age.”

      He then told a funny story that made us laugh, and we agreed that if Doug ran for president we would vote for him.

      So thank you, Doug, for making my day. I told your story to the other volunteers at No on 8 headquarters while we ate our nice Togos sandwiches (thanks for the sandwiches, gang!). We’re grateful to people like you who really get it.

      Love,
      Fiona

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  • 44. Dieter  |  March 12, 2010 at 12:32 pm

    Gay marriage more destructive than smoking, Hurley says:

    http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2010/03/12/gay-marriage-more-destructive-than-smoking-group-says/

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    • 45. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 12:44 pm

      Hmm, looks like they are using old statistics again…since all I could find was this, which if you will note is a study from 2000. <3 David
      http://www.cdc.gov/stdconference/2000/media/STDGay2000.htm

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    • 47. John  |  March 12, 2010 at 12:49 pm

      Even assuming their information is true, the conclusion I reach is pretty much the opposite of theirs. Banning gay marraige will not stop gay sex, and if anything it will increase promiscuity on average (and, by extension, STD transfer). So allowing it should actually help the problem (again, assuming there is one in the first place).

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      • 48. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 12:52 pm

        Yes, I agree, John! Thanx for making the point.
        <3 David

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    • 49. Kathleen  |  March 12, 2010 at 2:51 pm

      GASP, so you mean all that hell I went through 16 years ago to quit smoking was for naught? If I really wanted to improve my health I should have quit being bi? Oh, wait… this only applies to gay men, so I guess I’m okay after all.

      Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. Do you think these people really believe this crud or do they just hunt around for random snippets of information, to “justify” their preexisting opinions?

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      • 50. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 3:21 pm

        That’s precisely what they do Kathleen…..be we know that they are full of shite….and know nothing about reality….<3..Ronnie

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  • 51. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    New Data Reveal 7th Consecutive Syphilis Increase in the U.S. and Opportunities to Improve STD Screening and Prevention for Gay and Bisexual Men
    — Preliminary 2007 Syphilis Data Indicate Continued Increases among Men Who Have Sex with Men (MSM) and Concerning Rise among Women and African-Americans —
    — Studies among MSM Show Need for Increased STD Testing, Including Testing at All Anatomic Sites of Exposure —
    Chicago (March 12, 2008) –The U.S. syphilis rate increased for the seventh consecutive year in 2007, largely reflecting continued increases among men who have sex with men (MSM), according to preliminary data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) presented today at the 2008 National STD Prevention Conference.

    Other studies released at the conference indicate that many MSM with sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) remain undiagnosed due to inadequate STD testing.

    “STDs remain a major threat to the health of gay and bisexual men, in part because having an STD other than HIV can increase the risk of transmitting or acquiring HIV,” said Kevin Fenton, M.D., director of CDC’s National Center for HIV/AIDS, Viral Hepatitis, STD and TB Prevention. “The resurgence of syphilis among MSM represents a formidable challenge to our STD prevention efforts, but one that is surmountable. The solution comes down to making STD screening and treatment a central part of medical care for gay and bisexual men, while finding innovative ways to help MSM avoid STD infections – including HIV – in the first place.”

    This is what the study says. <3 David

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    • 52. Kathleen  |  March 12, 2010 at 3:00 pm

      I don’t want to go all conspiracy theory here, nor do I want to move this thread way off topic. But as someone who has chronic Lyme disease, I know there’s some speculation in medical circles that the rise in positive syphilis test results might be partially due to false positives resulting from cross reaction with Lyme infection. The bacteria that cause syphilis and Lyme are both spirochetes and there’s been some preliminary data suggesting that some antibody tests for the two bacteria might cross react. Lyme is a rapidly emerging disease. There are compelling reasons to believe that Lyme can be sexually transmitted, yet there has been very little research to explore this possibility.

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      • 53. Michelle Evans  |  March 12, 2010 at 3:11 pm

        There are other diseases that also give false positives for STDs. Case in point is my wife Cherie. She has Lupus. It can be a very nasty disease, one that has killed friends of hers, but in this point, she knew ahead of time when we got our marriage blood test that she would test positive for STD because of Lupus–and she did. Lupus can also be very benign and who knows how many false positives have resulted from its presence.

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    • 54. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 3:38 pm

      I just got from my afternoon nap and wanted to say one thing about the study – while I appreciate that scientific studies are being done, I agree with those who point to other factors. Another point, I feel is worthy of making is what Ronnie pointed out – they force us into hiding and then claim statistics, which can be interpreted in several different ways. <3 David

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  • 55. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    This is what I have to say that….

    Getting married means that 2 people are trying to commit to a monogamous relationship..i.e…..2 people only forsaking all others…i.e. not having sex with anybody else other then the person you chose to spend the rest of their life with……

    Therefore Marriage reduces the rate of infection of everything other then swine flu…..so by him and other hateros saying that Gay people should not have marriage because some how in their narrow little uneducated ignorant naive dumb as all hell minds “only” same sex marriage spreads disease …yeah right….whatever you say Psychos…….they want us to die….point taken….throw him in jail………<3…..Ronnie

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  • 56. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    http://www.365gay.com/news/aclu-files-complaint-over-lesbians-military-dismissal/

    ACLU files complaint over lesbian’s military dismissal
    By Ruth Schneider, 365gay.com
    03.12.2010 2:55pm EST

    “Two Rapid City, S.D., police officers are accused of playing a part in getting a staff sergeant from Ellsworth Air Force Base expelled from the military under Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, KOTA reported.”

    (me) soooooo…now the police are getting involved….there’s your tax money at work people…..

    “The officers noticed an Iowa marriage certificate on the kitchen table, and while the marriage did not relate to the police matter, the officers reported it to the Ellsworth AFB Office of Special Investigations. Newsome was promptly discharged for violating Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.”

    (me) But they didn’t ask…..and she didn’t tell…..sooo they broke their own rule….even if these police officers said something…….YOU’RE ALOUD TO FU<KING ASK!!!!!!!!!!!…….

    "“I’ll just say when a member of the Air Force is involved in an incident, we have a long standing policy to report those occurrences to the Air Force Office of Special Investigations,” Allender said."

    (me) yeah ok the incident…go ahead and report that…. but you have no right reporting her private life….WITCH HUNTERS!!!!!!!……<3….Ronnie

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    • 57. fiona64  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:08 pm

      Again, the *immediate* order as DADT is being ramped down was that third-party accusations would be disregarded.

      What absolute crap.

      Love,
      Fiona

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    • 58. JQ  |  March 13, 2010 at 12:14 pm

      And you notice the ‘askers’ are never discharged for violating DADT. If the military is going to continue following this detrimental policy, at least it should be applied evenly! ;)

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  • 59. Dieter  |  March 12, 2010 at 1:34 pm

    LOL..they lose again:

    NOLA hotel offers free prom to students after local school board canceled when girl asked girl to the dance

    now they can still have their prom, and allow gays.

    school: ZERO
    Equality: ONE

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  • 60. Dieter  |  March 12, 2010 at 2:02 pm

    I just sent an e-mail to smuckers regarding their sponsorship of the program that has decided not to allow Johhny Weir to skate because he is too gay. Amazingly enough within minutes I received a phone call from smuckers from a rep who stated emphatically that they had no idea what was going on. The rep asked me to explain. and boy did I !!!
    WE need to inundate their site with complaints.
    clearly they are ready to listen. I never had a phone call so fast from a negative e-mail I sent to any company.

    Flood their site with complaints!!

    Let Johnny SKATE!!!

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  • 62. Dieter  |  March 12, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    CALL HER MISS ROSS!!!

    http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/03/call-her-miss-ross.html

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  • 63. Zander  |  March 12, 2010 at 3:00 pm

    ^_^ This makes me happy!

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  • 64. Zander  |  March 12, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    erm, let me try that again…

    http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/03/new_orleans_hotelier_offers_to.html

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    • 65. John  |  March 12, 2010 at 3:07 pm

      Awesome. If I were wearing a hat, I’d tip it to him.

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    • 66. fiona64  |  March 12, 2010 at 3:14 pm

      That is *awesome.* Offering transportation and the prom for free is wonderful!

      Ronnie, will you still make the prom outfits if the kids go to NOLA?

      Love,
      Fiona

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      • 67. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 3:23 pm

        @fiona64……most definitely….If I can get in contact with them….I would be honored too…..<3…Ronnie

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      • 68. fiona64  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:10 pm

        I’ll bet you could write to the ACLU and make your offer, since they are representing Ms. McMillen.

        http://www.aclu.org/blog/project/lgbt-rights

        You rock, Ronnie.

        Okay, all of you P8TT friends and family rock. I’m just sayin’ …

        Love,
        Fiona

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      • 69. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:23 pm

        I did that this morning fiona64…Hopefully they contact me and let me know….<3…Ronnie

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      • 70. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:34 pm

        Fiona, I for one knew exactly what you meant. And I am waiting on word from Kate Kendall at NCLR about it also.

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    • 71. Straight Dave  |  March 12, 2010 at 6:09 pm

      Just freakin awsome news! Made my day/week/month. It’s such a rush when the good guys win. I hope Constance is voted prom queen.

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      • 72. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 6:18 pm

        Why not Prom King and her girlfriend Prom Queen?…..gender roles are soooooooo passe……<3….Ronnie

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      • 73. Straight Dave  |  March 12, 2010 at 6:34 pm

        No No NO, Ronnie! You’re missing the whole point. Have we gotten nowhere?
        What the hell is wrong with Queen and Queen? Why does there always have to be a King?
        Goddamn Hatero bigot!

        <3 Dave

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      • 74. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  March 12, 2010 at 6:38 pm

        Or perhaps Prom King and Prom King! That would really show them! Of course, I already think that Candace and her girlfriend are royalty anyway. They are standing up and fighting for what they believe in. And you know what? That makes all of my Prop 8 Trial Tracker family royalty too! I salute you, Your Royal Majesties!

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      • 75. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 6:50 pm

        Because S.D. maybe she thinks of herself as a King…i don’t know her personally so I can’t say what she would want…..but like I said gender roles are soooooo passe…..the titles can stay the same….its who can fill those titles that has changed….I hope that last sentence was not meant to be aimed at me?…..<3…Ronnie

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      • 76. Kathleen  |  March 12, 2010 at 6:56 pm

        @Ronnie, if you’re referring to Straight Dave’s comment. I think that was meant to be tongue-in-cheek.

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      • 77. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:07 pm

        Thats what I’m thinking….but ever since I came up with the word Hatero….for me….It has almost become a no no word….Hatero has almost become viral….somebody on another website used it….and I was like…”where’d you hear that?!….He said he saw it on a nyt thread from someone who used it an aol article from some chick who saw it on twitter from someone who saw it on FB from someone who saw it on here…..then I was like I started that word….and he was like oh shite(my word) you’re Ronnie….ummmm…I’M FAMOUS!!!!!!!!!!!……….world domination betches…..<3…Ronnie

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      • 78. Straight Dave  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:33 pm

        @Ronnie
        The whole thing was tongue-in-cheek…. and props to you Ronnie. I stole your “Hatero” and your <3. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. You may notice I never make use of those trademarked symbols. I agree with them, but don't feel comfortable using them. I figured that the extreme departure from my conventional style would be a clue that it was all just a parody.

        I was being you, not to make fun but to use your techniques to point out the deeply embedded thought processes that leads even a gay man to inadvertently expect there to be a male-female pair.

        Sorry if it rattled you.

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      • 79. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 7:43 pm

        It’s all good SD….I’m over it….<3…Ronnie

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      • 80. Straight Ally #3008  |  March 12, 2010 at 8:05 pm

        I think Johnny Weir should make a special guest appearance at the prom, maybe have a dance to Lady GaGa with Constance. That’d really make some heads explode amongst the hateros (© Ronnie Mc) ;-D

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      • 81. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 8:21 pm

        lol…trademark…..hehehe….anywho…Johnny Weir did say he would like to plan a skate tour including musicians…Lady GaGa being one of them…..

        speaking of Lady GaGa…..I just bought her new movie-music video on iTunes for “Telephone” with Beyonce……The House of GaGa totally dolled out Beyonce….its frikin awesome…..<3…Ronnie

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  • 82. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    I just sent a message to Rachel Maddow about Prop8 and questioned why there had been no coverage of the trial of century on her show – I will wait now for a response. <3 David

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    • 83. Straight Ally #3008  |  March 12, 2010 at 8:08 pm

      David, I think this counts: ;-)

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  • 84. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    I hope this doesn’t bother anyone, but I just found this video and thought it was so funny, I had to share it! <3 David

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    • 85. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:24 pm

      bwaaaaa…I’m seen this video….<3…Ronnie

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      • 86. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:26 pm

        sorry…typo….. I’ve seen this video….that’s how funny it is….I can’t type because just remembering it made ROTFL…..hehehe…<3…Ronnie

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    • 87. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:37 pm

      I ♥ ♥ ♥ it! Thanks, David, for my belly laugh of the day!

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  • 88. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:39 pm

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    • 89. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:40 pm

      Since we are talking about love, I thought this video would be appropriate – Vince Gill has the voice of an angel and Dolly ain’t bad either. <3 David

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    • 90. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:59 pm

      And Dolly is one of our Allies in Nashville!

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  • 91. David Kimble  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    This is the last one, I promise – I guess I caught the “music gene” (chuckles) <3 David

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    • 92. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  March 12, 2010 at 4:59 pm

      I for one don’t see any problem with it.

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  • 94. Kathleen  |  March 12, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    @Dieter – that article about the Texas Board of Ed is scary. And it’s more than just the kids in Texas effected by this. Because Texas is one of the largest purchasers of textbooks, it has an impact on what the publishers make available to everyone throughout the country.

    Must admit, I don’t really see what the problem is with this one provision — that the standards will describe the U.S. government as a “constitutional republic,” rather than “democratic,” Aren’t we a constitutional republic?

    But that aside, my first thought when I read this earlier today was: Do you think Texas could be persuaded to secede from the union, if we asked really, really nicely?

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    • 95. Ronnie  |  March 12, 2010 at 6:44 pm

      Those stupid books will not effect the schools in my hometown….the teachers don’t use them…..especially my high school history teacher….she knows the text book word for word…and then would be like I know your reading that but honestly those books are hogwash….lol…..she taught about stonewall and civil rights and the irish in NY….she was so cool….no tests either….<3…Ronnie

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      • 96. Sheryl  |  March 13, 2010 at 12:17 am

        Everyone should have teachers like that, Ronnie.

        Sheryl B

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    • 97. Kathleen  |  March 13, 2010 at 12:36 am

      The more I’ve thought about this and read about the specifics of the decisions, I just can’t help but be reminded of the Taliban.

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  • 98. sonofsancho  |  March 13, 2010 at 2:41 am

    Ah, I should point out that the new Mexico City law applies only to residents of the city. Dozens of gay and lesbian partners have been turned down since yesterday since they don’t have the right proof of residency. Yes, in theory, residents of Mexico City can get married and their marriage would have to be recognized in the other states (we don’t have a DOMA equivalent over here in Mexico) if they decide to move out of the capital and go to, lets say, Baja California or Yucatan.

    But, as you can see, the states governed by the conservative PAN party (sadly, my one state of Baja California is one of them, despite Tijuana being one of the most liberal cities in the country) are doing their best to “protect” themselves from having to respect the Federal District’s new law.

    Two weeks ago, one of the Supreme Courts justices through out the law suits by each of the states, and said that they were without basis, and that they don’t have the right to proclaim the unconstitutionality of another states law (Mexico City, which is a Federal District that has about the same self governing rights of a state).

    The bad news, is that the conservative states are now going for a second try at this, and this time, the justice is a anti abortion and rather conservative judge, even though nobody knows what his stance on social issues, like gay rights, is. But, it does worry the gay community.

    That being so, that would only mean that their case has been admitted for review, and does not mean that gay marriages would have to stop. In México, the Supreme Court will have to rule against the Mexico City gay marriage law by a super majority, and most legal experts say that is very unlikely, because, while there some conservative supreme court justices on the bench, most of the court tends to be progressive on social issues. It gave the green light for transexuals to have the right to change their name and sex identity in official forms, for example, and has already ruled in favor a letting Mexico City legalize abortions.

    So, hope is alive and well. There will no doubt be ferocious blow back from the Christian and Catholic conservative movements around the country, like there was with abortion. After abortion was legalized in MC, 17 other states have PENALIZED abortion even further, and some truly disgusting stories have come out of those states, of women being imprisoned for having simple miscarriages, like the one case in Quintana Roo (the state were Cancun is).

    We hope that it would not be an entirely equal reaction tough. Unlike abortion, gay rights are almost unanimously gaining traction worldwide and in Mexico too, and as you all know, the dynamics are different. As I said, every other state that is NOT of the PAN party, has remained neutral and some are considering gay marriage legislation of their own.

    Thanks for reading!

    Saludos from Tijuana, Mexico!

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    • 99. David Kimble  |  March 13, 2010 at 7:28 am

      Thanx for the story on Mexico, sonofsancho! I found it enlightening and encouraging, as well. Still, as you point out, we have many more bridges to cross to acheive full equality. <3 David

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  • 100. jimig  |  March 13, 2010 at 6:52 am

    News update, for those of you in the central valley in California. It looks like Lt. Dan is going to be at UC Merced, I am waiting for time and date info but he is definately speaking.

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    • 101. David Kimble  |  March 13, 2010 at 7:30 am

      Great, jimig – is there any possibility you can get any footage of him speaking? I am too afar away to travel there, but would really appreciate anything you could share with us on this event! <3 David

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  • 102. jimig  |  March 14, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Hi David, I am not sure of the details yet I hope to know Monday morning.

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