Apparently, Intimidation Works

April 9, 2010 at 8:58 am 96 comments

by Brian Leubitz

At Tarleton State‘s theater department, the drama hasn’t all been on the stage. To summarize the story, a student at the university wanted to produce Corpus Christi. If you’ve not heard of the play, which I hadn’t it, it is a Terrence McNally one-act that features a gay Jesus performing a same-sex marriage. Now, I grew up in Dallas, and Tarleton State isn’t that far away, and I can tell you, such a production is pretty much destined to create a controversy. Tarleton isn’t a religious institution per se, but it’s a fairly conservative agricultural school.

So, when I first heard of the story of Tarleton canceling the planned production of the play, I wasn’t all that surprised. However, I was impressed with the growing creative class in Fort Worth when I read that the Rose Marine Theater was going to house the play:

A student-directed play with a gay Jesus character that was canceled at Tarleton State University after the school received threatening e-mails will be performed in Fort Worth.

The Rose Marine Theater on North Main Street has agreed to host Corpus Christi, said Adam Adolfo, executive director of Artes de la Rosa, which manages the theater. Although the theater is not endorsing the play’s content, Adolfo said, it wants to provide a safe place for the performance.

“While there will always be critics and there will always be naysayers and detractors, I think what I am most hopeful is to find a sense of support,” Adolfo said. “This was a student activity. Beyond that, this was a classroom activity. This isn’t about homosexuality. This is not about spirituality. And it certainly is not about organized religion. This is about a student’s education.”

John Jordan Otte, the Tarleton student who directs the play , said it will likely be performed at the end of May when classes end. He said he has received other offers from theaters that he is considering. (Fort Worth Star-Telegram)

So, yay, right? Everybody can go on smiling. Sure, Tarleton State is a bit of a downer, but Fort Worth is a city on the move. Well, hold your horses, because, here’s the follow-up from this morning.

Reversing an earlier decision, a Fort Worth theater says it will not host a student-directed play about a gay Christ figure. … Adam Adolfo, executive director of Artes de la Rosa, told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram that a “violent” threat had been posted on the theater’s Facebook page. He said there were also concerns about “fiscal repercussions and patronage.”

“The board of directors felt at this time that this was not the appropriate venue or appropriate organization to be hosting this particular play,” he told the Star-Telegram. (Dallas Morning News)

Well, isn’t that lovely. Some jerk goes on Facebook and makes a threat, and things get turned around. First, that guy should be arrested if the threats were at all credible. That is why we have a police force. As for the fiscal repurcussions, you can understand the position of the theater. In Fort Worth, this is a risky step. But, I think that they have more to lose, at this point, by not following through.

I’ll put it down right now, right here. I’ve got $25 for the theater that lets Otte put this play on in Fort Worth. And I think I won’t be the only one. We need to support institutions that do the right thing, and give them the carrot. As for the Tarleton State theater department, well, there’s got to be a stick around here somewhere.

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  • 1. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 9, 2010 at 9:03 am

    Okay, folks. Here’s our chance to get the Equality Rides on the move. Let’s go to Tarleton State and also to Fort Worth. YOu all know the FB site: Let’s All Unnite for Equality and Ride to Washington DC at One Time. Let’s use this one as a practice run!

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  • 2. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 9, 2010 at 9:04 am

    Forgot to subscribe

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  • 3. Lenny  |  April 9, 2010 at 9:26 am

    Brian, why don’t you call the theatre and see how much we’d need to raise to get them to put on the play? Then we can do a little pledge drive and raise the money and make a story out of it.

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    • 4. Sarah  |  April 9, 2010 at 9:39 am

      Unfortunately it’s probably more of a long term thing. Like if they put on the play, the crusty folks who sponsor them will get their Depends in a twist and not support any of their later productions.

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  • 5. GAYGUY  |  April 9, 2010 at 9:32 am

    Why don’t people understand…if you don’t like the content of the play…DON’T GO SEE IT!!!! Just like us wacky and crazy liberals…if we don’t want to watch a televangelist either on TV or in a HUGE tent…we don’t watch or don’t go…WHY are the religious zeolots NOT able to do that? NOONE forces them to see anything they don’t want….why can’t they let those that WANT to see this play…WATCH it!

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  • 6. Lesbians Love Boies  |  April 9, 2010 at 9:39 am

    Off Topic… With Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens retiring now, what might that mean to this case? Would he have been against or for SSM?

    High court: Justice Stevens to retire
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/09/john.paul.stevens.retires/index.html?hpt=T1

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    • 7. Brian Leubitz  |  April 9, 2010 at 10:16 am

      It’s a good question, and I’ll be writing something up about that very question for tomorrow. That being said, without a nominee, there are far more questions than answers.

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      • 8. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 11:33 am

        there have been running news reports talking in detail about the first 3 possible replacements for Stevens for a few weeks now.
        I posted something about the 3 first choices about a week ago…seems the top 3 choices, are way further right than Stevens ever was. Obama appears to have made it clear to his insiders that at this point before an election, he doesnt want to piss off any right wingers. So essentially we are going to give away a seat on SCOTUS to appease the nutbags, and they are not going to change a thing about the way they vote. Obama is weak and selling out again. say goodbye to ANYTHING within sight of any liberal decisions for decades to come.

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      • 9. Monty  |  April 9, 2010 at 1:56 pm

        Bipartisanship isn’t going to work when the Republicans are determined to oppose anything the Democrats put forth. They should know that by now. Like health care – Republicans like to point out that even Democrats opposed it, but most Democrats I know who opposed it did so because they thought it didn’t go far enough. If they had just tried to push though a real bill in the first place instead of trying (and failing utterly) to appease Republicans, maybe we’d be better off.

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  • 10. Brandy  |  April 9, 2010 at 9:44 am

    Im pretty angry about this news. Probably moreso than with the Constance news. We expect petty highschool BS but WTF!
    Who the crap runs a theatre like that? What an insult to theatre. Have some guts and take some chances.. stop ruining a classic art form.
    That settles it.. religion has brought nothing but destruction and cowardice to this world.

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  • 11. Brandy  |  April 9, 2010 at 9:46 am

    We absolutly should NOT support that theatre or the spineless cowards that run it.. They need to go out of business and get out of the theatre world.

    so… angry!!!! RAWRZ!!!!

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    • 12. fiona64  |  April 9, 2010 at 10:18 am

      Or we could take the tack of NOT behaving like the people who are against our work and help the theatre mount a play that they OBVIOUSLY want to do. They are clearly concerned about losing their community backing; no theatre is a profit-making concern these days. So, we could help them put on the show without the $$ from the bigots.

      They are afraid for their students — a violent threat has been made, and with the atmosphere of hate against gay people, they are taking it seriously. I totally grok that (for those under the age of 30, I recommend reading Robert Heinlein’s “Stranger in a Strange Land” to learn about grokking things …).-

      I know that this is frustrating, okay? There are a lot of gay people in the theatre world, and putting another venue out of business because you’re pissed off about this instead of figuring out a way to help them make it happen just hurts the theatre community as a whole. :-(

      Love,
      Fiona

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      • 13. Brandy  |  April 9, 2010 at 10:04 pm

        You are assuming a bit much about my stance on all this.. and far too much about my actions.
        I’m coming at this from the perspective of someone who is against the arts for cash.. it’s just DURTY!

        Sacrifice makes for better art

        I would never condemn and boycott a place for holding religious ceremonies, art, crazy rants… if i did.. THEN you can call me out as “behaving like the people who are against our work.”

        But… I’m with you totally about us queers that get so defensive and angry that it actually hurts our cause.. some times we should just shaddup and listen to the crazies in order to earn some time on their stage/ the chance to speak to them.

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  • 14. Don in Texas  |  April 9, 2010 at 10:54 am

    @6. There’s little doubt that Justice Stevens would have held for the plaintiffs in Perry v. Schwarzenegger. The left side of the Court probably will uphold the equal protection and due process clauses of the 14th amendment. The right side probably will say hands off the decision of the California voters who enacted Prop8, the 14th amendment notwithstanding.

    The real battle will be whether Justice Kennedy (who wrote the majority opinions in Lawrence v. Texas and Romer v. Evans) can be persuaded to join Breyer, Ginsburg, Sotomayor and Stevens (or his replacement on the Court.)

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  • 15. Melissa  |  April 9, 2010 at 11:16 am

    This play is another example of homosexuals throwing their gayness in the faces of others. Then they wonder why people push back and ask why people can’t just leave them alone. No sympathy for yet another attention seeker.

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    • 16. rf  |  April 9, 2010 at 11:30 am

      I know! Remember when the negros used to know their place? I mean, they’re welcome to live here as long as I don’t have to see them. Those were the good old days. Now fix me a Tom Collins and vacuum the den before I smack you.

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      • 17. PamC  |  April 10, 2010 at 6:33 am

        {{{fanned!}}}

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    • 18. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 11:36 am

      lol..so I guess its only OK for every theatre program in the land to put on shows pre-approved by people who don’t go to the theatre to begin with right?. You are the stupidest c*nt on this planet you witch.

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    • 19. Billy  |  April 9, 2010 at 11:38 am

      Melissa, if you consider this us “throwing their gayness in the faces of others”, then might I direct you to any number of movies and plays featuring heterosexual couples that get married, then you tell me: who is throwing their sexuality in whose face?

      There is this thing called “straight privilege”. I suggest you look it up.

      No, no. I’ll save you the trouble.

      http://www.cs.earlham.edu/~hyrax/personal/files/student_res/straightprivilege.htm

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    • 20. Ronnie  |  April 9, 2010 at 12:47 pm

      Congratulations Melissa…..you have officially become Hitler…..People in America are only free to live how you want them too live….

      and now when a hatero anti-gay ant-american church business school or person gets vandalized and spray painted with your name on it….you will know why….

      I warned you bitch that every time you post an anti-gay anti-american comment that you are holding somebody’s freedom and/or life in your hand….I guess you want to be responsible for that….Can you carry the guilt of being the one who brings about a Holy Civil War II in this country….oh wait that is the job of the Whore of Babylon….

      How is that attention seeking for you god damn nazi fucking cunt whore of Babylon bitch slut….would you like us to hunt you down and hang you like the witch you are?…..all it takes is one I.T. tech and a private investigator…..you really should fear for your freedom….after all…if you continue to take ours away….we will have nothing to lose….you might want to think about slut……<3….Ronnie

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      • 21. J. Stone  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:12 pm

        Way over the line, Ronnie.
        I agree that Melissa in entirely wrong on this issue. That said, you need to CALM DOWN. Threats of violence and intimidation is the very topic of this thread, and you’re going to engage in them yourself? Get a grip.

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      • 22. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:13 pm

        LOL..are you surprised?..There is at least one of this identical rant in every post on here…LOL

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      • 23. Ronnie  |  April 9, 2010 at 4:53 pm

        pot meet straight jacket (I mean kettle)……<3…Ronnie

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    • 24. fiona64  |  April 9, 2010 at 12:53 pm

      This is for you, Melissa:

      http://www.usps.com/household/stampcollecting/welcome.htm

      Love,
      Fiona

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      • 25. PamC  |  April 9, 2010 at 1:58 pm

        @fiona–rotflmao!
        Thank you for my best smile all day!

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      • 26. fiona64  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:19 pm

        You’re welcome, PamC.

        I suggested yesterday that Melissa take up stamp collecting instead of harassing GLBT sites, but I could only surmise that she didn’t know where to begin.

        I’m always happy to help. :-)

        Love,
        Fiona

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      • 27. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:20 pm

        Beginner’s Stamp Collecting kit–$19.95 plus Shipping and Handling
        Album with slots for stamps in kit (purchased at Michael’s)–$24.95 plus local sales tax
        Seeing the shock on Melissa’s face when she receives her shipments from a gay postal carrier–PRICELESS!

        @fiona: after the laughs you just gave me with this one, I just could NOT resist!

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    • 28. PamC  |  April 9, 2010 at 1:56 pm

      Melissa, no one here is throwing our gayness in your face; you are throwing your straightness in our faces! Without an invitation!

      If this stuff bothers you so much, why subject yourself to it? Don’t visit this site if you are so offended.

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    • 29. Monty  |  April 9, 2010 at 1:59 pm

      Putting on a play about gay people? Oh, the horror! And then they went and tried to broadcast it to every household in the country. Oh wait, no they didn’t. Nobody is forcing anyone to go see it. Don’t like gay plays? Then don’t watch one and shut up.

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    • 30. biff  |  April 9, 2010 at 2:10 pm

      dear melissa, i rarely throw my “gayness” into the faces of straight people….unless i am throwing a flawless dinner party, coordinating a fashion show or fundraiser, or possibally antique shopping. inspite of being deluged on a daily basis by heterosexual images, laws and the occasional hateful comment, i keep pretty much to myself, insulated by my own little crowd of creative gay and straight people, this means i never “troll” websites” …..I would ask YOU, who is it seeking attention? ….have a nice day melissa xoxo

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      • 31. Billy  |  April 9, 2010 at 2:15 pm

        We should go antiquing next weekend <3

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    • 32. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 9, 2010 at 2:56 pm

      And Melissa, what about the women who came before YOU who laid their very lives on the line, and got in people’s faces so that you would have the right to vote, so that you would have the right to own propeerty, so that you would have the rigt to earn money by having a job and be able to decide what you want to do with that money, so that you would have the right to do as you want to, so that you would have your full human and civilrights as guaranteed under the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution?
      Oh, I am so sorry, those rightws only apply to the narrow-minded straigt people who are so threatened when someone else is given their rightful place as first class citizens, instead of those uppity blacks and those uppity gays staying in th dark and out of sight, out of mind.
      Reallyl, girlfriend, you need to grow up, get a life, and get over yourself!

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    • 33. Ray in MA  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:11 pm

      Come on people, she just throws her sh*t out at you and she* sit back and laughs at all your responses. Rarely, if ever replies.

      This is what is called a TROLL.

      Just ignore them, you are facilitating them by replying.

      *she may not even be a her… could even be part of a disguise of someone from NOM or the like. I’ve seen this many time before.

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      • 34. fiona64  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:20 pm

        I suspect Melissa is a student at Itawamba Agricultural High School whose parents are not adequately supervising her internet use. :-)

        Love,
        Fiona

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      • 35. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:34 pm

        Or HIS internet use, fiona? Remember “Kay Moore” whom we exposed as a teenage male based on the content of his/her posts?

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      • 36. fiona64  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:58 pm

        @Richard … well, there is that …

        Love,
        Fiona

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  • 37. Jo Jo  |  April 9, 2010 at 11:28 am

    @ Melissa no one is forcing you to go and watch its called a choice……. no one if forcing anything on anyone.

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  • 38. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 11:40 am

    The mega-church that sits next to my house with hundreds of parking spaces, and a seperate building that housed a teen church nightclub was just foreclosed on and kicked out of my neighborhood this week for not paying their rent. I will now actively seeking means to PRODUCE this play at this venue. How perfect. It is HUGE…plenty of parking…….
    and it is here in Sacramento.

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  • 39. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 11:40 am

    so there!

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    • 40. Billy  |  April 9, 2010 at 11:52 am

      Go for it!

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  • 41. Billy  |  April 9, 2010 at 11:55 am

    OT

    sitting here in the waiting room @ the hospital waiting for my mom to get out of surgery. Wish her luck everyone.

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    • 42. Lesbians Love Boies  |  April 9, 2010 at 12:06 pm

      Good Luck Billy’s Mom.

      Hang in there Billy…we are all thinking about you both.

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    • 43. fiona64  |  April 9, 2010 at 12:54 pm

      Thoughts are with you and your mom, Billy. Keep us posted.

      Love,
      Fiona

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    • 44. Billy  |  April 9, 2010 at 5:22 pm

      Thanks everyone. She got out of surgery and is recovering.

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  • 46. Carvel  |  April 9, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    Perhaps what we need to do is to have gay activitists picket all the religious plays and to post death threats on the internet and sign them from Islamic fundamental terrorists and see if that stops the religious plays. Where are all the rich gay activitists who want freedom of speech and not the right wingers who only want freedom of speech when you want to say something about God, Mom and apple pie. I am so tired of this double standard. They claim we threaten tehm and we get bad publicity. They openly threaten us and we get cancelled. I like thos fair dealings.

    they claim that we are throwing our queerness in their faces, when they are throwing their straightness at us and then threatening us with great bodily harm. It is absurd to think that a theatre cancells a play because of controversy. Let fore the cancellation of the next dozen plays that they schedule. This is nothing but the modern day hanging tree that they used to intimidate the blacks in the South not all to many years ago.

    When will the courts learn that unless the law says that there is equality, then we just pushed not to the back of the bus, but get pushed off the moving buss in heavy traffic. Why is it that the only people with real balls seem to be gay. Where are the large group of Blacks and Straight people standing up for civil rights for everyone. It is a sad state of affairs when your ONLY LINE OF DEFENSE IS A COURT DECISION. And we have yet to get that court decision. God help us because according to the churches they have God sewed up too. they spoke to him just last week and according to him, he is against us too. I think he was eating shellfish and wearing wool and cotton at the same time while he said that too. Take care.

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  • 47. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    If I were Constance I would much rather attend THIS prom then the one that all those fatass dyed blonde heiffers threw for themselves.

    TUPELO, Miss. – Green Day, former ‘N Sync member Lance Bass and celebrity chef Cat Cora are among those helping to pay for a gay-friendly prom in Mississippi next month.

    Organizers say the event is open to everyone but geared toward gay students.

    The American Humanist Association also will contribute $20,000 for the May 8 event in Tupelo.

    The annual prom is organized by the Mississippi Safe Schools Coalition. This year’s event has drawn attention because of the case of Constance McMillen, a high school senior who challenged her school district’s rule banning same-sex dates at proms.

    Coalition spokesman Matthew Sheffield says plans for the event haven’t been completed. He says Bass, who is gay, is among the celebrities expected to attend.

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  • 48. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 1:38 pm

    Portugal’s highest court ruled on Thursday that the country’s proposed same-sex marriage law should be enacted, which leaves only the president’s signature as the last step before the bill becomes a law.

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  • 49. Kathleen  |  April 9, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    Just subscribing

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  • 50. Tim  |  April 9, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    I think these the threats against this Theatre and all threats against LGBT people( humans) should be noted and logged somewhere.And then when the hatero’s try to play the victim card as they did in this trial, because witnessess were afraid to testify due to the fact that LGBT people are a bunch of meanies, we can hit them back with the facts and see just who really is the victim here.
    I’m currently dealing with a paranoid straight guy right now that is telling my co-workers,friends and god knows who else that I’ve been hitting on him.He has been documented on calling me a F*#;!@g fag. Not only did I not hit on him, I never told him I was gay! Ever! I’m so sick of these nut jobs.Now I have to deal with the shit of 86ing him from my place of business.That is really going to piss him off because he will know I do not like him and that will hurt his feelings ( because he is most likely a huge closet case). I’m afraid of the retaliation.! I dont want to be another statistic. Arrrrrg!

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    • 51. Billy  |  April 9, 2010 at 2:13 pm

      I think on some level, we’ve all had to deal with this. When I was in high school back in 97, I had to deal with repeated bullying. And, it all started with the main bully getting a little too personal with a line of questioning. He was asking all sorts of questions concerning my private life, in graphic detail. The next day is when the bullying started.

      I had my life threatened, been spat on, followed home, pushed, hit, had girls call my house pretending to be a boy and hit on me (yeah that one was really weird). To me, it seems that the ones that inquire and harass the most are almost obsessively curious at first. The hate comes later when they fear they might be attracted to you. It is a giant mass of conflicted feelings that they supress with hate, because it garners praise from their peers (who probably have the same internal conflicts). It is a sick, sad cycle that feeds off itself until it spirals out of control (and you get something like WBC).

      This person you describe needs therapy. Bad. Stay far far away from this person whenever possible.

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      • 52. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:25 pm

        And when I was out on medical leave after having my wrist broken by a driver who was talking on her cell phone behind the wheel, I was given a ride home one evening by one of the managers at the Burger King I worked at. The entire way, she kept asking me what she would have to do in order to turn me straight. I reported it when it happened, and asked that she be tranferred to another unit within the franchise before I returned from medical leave, yet on my first day back, she was there, with the same questions any time she saw me. I had to get my lawyers involved in order to ge her transferred, and then thy still let her work on the BK Mart (convenience store/gas station) side of the store, often scheduling her on days I worked. That is what you call IN YOUR FACE and FORCING YOUR VIEWS on someone, Melissa!

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  • 53. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    I am wondering why every gay person in every city, town and state is not calling every single church with things like bomb and death threats. give em a taste of that old Christian medicine.

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    • 54. biff  |  April 9, 2010 at 2:20 pm

      because WE are above that…..as a whole I would like to think that the gay community is more enlightened than a base fraction of the straight-right-wing-“christian” community! xoxo

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      • 55. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 2:27 pm

        yeah cuz being nice has gotten us so far already right?..lol..

        are you going to go see the gay play?…oh wait you can’t because the gays keep crying and backing down every time someone makes a threat. well guess what..by backing down they win, and we lose…now they KNOW for a fact that all they have to do is make a threat and we cower in fear. I say fuck that..for every threat WE get.,.they get 5.
        let’s see who starts cowering then.

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      • 56. fiona64  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:23 pm

        “An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind.” – Mohandas K. Ghandi

        “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” — Mohandas K. Ghandi

        I’m just sayin’ …

        Love,
        Fiona

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    • 57. J. Stone  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:21 pm

      Dieter,
      I’ll tell you what I told Ronnie. Threats of violence and intimidation are wrong. PERIOD. I understand you’re upset, but you only hurt our cause when you advocate such behavior. The whole point of this thread was that threats and intimidation are reprehensible; we must not stoop to the level of those who oppose us.

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      • 58. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:26 pm

        Still waiting for your alternate plan. so far all we have done is run away crying …while saying “you are right” we should not perform a harmless play that offends you..even though you have no desire to see the play>”
        so we as weak gay people shall simply stick to being nice, and living like trolls under a bridge for the next thousand years until you are all ready to treat us nice.
        because it wouldn’t be right for us to treat you EXACTLY as you treat us as is REQUIRED in the bible you love to quote on a daily basis. yeah..we will just stay here in the shadows…because if we act like you do, then people may not like us…

        OH WAIT..they ALREADY don’t like us!!!!

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      • 59. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:31 pm

        If we really want to take action that will actually mean something, then how about everybody getting on the ball and going to Let’s All Unite for Equality and Ride to Washington DC at One Time? The page is on FB, and if you need any help with finding it, just friend me and I will send the link to you. The sooner we get the numbers up and get folks from all 50 states, the sooner we can organize everybody’s departure times based on your travel time to DC, so that we all arrive at the same time, or within moments of each other. And all of us need to be there in the clothes we wear to work everyday, so that they see we are not that different from them. Let them see us all gathered together in one spot at one time, in our work clothes, and they will have to admit that we are the same as they are, that we work and pay taxes, that we are human, that we have the same concerns about protecting our families that they have, and that our taxes should not be higher than theirs, that our protections should be the same as theirs, and then we will gain more and gain it faster. That is what the Freedom Rides did in the 60’s. It put too many faces on the discrimination issue to allow it to be ignored and put on the back burner. If we want the same results, within the same amount of time, we need to use the same tactics. We need to band together and get this done, and we need to get it done now!

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      • 60. fiona64  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:31 pm

        Dieter, it wasn’t “you don’t like the play so we won’t do it.” It was a CREDIBLE THREAT OF VIOLENCE. They are trying to protect their actors and their facility, no doubt due to insurance liability. I don’t like it any more than you do, but I can at least understand why they took the tack they did.

        Gah.

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      • 61. J. Stone  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:34 pm

        Organizing to try to get the play opened in another venue in the same community, or contacting the original venue with offers of backing if they reverse themselves again and go forward with the play, is about all we can do.

        When we react violently or inappropriately to the provocations of others, we give ammunition to those who would demonize us.

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      • 62. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:39 pm

        Fiona, no disrespect but that is the stupidest train of thought ever. we have police for a reason…
        so what you are saying is that we have lost every battle already, because according to you, all anyone has to do is make a threat, and we should just give up. let them make threats… like I said we have police..we have bomb sniffing dogs, and a lot of us have guns and are MORE than willing to use them. let’s see which of them wants to risk guessing which of us is armed…or who wants to risk going to jail for life over trying to stop a play.
        gimme a break. according to your logic we should just stop fighting altogether and just give up. because now they know that people like you are scared to death of empty threats..and they are laughing all the way to church….oohh look we made a threat and the silly gays ran away just like we knew they would..LOL…so now every place that EVER wants to perform ANY play with a gay theme is going to get these threats…what should we do?..stop performing anything forever?

        nope..I am trying to get the play produced where I live. Let them threaten me…I will shoot to kill anyone who threatens my safety period. I bet after that I dont get any more threats.

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      • 63. fiona64  |  April 9, 2010 at 4:00 pm

        Dieter, I’ve long ago learned that when someone says “no disrespect, but …” the but will be followed by something disrespectful. And that’s just what happened. ::shrug::

        At no point did I say I agreed; I reiterated the reason. If it were me and my theater, I would no doubt go ahead and mount the play. I, however, am not the one in charge.

        I wholeheartedly concur that you should see about getting it produced in Sacramento. You may wish to enlist the aid of the Lambda Theatre Company. :-)

        Love,
        Fiona

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  • 64. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 2:24 pm

    Melissa:

    Let’s review.

    Jesus had long hair, wore a dress, turned water into wine,
    and his last supper was a dinner party with 12 dudes…
    Jesus was gay!!!!!

    CHRISTIANITY:
    The belief that an invisible Jewish guy in space will allow you to live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil spirit from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magic tree……

    but 2 men loving each other would be too hard to believe….

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  • 66. Rightthingtodo TX  |  April 9, 2010 at 2:47 pm

    Bring the play to Austin. I know there’ll be theaters lining up to host the play.

    Melissa. pwned.

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  • 67. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 9, 2010 at 2:50 pm

    Again, I clicked subscribe, and nothing happened yet. What is going on here?

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  • 68. J. Stone  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    By the way, I’ve read McNally’s play, “Corpus Christi.” It was several years ago, but I remember being impressed with it. I’d definitely see it if I had the chance.

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  • 69. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:30 pm

    wow..those Christian right wing republicans are already starting their plan to begin a filibuster on Obama’s nomination to replace Justice Stevens..only one problem…
    HE HASN’T NOMINATED ANYONE YET!!!!

    I swear I am about a few clicks away from going postal
    I now take religion as a PERSONAL threat to my safety and well being.

    and I will protect myself accordingly.

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  • 70. Mark 'RikerBear'  |  April 9, 2010 at 3:56 pm

    Religion is NOT against gays and lesbians…Man’s interpretation of religion and the bible are.
    Let’s not confuse the two.
    It is possible to be religious and gay…I love God and I know he loves me too

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    • 71. Marius  |  April 9, 2010 at 4:41 pm

      lol, yha I allways found it funny that some of the first christian marriages was between two men=)
      Onely later did the roman Chatolic church start prosacating gays, then onely as a mean to get rid of the other christian religions that was a competition (like the catares)

      Love
      Marius

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      • 72. Marius  |  April 9, 2010 at 4:46 pm

        ops, sorry for the bad whighting=P

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      • 73. Marius  |  April 9, 2010 at 4:47 pm

        “whrigting”
        Sometings up whit my keybord=(

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    • 74. Santa Barbara Mom  |  April 9, 2010 at 9:58 pm

      YOU ARE 100% CORRECT, MARK. Thank you for sharing that. It would be uplifting and a positive addition to this site if you were to post that message on a daily basis.

      Reply
  • 75. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 9, 2010 at 4:34 pm

    This may bew considered OT, but a friend from my old high school invited me to a FB group “1,000,000 against WBC” I joined and sent out invitations. Let’s see how the shoe feels for them when its on the other foot. Those who are in my FB circle, help spread the word.

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  • 76. Ryan Martin  |  April 9, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    I just moved back to San Antonio, Texas (from San Diego, CA.) after an eight year tour in the U.S. Navy/ U.S. Marine Corps!! Texas is still as unevolved as when I first left it eight years ago!! My husband and myself will pay $100.00 per ticket to see this play. Furthermore, I’ll invite a few of my queer military buddies to come help protect the theatre during showings. Nothing will change unless WE do something to change it!!!

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    • 77. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 9, 2010 at 4:42 pm

      Exactly. That is why we cannot be silent any longer. That is why we cannot return to the prisons called “the closets.” That is why we need to gather en masse for the Equality Rides. It is only when we get out in public and let them see the faces of the people they are discriminating against that we will get any action. And we need to do it every day, without letup.

      Reply
  • 78. Marius  |  April 9, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    I personaly think everyone of us should go on the theaters fb page and whright that they are suporting the play
    Love
    Marius

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    • 79. fiona64  |  April 9, 2010 at 4:56 pm

      Marius, that is an OUTSTANDING idea.

      Love,
      Fiona

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  • 80. Bolt  |  April 9, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Sorry progressive christianists, but christianity is stupid!

    Reply
  • 81. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    FRIENDS and FAMILIES of gay people have been evicted form their church for “knowing a gay man” and letting him speak.
    The church did not even tell them in person. They evicted them through e-mail.

    I hope every bigoted church in this nation gets torched to the ground.

    Gay Group Forced to Leave Church

    By Kenneth Harvey

    A church support group for parents of gays and lesbians was asked to abandon its regular meeting place when church officials discovered the group scheduled a gay man to speak at an upcoming meeting about life with his partner.

    Always Our Children met monthly at St. Pius X Parish in Billings, Mont., until they scheduled an engagement with sportswriter and author Bill Konigsberg. Konigsberg was scheduled to speak this week, but the church cancelled the engagement and evicted the group one week prior to the event, the Billings Gazette reported.

    “We were told we could not have it there because of the mention of Chuck being Bill’s partner, and that it promoted and condoned same-sex marriage,” group spokeswoman Debbie Schenk said.

    The group was notified of the cancellation in an e-mail, from Bishop Michael Warfel, the head of the Diocese of Great Falls-Billings, and was a result of an article in the Billings Gazette, previewing the talk.

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  • 82. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    To quote Palin:

    Don’t run away…RELOAD!!!

    You hear that church people?

    I currently have a very large yard sign displayed on my front lawn which reads:

    “Any religious person or persons affiliated with any church who trespasses upon this property shall be deemed a threat to my personal safety, and will be handled accordingly.”
    Owner is armed.

    I have not had a single bible thumper bangin on my door for months!

    My next door neighbor is a sheriff and tells me There is nothing illegal about my sign.

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  • 83. David Kimble  |  April 9, 2010 at 6:00 pm


    Thought we needed a song about love! <3 David

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  • 84. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 9, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Just to let you know: The folks back home in West Virginia did not give the cultists of WBC an easy time of it.http://www.wvgazette.com/News/201004090498?page=2&build=cache

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  • 85. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 9, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Let me try the link again
    http://www.wvgazette.com/News/201004090498

    Reply
  • 86. Dieter  |  April 9, 2010 at 11:16 pm

    Gay Republican to Announce Potential Run
    for President on Saturday, April 10th
    at 11:00 am at SRLC

    (NEW ORLEANS, LA) Fred Who? It’s longtime Republican political consultant, turned national gay activist, Fred Karger. He will hold a press conference to announce that he is “seriously considering becoming a candidate for President of the United States in 2012 as an Independent Republican.”

    11:00 am on Saturday, April 10, 2010
    Marlborough Room B
    Hilton New Orleans Riverside,
    2 Poydras Street, New Orleans

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  • 88. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 1:29 am

    The President of Poland and his wife have been killed in a plane crash Over Russia.

    No details yet.

    Reply
  • 89. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 1:32 am

    Gold digger is taking advantage of our Friend Elizabeth Taylor:

    Elizabeth Taylor is preparing to wed for the ninth time.

    The serial wife and screen icon, 78, recently became engaged to 49-year-old Jason Winters of Sterling Winters Management, according to a report from Us Magazine.

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    • 90. biff  |  April 10, 2010 at 5:20 am

      dieter, i wouldn’t worry about ms liz too much…..1. i’m sure she has her money locked down tighter than a mormon’s place in heaven. 2. at this point in her life she’s just marrying for companionship…..why she thinks that’s necessary? not sure, but, at least she has the freedom to do so! my best wishes go out to her……

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  • 91. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 10, 2010 at 6:43 am

    They found the four missing miners. Now Massey Energy and the CEO, Don Blankenship, have 29 murders on their hands.

    Reply
  • 92. David Kimble  |  April 10, 2010 at 7:02 am

    http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=On+the+Planet+Parador&x=18&y=20
    My book is now available on amazon.com – here’s a link for everyone! <3 David

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    • 93. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 10, 2010 at 7:17 am

      MAZEL TOV!
      ♥ ♥ ♥

      Reply
    • 94. Carvel  |  April 13, 2010 at 4:00 am

      Well, I don’t have a link, but my book has been available on Amazon.com for the last year. It is a science fiction gay adult love story called the Space Adventure of Alex. It is just a hard core scienfictions gay sex love story. I wrote it under a pen name. Try reading it. Take care.

      Reply
  • 95. truthspew  |  April 10, 2010 at 9:15 am

    No Christ theme but last night I saw a stage reading of Andre Thompson’s My Penis: An Exhibition at Brown University.

    I imagine the religious bigots would be up in arms about full male nudity too.

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  • 96. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    O.K. People:
    In my town’s Newspaper the Sacramento Bee,
    they are running a story online about the death of Poland’s president dying.
    I submitted a comment stating that It was not tragic news for me as a gay man since he was a homophobic person in life who stated publicly that gays should be eliminated because they would be the cause of the end of humanity and the world.
    My comment was deleted, and when I asked why, I received the following response from the Bee:
    Your comment was deleted because it was making a moral statement against an individual.

    WOW!!! so saying I am part of a disgusting group of people who is going to cause the end of humanity is OK with the BEE. but my stating that he was anti-gay, is NOT acceptable because it passes judgemen?..WTF? WTF?

    Reply

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