On Ronald Reagan Day, I’ll Be Wearing A Red Ribbon

April 10, 2010 at 8:00 am 99 comments

Ronald Reagan was certainly a memorable person in California history. Not memorable in the Cesar Chavez, Harvey Milk kind of way, but more in a distinctively heartless way.  That being said, it looks increasingly likely he will join Milk and Chavez with recognition.

California moved one step closer today to establishing an annual day honoring Ronald Reagan, the former president, governor and actor.

The state Senate unanimously passed a bill designating Feb. 6 as Ronald Reagan Day. The measure encourages schools to spend the day commemorating Reagan’s life and accomplishments. (AP)

Reagan, despite my political differences with him, is a major historical figure. And, on occasion, such as when he signed a letter opposing the Briggs initiative, he went out of his way to do the right thing.  But if we are going to teach about Reagan’s legacy, Allen White‘s words must be heeded:

Reagan could have chosen to end the homophobic rhetoric that flowed from so many in his administration. Dr. C. Everett Koop, Reagan’s surgeon general, has said that because of “intradepartmental politics” he was cut out of all AIDS discussions for the first five years of the Reagan administration. The reason, he explained, was “because transmission of AIDS was understood to be primarily in the homosexual population and in those who abused intravenous drugs.” The president’s advisers, Koop said, “took the stand, ‘They are only getting what they justly deserve.’ ”

How profoundly different might have been the outcome if his leadership had generated compassion rather than hostility. “In the history of the AIDS epidemic, President Reagan’s legacy is one of silence,” Michael Cover, former associate executive director for public affairs at Whitman-Walker Clinic, the groundbreaking AIDS health-care organization in Washington. in 2003. “It is the silence of tens of thousands who died alone and unacknowledged, stigmatized by our government under his administration.”

Revisionist history about Reagan must be rejected. Researchers, historians and AIDS experts who know the truth must not remain silent. Too many have died for that. (SF Chronicle Op-Ed)

So, sure, let’s teach Reagan’s legacy. But front and center of that legacy is the AIDS crisis. He stood by as millions died, including some of his supposed friends from his movie days. Reagan’s inaction directly led to many needless deaths. Teach about Ronald Reagan, if for no other reason that our students will never forget an American tragedy. A tragedy whose scope could have been dramatically changed by a rapid response, but was instead ignored because the victims weren’t favored classes.

And when our students ask about Reagan, sure, by all means, you can talk about how he spent the Russians into bankruptcy, or how he blatantly and illegally defied Congress, but what I’ll remember most about Ronald Reagan will be the action that he didn’t take. And his inaction speaks as much about the man Ronald Reagan as any action, or any myth the Right is trying to build up about him.

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  • 1. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  April 10, 2010 at 8:19 am

    My husband and I will also be wearing red ribbosn, but not just on Ronald Reagan day.

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  • 2. Billy  |  April 10, 2010 at 8:42 am

    Ewww… Can’t believe I have the same birthday as Reagan. D:

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    • 3. Kathleen  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:35 am

      When February 6 rolls ’round, I’ll think of it as “Billy Day” :)

      Glad to know you’re mom’s doing okay.

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      • 4. Billy  |  April 11, 2010 at 12:11 am

        Thanks :D

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  • 5. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 9:39 am

    Constance says she wants us all to knock it off!!

    http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/04/homoquotable-constance-mcmillen.html

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    • 6. Billy  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:10 am

      I think she’s concerned about the people cyberstalking anyone with IAHS in their profile and sending them hate mail. The people that post anti-gay taunts/slurs on Facebook are still free game, in my opinion.

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      • 7. Juli  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:58 am

        Or she’s being a grown-up and she’s right, no one will take our side if we spew hatred. She’s handled herself very well through this and we should follow her example.

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      • 8. Billy  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:09 am

        Unfortunately, Juli, I am a professional troll by nature. I blame years of Internet culture and the current political environment, mostly. While I will follow her request to respect other’s opinions, respect is earned. Either the majority of Fulton’s populace is trolling on an epic scale that could rival 4chan, or they are bible thumping hicks with the driving intellect of a Labrador Retriever. My money’s on the latter.

        Troll them all, and let Raptor Jesus sort them out, in my opinion.

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      • 9. Bob  |  April 10, 2010 at 1:44 pm

        awh Billy, could you leave Labrador Retreivers out of this equation, they are intelligent loving creatures, they don’t fit in that catagory at all. they are definetly not as bright, and capable of love as labradors.

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    • 10. Straight Grandmother  |  April 10, 2010 at 3:31 pm

      I think what is happening is Constance wants this to be over. By people sending e-mails to her classmates it continues, and makes it hard for her. The LGBT community is sending out hate mails to her classmates, calling them out for thier bigotry, and they in turn are coming down even harder on Constance. I kind of agree with Billy- “Troll them all, and let Raptor Jesus sort them out,”

      I look at it this way. Every single one of them except the special ed kids either knew about, or, knew about and went to the other prom, so if they put on Facebook that they go to that high school they are guilty as charged and fair game. Not one of them manned up and told Constance, not ONE. So if they are getting hate mails too bad. I sent e-mails to the Principal and Superintendent and they were simply, “Shame on YOu, Shame on You, Shame on You, repeated like 25 times.

      Oh the poor babies they can’t take pointed e-mails, well they should know what it is like to live in fear every day of getting kicked out of the military because you are gay, or loosing your teaching job because you are gay, and on and on and on. A few nasty e-mails heck that isn’t any where near the stress that LGBT people face practically every minute of every day. Although I did not send hate e-mails to High School students I cannot condem those who did, I just can’t. Those kids were REALLY MEAN! AND so was the school staff and so was the School board and so were the parents. They are jsut getting called out on their bigotry.

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  • 11. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 9:51 am

    So sad about Poland’s president being killen in a plane wreck…..
    Oh wait. Mr. Prez of Poland was considered to be the most ANTI-GAY leader in all of EU.

    What airline was he on?..I simply MUST send a thank you note.

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    • 12. Joel  |  April 10, 2010 at 6:20 pm

      Please remember that more than a hundred others died in that accident. Do you really want to be known as someone who delights in the deaths of others? Where is your compassion? Your sentiments are no better than those who hate gay people and cheer when they die of AIDS. Shame on you!

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      • 13. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 6:59 pm

        I will not apologize..LOL..I have NO compassion for a man and wife who have proclaimed every gay person a threat to humanity.
        NOT one ounce.
        I don’t care if you like that fact or not JOEL. Thank God we all have the right to free speech, and not only haters and hater apologists. RIGHT?
        Yeah…thought so.
        and according to the reports..there were not even a hundred people ON the plane, so I am guessing that “more than 100 others” did NOT in fact die in the crash…OOOps…

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      • 14. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 7:01 pm

        Now I hear the NOM site is slow, so maybe you could go there and tell all the silly gays to stop being mean to Maggie Gallagher because she is really a sweet person
        once you get to know her…LOL!!

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      • 15. Joel  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:20 pm

        The news reports this morning said the death toll was between 94 and 132 people. What is an acceptable number of deaths? It’s less than 100 so it’s okay?

        Sure Deiter, you have the right to freely speak or type. The way YOU use that freedom makes you no better than Fred Phelps and his ilk. Those that would denigrate the worldwide gay community and wants to strip us of our rights, sometimes our very lives, hunt for people like you and use your statements against us. You do much more harm than good by celebrating death loudly and publicly. What is next? Will you take YOUR little hateful cadre with you and picket this man’s funeral? Can you say “Westboro” anyone?

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      • 16. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:22 pm

        Joel you need to get laid or something….
        but until then you go right ahead and enjoy the view from under that bus…..

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      • 17. Joel  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:41 pm

        Your ad hominem attack is unappreciated and inaccurate. I’m happily married, my friend, and don’t need to “get laid” as you so crudely put it. I only hope that you can one day find the love that I experience every moment of life for even one hour! It’s very telling that your only response to me is for me to “get fucked”.

        I pity you.

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      • 18. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:53 pm

        I said get laid…YOU said get fucked…
        ooops freudian slip?..LOL

        I still think you are high from the bus fumes from under the bus…..
        but I digress…..
        anyways..you be sure to have a lovely day. I wish I could bake you cupcakes, and hand you a lollipop.
        (is that how you want the gays to act?.)

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      • 19. Joel  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:08 pm

        “the gays?” how infantile! Are you assuming I’m not gay? To what bus are you referring? And I’m curious as to why you didn’t answer my question; how many deaths ARE acceptable? How do you justify your hateful statements? The same way Fred Phelps does? And your “you need to get laid” statement was stunning in it’s clarity, it is not me that made any mistake interprreting your meaning you meant to say exactly what I inferred, and now you’re backpedaling. What are you, twelve? I’ve seen netter debate techniques from toddlers. At least a toddler has the integrity to stand behind what he says. Perhaps YOU are the one who needs a night of love. I’ve got mine, good luck to you.

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      • 20. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:12 pm

        wow You’ve seen NETTER debate?..Can’t say I have as I do not know what NETTER is.
        P.S. Getting laid does not infer one must get fucked…so that must be YOUR own wishes not mine. bottom line is if you don’t agree with my posts, or like them..then stop reading them and responding…I think even a 12 year old would get that!
        have a terrific day. I hope you are doing just swell!!!
        LOL I just bet you donate to the HRC too…..

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      • 21. Joel  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:36 pm

        Lovely! When trying to maintain a position that is indefensible, attack a person for their typing errors! Very mature! I will continue to call you out on your hate, Dieter – that’s the other side of the free speech coin, or are you so caught up in your hate that you haven’t realized that yet? And iwill continue to wish that you and others like you will learn the difference between free speech and effective speech, and I will continue to pray for your well being ( not that I think prayer is an effective method for instituting change).

        Your rhetoric is inflammatory and does no good whatsoever, and is possibly harmful, in however small a way, to our fight for equality and acceptance. Perhaps you should look to the example of MLK to find a way to express your anger and resentment, and not vent it on the people who are on the same side, and not couch your statements in vitriol and pointless personal attacks. BTW, if you find any more typos, keep in mind that I have arthritis and find typing on an iPod “keyboard” rather onerous. And keep in mind also that I have refrained many times from criticizing YOUR grammar and spelling.

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      • 22. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:41 pm

        ummm…didn’t you say you are married?…shouldn’t you be with your spouse, and not in here supporting hateful bigots while attacking gay people for calling them out on it?…or is your “relationship” an open one where your spouse is off with another man who is not a screeching MIMI like you?
        Just curious..No wait ..I take that back. I am not.
        so don’t respond…

        You can always join the HRC. They love nice people like you…who hate other gay people who stand up for themselves.

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    • 23. Carvel  |  April 11, 2010 at 8:04 am

      Like all other bad news that happens, there is room for change because of the death of this man and his narrow views and opinions. It is a shame that so many others had to perish along with him. I think that the correct position to take would be that we are glad that a person preches, practices and promotes hate and violence against anyone is out of power. It is a shame that he is dead because we could have made an example of him.

      However, I would not have flown on the airplane with him because when God gets angry at people who go around teaching and advocating hate in his name, then i don’t want to be standing around or flying in the same plane as them.

      Let the religious bigots know that God’s wrath strikes both ways and let them try and explain that away with a passage in the Bible.

      I find that i have some person opinions that run counter to what I believe and express publically because i am a fallable human being and i can not help the way I feel, but I can help the way I act and the hateful things I say. Jesus did tell the people that he who is without sin to cast the first stone. But then he did not elevate the woman to being a saint, he just told her to go and sin no more.

      I can believe in God and Jesus and not believe in all the things that people say they said. that is a personal decision and not binding on others. I just personally believe that no matter how much I hated the man, I really hated his view and opinions and not the soul of the man. This one was pushing even my limits too and I suppose that is why I was not on the plane with him.

      Your opinion is not wrong, but it does not do our cause any good to advocate it quite so joyfully.

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  • 24. Billy  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:13 am

    I’m sitting here at the hospital with mom, nothing to do. She’s too tired, so all she can do is sleep. People, post more stuff and keep me entertained. :D

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    • 25. Bob  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:33 am

      Billy, my thoughts are with you, at this trying time, your mother is fortunate to have you by her side, Believe me your presence is felt and comforts her.

      You are being of service, this is the highest purpose we can aspire to as human beings. You sit in the presence of LOVE, and that is an honor, The feeling of helplessness the situation exposes, causes one to search deeply inside, and call forth from your spiritual essence, the natural instinct for LOVE , expressed in the smallest of ways, as service, lifting the cup or bending a straw so she could drink.

      Just your presence embodies all the above, know that you are not alone, in the sense that this opportunity allows connection to universal energy on a divine level.

      Do you have personal physical support, for yourself, you can ask for this from the hospital, the nurses can direct you to support systems in the hospital.

      Sending Love, cheers Bob

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      • 26. Billy  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:54 am

        Thanks for the nice comment, Bob. :D

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  • 27. Bob  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:17 am

    This is an example of what happens, when we consider any part of society, as unworthy, unwanted, it was considered like an ingenious plan by God, to exterminate a whole segment of the population,
    This would be a dream come true for the religious right, and all those who hate fags, (Maggie, Melissa etc, ) again , Anita Bryant was there spokeswooman of the time. They were extatic.
    And through this we prevailed, the gay community came together, out of necessity to protect the sick, organizations sprung up, education diseminated, , support groups, all kinds of services imaginable, Some of the sick were forced to recieve hellp from the religious do gooders, and accept their preaching, in order to survive initially.

    Back then, in spight of Reagan’s non action, cities like San Fran, and L.A. were the front runners in education and many, like us in Canada, connected with those upstarts, and learned, and organized our own supports based on their models.

    This epidemic in the gay community, can be credited for being a driving force for uniting our community in a way it never had before. While members of our community dropped like flies. We connected, for the first time not on the basis of celebrating sexuality, or aonther ball. But for survival, it gave us a cause, the legacy of which is the internations AIDS conference, which today brings the leading scientists and research techniques together each year in diffeent countries, Africa, was one of themost exciting (if you consider the gravitiy of the inersection in that country, poverty, negative concept of the disease (one cure they tought is that a male can be cured of AIDS by sleeping with w virgin) Whole generations of children left as orrphans, as the virus spread like wildfire amongst heterosexual. Yes, it was a victory for Africa to host the Internationa Aids Conference that year.
    And progress has been made, and continues to be made, but as Julio Montaner (President of Inernational Organization for Aids Research) reported last year during the massive publicity surrounding the HINI virous, if that kind of attention and publicity was given to the AIDS virus, we might by now have the research behind us to eradicate it.

    Personally, it’s like surviving the holocaust, for those in the medical pofession, who did see Aids for the disease it was, they stepped up to the late, and allowed us to recieve services as any other patient. Dr. constrained by politics, and it’s lack of funding, worked tiredlessly on the front lines, with compassion as their patients died, and with limited resources, organized, held conferences, developed research studies.

    Part of the success may be due to the pharmacutical copanies seeing the money to be made. Initially, the treatments were what killed many of my friends, but still it took compassionate dr.s to push for more research.

    And also the activists, many gay organizations sprung up who where in your face, picketed conferences, lobbied government, basically made a noise to draw attention to the plight of those dying, at the hands of the misinformed.

    In this situation, the most powerful country in the world, and one ot the wealthiest, (the one most able to lead) was silenced, by ignorance, and fear diseminated by the religious beliefs they clung to.

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  • 28. biff  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:23 am

    Mr. Reagan, to save money on school lunch programs, helped declare ketchup a vegetable….A truly brilliant man! (verp)

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    • 29. Billy  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:02 am

      Ugh, I hate ketchup. You’d have to eat a lot of that watered down crap for it to be a single serving of vegetables (especially considering that tomatos are a fruit). Yay republogic.

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      • 30. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:06 am

        LOL..about 15 minutes ago on cable…I saw a minute of the movie the bad news bears…and one kid was saying to the fat kid…
        “only two kinds of people put ketchup on everything..Morons, and republicans…..
        Then I saw your post..LOL

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      • 31. Straight Grandmother  |  April 10, 2010 at 3:35 pm

        Billy, do you remember when Jerry Farwell (I think it was him) lead a huge crusade against the Telly Tubbies becasue one of them was purple??? For real! I remember that.

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      • 32. Straight Ally #3008  |  April 10, 2010 at 8:21 pm

        Straight Grandmother,

        Yes – he was outraged that Tinky Winky was intended as a “gay role model” for kids. His (or at least his magazine’s) evidence? Tinky Winky was 1) purple 2) had an antenna shaped like a triangle and 3) carried a purse (actually his “magic bag”).

        Yes. This was the man who founded Liberty University, where they teach that the universe is 6,000 years old. If you take away their papers on nursing, my personal scientific publishing record demolishes that of the entire university. Fact.

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      • 33. Billy  |  April 11, 2010 at 1:04 am

        Yeah, I remember that! I watched the teletubbies, and they were all pretty “sexless” as far as I could tell. I think he was projecting his own fantasies and desires onto the poor character.

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    • 34. fern  |  April 10, 2010 at 12:10 pm

      and the best place to grow these vegetables are macaroni orchards.

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      • 35. Kathleen  |  April 10, 2010 at 12:40 pm

        Yes, like those documented here:

        (first aired April 1, 1957 on British TV)

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  • 36. Warner  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:07 am

    Revisionist history is the basic core tradition of the republican party.

    which is why they claim thomas jefferson did not contribute to our countries history and independence, and lincoln was a supporter of small goverment and state soverigenty (which is the polar opposate of what lincoln believed and stood for as a politician and president).

    how long before dick cheney is a well-loved humanitarian and peace activist?

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  • 37. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:23 am

    This is soooo funny, and TRUE:

    a South African ad agency is using Ricky Martin’s coming out to plug their line of tear-proof mascara.

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  • 38. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:26 am

    Quote from Mike Huckabee….a possible Presidential candidate in 2012:

    “I think there’s been a real level of being disingenuous on the part of the gay and lesbian community with their goal of civil unions. You don’t go ahead and accommodate every behavioral pattern that is against the ideal. That would be like saying, well, there are a lot of people who like to use drugs, so let’s go ahead and accommodate those who want who use drugs. There are some people who believe in incest, so we should accommodate them. There are people who believe in polygamy, so we should accommodate them.

    “I think this is not about trying to create statements for people who want to change the basic fundamental definitions of family, And always we should act in the best interest of the children, not in the seeming interest of the adults. Children are not puppies. This is not a time to see if we can experiment and find out, how does this work?” – Fox News host and former presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, speaking at the College of New Jersey.

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    • 39. Billy  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:38 am

      Think of the children! You know what I call it when Republicunts offer up their young to the political machine to achieve their sick agenda?

      Kidsploitation.

      There is no credible data that suggests children raised by same-sex partners are worse off than those raised by hetero couples. Kids just need love. What is a national shame though, is allowing children to be raised by the state when there are loving same-sex couples wanting to adopt, but are unable (yeah, I’m looking at you, Florida).

      By denying same-sex couples marriage (and all the benefits thereof), you are also denying their children (whether adopted or biological) those same benefits. Mike Huckabee, why do you seek to make the children of GLBT folks second-class citizens, like you desire for their parents as well? Why don’t YOU think of the children, for once?

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    • 40. Kathleen  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:42 am

      Just the same old talking points. I’ll say this about the right; they’re really good at delivering a consistent message.

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    • 41. PamC  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:48 am

      “behavioral pattern” = code for “it’s a choice”

      He’s blatantly following the Mormon agenda: denigrate gays to a non-entity or worse, an easily demonized group.

      Honestly, I’m so tired of the “it’s a choice” rhetoric that I would now respond, “Even if being gay is a choice, it’s STILL none of your business!!” Somehow, even among gays, there’s the sense that “if we were born this way, then you should accept us.” I feel that we deserve acceptance for just being human, and earn respect for living respectfully, on even footing with every human.

      When religions or any belief system “others” us and automatically places us among criminals, they’ve sacrificed compassion to gain a following.

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      • 42. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:59 am

        Actually the way I see it, every person who claims that being gay is a choice, is announcing that THEY themselves, as well as the entire population is at the very least bisexual.
        In order to make a “choice”, there needs to be viable options.
        If one is capable of CHOOSING their sexual orientation, than that would HAVE to mean that EVERY person is born with an inate desire for both sexes, and identifies more with the orientation they have chosen for themselves.
        That would also have to mean that all “straight” people also have feelings for the same sex, but simply have CHOSEN to not act on them.

        It is impossible to claim that only a certain portion of the population is capable by nature of making a sexual orientation choice while claiming that so called “straight” people are not able to make a choice because they were born that way.
        If one person has the ability to make a choice based on viable options, then all people are equal in that respect.

        So I would like to congratulate the entire republican party for coming out as bisexual!!!

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      • 43. PamC  |  April 10, 2010 at 12:00 pm

        Sorry, getting my hate religions confused. Huckabee’s not Mormon, he’s a “talibangelical.” :)

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      • 44. Bob  |  April 10, 2010 at 1:04 pm

        PamC, first thanks for distinguishing yourself from the other Pam,

        this concept of choice was the discussion StriaghtAlly#3008 and I were having, how did it go from being disorder or illness to choice, and that’s what led him to research (81 words), once that definition changed, they started using choice, as an explanation for our difference or otherness. What we don’t know if if throughout history, at any time before we were wrongly placed in the DSM was homosexuality refered to as a choice.

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      • 45. fern  |  April 10, 2010 at 1:12 pm

        I believe that the majority is naturally bi, ex.: homosexuality in prison and once out you can be anti-gay again. There’s same gender attraction which is also natural, but not accepted by society hence the Larry Craigs of this world.
        Choice or not is irrelevant to me if you’re asking to be married to a person there is a reason to that, it is a commitment and no one has the right to judge that.
        Also the “between a man and a woman only” is relatively new, simply because when those marriage laws were written not one soul would have thought of homosexuality, even less mentioning it.
        When I first heard about SSM I thought it was a funny joke and laughed, they thought I was against it too (very wrongly), I just like offensive jokes racist, ethnic, some I are more funny than others sure but they are jokes only.

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    • 46. Carvel  |  April 10, 2010 at 2:37 pm

      He is right we should protect the children at lal costs. We need to take impressonable children away from idoits like him. We need to make the penalty for dovorce to be death as it says in the Bible and force all people to raise their children. We should not allow adoption. If parents can’t raise their children then just execute the children as they should not be raised by anyone else. Everything that is in the best interest of the family needs to be done. there fore the penalty for adultry should also be death like in the Bible. We need to outlaw mixed marriages and not allow Pesbyterians to marry Baptists and all such other abominations.

      Just what kind of verbal garbage are all these people really advocating or is it just more specious reasons that boils down to one thing. Everything is fine the way it is as long as we don’t allow gay marriage.

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    • 47. Straight Ally #3008  |  April 10, 2010 at 8:31 pm

      You don’t go ahead and accommodate every behavioral pattern that is against the ideal.

      Classic slippery slope fallacy. Also, did you catch “the ideal” instead of “the law?” The whole issue is equal protection under the law, so he deftly evades it and goes with “the ideal,” which is of course God’s will as interpreted by Gov. Huckabee and his colleagues.

      I’m still worried that he’s the real-life version of Nehemiah Scudder. I don’t even want to think about how LGBT rights, science, and history would fare under a Huckabee administration.

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  • 48. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:27 am

    RUSSIA: Anti-Gay President Of Poland Dies In Plane Crash With 96 Others

    Poland has declared a week of mourning after President Lech Kaczynski and his wife were killed in a plane crash in western Russia this morning. All passengers and crew died in the crash. As mayor of Warsaw, Kaczynski had repeatedly banned gay pride marches and had been quoted as saying that same-sex marriage would bring about the destruction of the human race.

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    • 49. fern  |  April 10, 2010 at 1:19 pm

      Dieter, you must admit he was right and proved it by his own destruction, the end is near, death is rushing us but I ain’t in no hurry.
      And yes when I learned it I got a smile on my face.

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    • 50. Straight Grandmother  |  April 10, 2010 at 3:40 pm

      If that idiot is right then is sure sucks for Canada then!!! Wait, you say it has been 6 years with SSM and it is a big yawn, in Canada. As far as I can tell there are still living humans in Canada.

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  • 51. fern  |  April 10, 2010 at 11:53 am

    What was Reagan doing when Jo McCarthy was saving America from communism?
    Well I saw some archives of a young Reagan screaming like a madman at some people (actors, authors?) and at one time he screamed that claiming the 5th would not get them off the hook. I’m not sure where or when I saw this, but it could have been around 1986 when he told Olie North to claim the 5th during the Irangate problem.
    Is probably saw this on U.S. TV since I lived in AZ at the time.
    BTW when Schwarzie was elected Gov I remember saying to myself they didn’t have enough with one clown in California.
    PS I love Newsom 1st for the 2004 action then for the “like it or not you’ll have it”. I love people with guts.

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  • 52. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 1:04 pm

    Homework assignment for the day:

    Notify all of your friends and family to contact these groups, or at least be aware of them. This is the most comprehensive group of dangerous people:

    These organizations and groups wield great influence in the debate with campaigning, lobbying, media appearances and fund-raising, though their opposition can often descend into hate speech and demonization of non-heteroseuxals.

    Political Groups

    American Center for Law and Justice
    Americans for Truth
    Better A Milestone, Inc.
    Beyond Borders
    Center for Reclaiming America
    Christian Voice
    Citizens for Community Values
    Concerned Women For America
    Dove Foundation
    Eagle Forum
    Free Congress Foundation
    Free Market Foundation
    Heritage Foundation
    Oregon Citizens Alliance (Lon Mabon)
    Republican National Committee
    Rutherford Institute
    Take Back Maryland
    Traditional Values Coalition

    “Family” Groups

    American Family Association
    Canada Family Action Coalition
    Children’s Protection & Advocacy Coalition (CPAC)
    Family Research Council
    Family Policy Network
    Focus on the Family
    Minnesota Family Council and Minnesota Family Institute
    Pennsylvania Family Institute

    Religious Groups

    Abiding Truth Ministries (Scott Lively)
    Christian Coalition of America
    Christian Voice
    For Faith & Family
    Jerry Falwell Ministries
    LaPorte Church of Christ (Pete Peters)
    Westboro Baptist Church (Fred Phelps)

    “Ex-Gay” Groups

    Exodus International
    National Association of Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH)
    PFOX (Parents and Friends of ExGays)

    Misc.

    Dr. Laura
    Leadership University
    Morality in Media
    Parents Television Council

    ATTACK!! ATTACK!! ATTACK!!!

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    • 53. Warner  |  April 11, 2010 at 11:46 am

      “(Pete Peters)”

      Did their parents hate him?

      LETS NAME OUR KID DICK DICKENS!

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  • 54. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    In an apparent attempt to divert attention away from his little boy fondling ways, and to get people to start wigging out on religion again, the Pope has brought out the old debunked “shroud of Turin” for the first time in over a decade…to send it on tour..LOL
    this is desperation…..

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  • 55. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 1:16 pm

    Maggie Gallagher PWNED!!

    enjoy

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    • 56. fern  |  April 10, 2010 at 1:38 pm

      Dieter, as I said I didn’t care whether it was a choice or not.
      But here I believe a choice is very important with women like Prejean, my choice is to be hetero at least till I dump her, with women like Maggie I definitely want to become gay.

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      • 57. Carvel  |  April 11, 2010 at 8:28 am

        I have said this before, we know that a person’s sexual orientation is not a choice. WE KNOW THIS. We know this because so many people have tried to pick being straight and that does just not work. We know that conversion therapy at best only makes people no do anything gay at great personal sacrifice. Usually giving up being sexual at all and takes a great toll on their emotions and their mental health. We also know that usually the change just makes a person asexual.

        However, the real test is for a heterosexual person who functions in a completely heterosexual way to become homosexual, enter into a very active sexually functioning homosexual relationship. they would have to do this for say five years and then to change back to being heterosexual for another five years. This might prove it to me.

        First they would claim that they had already made the choice to be heterosexual and once made it can not be changed. yet they would have you believe that once we make the choice to be homosexual we can undue our choice. (So I say I guess the only real answer is that we need to get every male child laid regularly with a little girl from birth to puberty to get them to make what they claim is the proper choice.) All of their standards for their opinions and test results do not meet the scientific standards of reliability.

        Remember since the beginning of time the same people preached and taught and then even killed all those people who beieved differently from them. They killed the people who believed that the Earth revolved around the Sun and not the Sun revolved around the Earth as the Pope and all of organized religion taught and preached. Religion and the pope didn’t give up that belief and say they were wrong officially until the end of the 20th century.

        We simply do not have another 20 centuries for them to change their opinion about gay people if they ever will. I don’t want to be accepted or loved by them, I just want them to keep their hate and attempts to have laws passed against me and my kind out of this world. I don’t need them for me to be happy. but they need me not to do what I do for them to be happy. I don’t even want them to like me and accept me. I just want them to stay out of my life, my bedroom and out of politics.

        Next, lets pass laws that completely remove religious exemptions from tax exemptions. That way we could strip them of their only real power, money.

        In this country there are only two real sources of power. The most obvious one is money. The second one is numbers. The Blacks organized and became a voting block and marched and demonstrated and became a powerful political force. We need to do the same.

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    • 58. Sagesse  |  April 10, 2010 at 2:33 pm

      What a great ad. I assume it was not professionally produced, because I had to stop the screen to read some of the best bits… the stats on non-traditional, non same-sex marriages, the little dig about providing references to support your claims, for instance. But a wonderful message.

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  • 59. Sagesse  |  April 10, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    For an excellent portrayal of what those days were like, I highly recommend the 1993 HBO TV movie “And the Band Played On”, based on the book by Randy Shilts. Not that it excuses Reagan’s silence by any means, but the movie shows the difficulty of trying to make public policy in a highly sensitive area while the healthcare establishment was still piecing together, based on limited, emerging information, just what they were dealing with…. never mind trying to convince the powers that be to act on it. The scenes where they tried to convince the bloodbanks to institute precautions, when they were just figuring out that the disease was blood borne, are heartbreaking.

    Even in 1993 when it was first broadcast the subject was very raw. I was around at the time, and had forgotten how the story emerged. For those of you who aren’t old enough to remember, it’s valuable history.

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    • 60. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 3:35 pm

      OOOH I watched that movie last night. What a great movie. and one of the most factual movies ever made.

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  • 61. David Kimble  |  April 10, 2010 at 3:11 pm

    For anyone, who missed it on the previous thread, my new book, “On the Planet Parador is now avaialable at amazon.com – here’s a link for anyone interested. <3 David
    http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Parador-David-V-Kimble/dp/1451540639/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1270937110&sr=8-1

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  • 62. Kathleen  |  April 10, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    I know everyone here has these stories, but I just wanted to honor my very, very dear friend Kevin Adams, the anniversary of whose death is just 10 days from now. He lost his battle with AIDS on April 20, 1987.

    Kevin was a talented artist (he’s listed here in the National Registry of Artists w/ AIDS)
    http://www.artistswithaids.org/national/index.html

    He taught my oldest son his first word (“shoe”). Every Saturday morning, I picked up donuts on the way to his house for our date to listen to the live radio broadcast of the Metropolitan Opera. While we had coffee and listened to Puccini and Mozart, he turned over his studio to my young boys where they would paint for hours. We would take turns hosting musicales; he played piano, I played violin and we would create arrangements for whatever unusual mix of instruments were available for that particular gathering (quintets of piano, 2 violins, clarinet and trombone!). When someone invaded my home in the middle of the night and raped me, it was Kevin I turned to. He stayed by my side while I went through the process of police reports and he saw to it that I got the help I needed from the rape crisis center.

    We always imagined we would be friends forever, sharing our lives and the experience of growing old. But Kevin died when he was 35 years old. I can’t help but think that if our national leaders had taken an aggressive stand in support of research years before they did, that Kevin might still be alive and could have continued to be the powerful, positive influence he was in my life and the lives of my sons.

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    • 63. Straight Grandmother  |  April 10, 2010 at 3:49 pm

      35 year old Kathleen, 35 year old. Man that is way way way to young to leave. I am so sorry for you he sounds like a wonderful wonderful human being.

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    • 64. Bob  |  April 10, 2010 at 4:34 pm

      Kathleen, I hope not everyone, my young nephew, just came out, he personally has not experienced these things, and hopefully if research continues, it is possible he would only experience these things in his age group through stories, of how it was.
      People still die of AIDS, and I’m getting there, but the experience is not the same, as sitting by a bedside in a ward full of Aids patients, all very young, a lot of my friends, had no family member with them, so there were volunteers, to hold them while they took their last breath, often the nurses, and Dr.s joined in that support group, to form a bond of love, so a gay (yes mostly men at that time) who had been discarded by their own families, would be loved as they left this world.
      I’m so sorry for the loss of your gifted friend, thank you so much for telling his story, I think that’s the reason for the post today.

      For those who haven’ explored the quilt project, that’s another overwhelming, beautiful experience, see it the next time its displayed,
      Many of the quilts in that project where sent in by family members, after the death of a son, to make amends, and to have him counted, some deligently worked on the quilts as their child died.
      One friend of mine who died very young, and not very long ago, was in palliative care and we waited for his mother to come, there was much anxiety, because she kept putting off her arrrival date, by now the hospital social worker was gravely concerned. A phone call confirmed that she was aware of the graveness of the situation, finally she arrived, she said she had to work furiously night and day, till her fingers were raw, in a rage, at what she was doing, but she was determined her son would not die without a quilt,

      The victory for us , was his mother was with him,

      The last time the quilts were displayed in the museum in Vancouver, they were hung on walls, and created a tunnel effect, so they were able to all be displayed, but as you walked through the tunnel, often people would fall to the floor in tears when they found a friend respresented in the stitches, it overpowered one, emotionally and physically.

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    • 65. Sagesse  |  April 10, 2010 at 4:46 pm

      A thought experiment. Andrew Sullivan has estimated that 300,000 gay men died in the worst years of the AIDS epidemic in the US, before medical science brought the disease under control in the early 90’s. Don’t know where the figure comes from, but from other data I’ve seen it sounds about right. No one mentions the impact of losing an entire generation on today’s LGBT rights debate.

      Suddenly, they were just GONE. Their voices, their presence among us… just GONE. Whatever impact they would have had… on their family and friends, on their communities… as activists or legislators or role models… just GONE. Men who today would be in their 40s and 50s and 60s and 70s.

      What would the plaintiff’s experts have had to say if this lost generation had been around to be included in their research studies. How much has the debate been set back because men like Kathleen’s friend Kevin aren’t here.

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      • 66. Kathleen  |  April 10, 2010 at 5:12 pm

        I’ve always been aware of the impact of the epidemic on a generation of artists, probably because that was my social milieu, but I’d never really thought about this in the context of losing so many activists. You’re right. It’s another way in which the world lost so much as a result of all these deaths. Btw, Kevin lives on, not just in my heart, but in the influence he had on my children. My youngest son was a film major in college with a minor in studio art, and today is a partner in a graphic design company. I like to think that this is partly because of all that time he spent painting with Kevin.

        Bob, I’m sorry about your circumstance, but am so glad you’re still with us! I remember those days so well. The last friend I lost to AIDS was in 1995 — my next door neighbor, whose family had turned their backs on him. At the end, all he wanted was that he be allowed to die at home, not in the hospital. As my final gift to him, I fought and fought to honor that wish and finally got him home hours before he died. I always felt like he was just hanging on to make it home.

        I hope kids today don’t have these stories as a given in their lives. I worry that the current generation of young people have become complacent.

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      • 67. Carvel  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:03 pm

        As sad as it is, remember, that we lost several generations of hemophiliacs because the blood banks would not screen for hepatitis and other diseases that were good indications of if the blood might also be HIV positive before they had reliable tests for HIV. They said the burden was to great. In addition they passed laws to stop any lawsuits against blood banks for tainted blood.

        The problem is that they knew it was tained and did nothing to even narrow the chance of getting an HIV infection spread through tainted blood. Just about every hemophiliac in the country died or got HIV as a result of the tained blood products. You still can not sue blood banks for tainted blood for ANY RESON WHATSOEVER. This is just wrong if they don’t follow their own procedures.

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    • 68. Straight Ally #3008  |  April 10, 2010 at 8:39 pm

      Kathleen, you honor your friend greatly – thank you. And I was unaware that you are a survivor of such a horrific assault – words fail me, just thank you for being here.

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  • 69. Bob  |  April 10, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    In the U.S. alone,,,,, REagan equals red ribbon, make him own it.

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  • 70. Bob  |  April 10, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    Those of us who are what you call survivors, are only so befcause of SCIENCE, which works without discriminations, virus is a virus, and yes it was in 96 the advent of protease inhibitors that changed the tide.

    They are still working away quietly in laboratories internationally, the activists play a hudge roll, they’ve caught on to the money trail, our local aids organization PWA for persons with aids, hold their balls to the fire so to speak, when they come to town, to do their show and dance for the medical community, they always allow a number of places for patients, It is rather enlightening to be sharing cocktails with your dr. at the expensive of the pharmacutical companies.

    But we didn’t stop there, they also must come and do a presentation to us personally, which is usually an open forum for the gay community. That’s what you call co-operation. It takes activists to accomplish,

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  • 71. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    O.K. People: Get this
    In my town’s Newspaper the Sacramento Bee,
    they are running a story online about the death of Poland’s president dying.
    I submitted a comment stating that It was not tragic news for me as a gay man since he was a homophobic person in life who stated publicly that gays should be eliminated because they would be the cause of the end of humanity and the world.
    My comment was deleted, and when I asked why, I received the following response from the Bee:
    Your comment was deleted because it was making a moral statement against an individual.

    WOW!!! so saying I am part of a disgusting group of people who is going to cause the end of humanity is OK with the BEE. but my stating that he was anti-gay, is NOT acceptable because it passes judgemen?..WTF? WTF?

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    • 72. Lora  |  April 10, 2010 at 9:57 pm

      I live in Sacto too, Dieter, and I’m not surprised at all by what happened in the comment section of the Bee.
      Afterall…Sacramento is pretty much a redneck city, to the surprise of many who don’t live here. Sorry to hear what happened to your comment. Maybe I should go put my 2 cents in!
      (BTW…I live in midtown and I HATE Second Saturday!!)

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    • 73. Carvel  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:12 pm

      Don’t you understand the double speak of this fight we have on our hands. If we critize them we are making a moral statement against a person. If they oppose us and say we are the cause of the end of humanity, then they are only making factual statements and not moral judgments.

      I fail to see why you can not distinguish the difference between it is what I say it is because I say it is and you are just plain wrong because God told me that you were wrong.

      We just need to print our own Bible and put them into hotel rooms and put in cupons to fill out to have anybody ordained. Then they can spread the gospel according to our Bible.

      Since when did their positions have to make sense and be reasonable. If God said they were right who the hell are you to question God.

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      • 74. Dan Hess  |  April 11, 2010 at 1:13 am

        I’ll volunteer my religion for that, if you all like. I’m an ordained minister and would be happy to ordain the rest of you ^_^

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  • 75. Kathleen  |  April 10, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    I have the three briefs submitted to the 9th Circuit on 4/9/10 (by D-Is, the third parties ACLU/EQCA and Plaintiffs) on the question of whether the 9th Circuit has jurisdiction to hear the appeal of the discovery orders at this point in proceedings.

    Anyone who wants them, let me know. If you don’t already have my email address, you can locate me on the “Prop 8 Trial Trackers” facebook group and send me a private message through facebook.

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    • 76. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 7:17 pm

      OMG..LOL..I got the briefs….and I was smiling after the very first paragraph when our side says:
      Well if you want us to prove that your court has jurisdiction to oversee this appeal, then tell us no, and we will take the contempt charge, and then you will have no choice but to take the appeal…LOL
      short and sweet. That’s called a big F*ck you to the courts…LOL

      I just hope it doesn’t piss off the very court which is going to take the appeal when we win the first case with Walker…LOL

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      • 77. Kathleen  |  April 10, 2010 at 7:21 pm

        Yes, I think that’s position Plaintiffs attorneys take as well, only I think they said it’s the only legitimate way to assert jurisdiction.

        I’m really weak on the topic of civil procedure. But there seems to be an argument that the only way third parties can ask for this sort of appeal mid-way through proceedings is to refuse to comply with the discovery order, be held in contempt and then appeal the contempt order.

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      • 78. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 8:30 pm

        LOL..I just finished reading all the briefs. It appears our side did a great job, and their sides argument boils down to this:

        We had to show them ours so they have to show us theirs….LOL

        Don’t bother with the facts or the law….they saw ours, and we wanna see theirs…LOL

        Your honor it is not fair that the plaintiffs lawyers are better and smarter than us, and we should be allowed special rules because we have no hope to win this case so far..
        so please please please make the scary gays show us THEIRS!!!!

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      • 79. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 9:37 pm

        And yet another country surpasses the US.

        Iceland Could be Next to Pass Gay Marriage

        The tiny island nation of Iceland (pop. 320,000) is preparing to legalize gay marriage. The government introduced its gender-neutral marriage bill on March 23, CarnalNation.com reported.

        The bill has the backing of Prime Minister Johanna Siguroardottir, the world’s first openly lesbian politician to be elected to helm a country.

        Iceland was one of the first nations to recognize gay unions in 1996 with registered partnerships. The law has been expanded over the years to grant gay and lesbian couples all the rights, benefits and obligations of marriage, including adoption.

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      • 80. Carvel  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:15 pm

        It is standard operating procedure in any federal court brief to state the jurisdiction of the court to hear the matter. It is a simple one or two line statement stating the grounds for jurisdiction to hear the matter. It is usually just a routine matter that the court looks at and quickly makes a decision that they do or do not have the jurisdiction to hear the matter. This is not a big issue.

        Some issues and some matters are not appealable to the appeals courts.

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      • 81. Kathleen  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:29 pm

        These three briefs range in length from 26 to 41 pages.
        If you’re interested, you can see the order from the 9th Circuit, dated 3/3/10, stating the specific questions of jurisdiction to be briefed, here:
        http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/content/view.php

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    • 82. Kathleen  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:30 pm

      That should have read: dated 3/31/10

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  • 83. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    The latest Betty Bowers:
    She’s my hero…LOL

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  • 84. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    Famed British atheist Richard Dawkins says he plans to have the Pope arrested and charged with crimes against humanity when Ill Papa visits England in September.

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  • 85. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    LOS ANGELES – “Designing Women” actress Dixie Carter, who used her charm and stately beauty in a host of roles on Broadway and television, died Saturday. She was 70.

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  • 86. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    Designing women love the gays:

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    • 87. Kathleen  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:22 pm

      I miss this show!

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  • 88. Dieter  |  April 10, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    The best monologue ever written for a television program. Bar NONE!

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  • 89. Dan Hess  |  April 11, 2010 at 1:22 am

    Again, there needs to be a moderate political party in this country. The Republicans are filled with Talibangelicals and outright liars whereas the Democrats are made up almost exclusively of control freaks and wishy-washies. Moderates in both parties are a minority who got shunted to one side or the other because they thought they could put up with one more easily than the other.

    A moderate party with an emphasis on social freedom (all people have the right to do anything that doesn’t infringe on others’ rights), environmentalism, a strong and cooperative foreign policy, social reforms, capitalism (with controls against market exploitation but less price control), cutting extraneous projects out of the budget, and increasing funding for scientific research (especially AIDS treatments and alternative energy research) would be ideal.

    Make it clear that it’s time to fix what’s hurting America by supporting the policies that usually only come into effect after the left-right war has forced through two equally inviable solutions.

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    • 90. Dieter  |  April 11, 2010 at 1:25 am

      In the phillipines, the government just ruled that a new party could be formed. The “gay” party.
      we would never be allowed that here, since a new valid party for all intents and purposes must be passed by both houses, and since the republitards and the democants both worry about nothing other than being the ones in power, we could never achieve a party like the one they fought for and won in the Phillipines.

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    • 91. Carvel  |  April 11, 2010 at 9:23 am

      The problem is that in this country we divide up people according to conservative and liberal. You seem to have to allign yourself up with one or the other. For years I have been calling myself a Republicrat only because is sounds better than a Democan. I am part Republican and Part Democrat. That is why elections swing out of control from one party to the other and no astute political person seems to be able to know why.

      There are several factors that seem to influence elections.

      1. The personalities of the actual candidates. Sorry but there are just so many times that a candidate can put his foot in his mouth before the people have had enough. This is the belief that no matter who we put in office the very least the idiot can do is to shut up if he can’t say anything nice. (The Thumper philosophy)

      2. the decision by the general consensus of the voters if they have just plain had enough of the party in power screwing up government and their lives. This is the backlash from the party in power. After Clinton this effect helped to get Bush in. After Bush this is what helped to put Oboama in.

      3. this is the most important factor. What is more important. A person’s pocketbook or their civil liberties and rights. They then consider which candidate whill best serve their present needs.

      4. the financial retalliation of businesses and powerful people to the election results. We know that with enough money busnesses can affect the economy.

      Gay people can form their own party, but they don’t have anyone who has enough common sense to form a compromise party. People are generally financially conservative and liberal when it comes to human rights. the only people who are conservative in the human rights arena are those who already have lots of money and are sitting on top of the pile of rights and want to keep other people from obtaining their rights. This is not a hard and fast rule, but a general rule. they have their rights and they see that giving anyone else rights would take away from their rights. They are wrong, but they like the status quo because they have status.

      Government spends so much money that it is not and can not be extremely conservative. They are the biggest business around. that is why being a politician is powerful because you help control the money. Before the government had money it was public service, now it is a way to get money and power. Just look overseas and see if the government leaders are not the post powerful and richest people in the country usually.

      If a conservative candidate just cut back 10% on spending he would criple the country. If the people were given their civil rights the person would go down in history as a visionary. Look at history and see if some of this isn’t true. We fight political battles over the silliest things and the real battles over the control of the money go unnoticed. the politicians want us to pick fights over abortion and SSM because it keeps the eyes of the public off the real battles for the control of the money and the decisions of how to spend it. Money is made when we fight wars, fund healthcare and have the most expensive drugs in the world.

      We could eliminate the spread of HIV and many serious diseases with proper education, but they won’t do it. We immediately get on health scare concerning air born viruses and the flu. why not go after the spread of HIV with the same vigor. they will not because they have to pretend that sex does not exist.

      We are a fucked up society and we got that way without sex. We pretend that it doesn’t exist and then we use it to sell products to teenage kids and worship it in the movies and in politics. There are so many people who are really mad at the government that they just fight it where they see it and do not organize to fight and oppose it properly.

      People like Harvey Milk fought it in the system. He was reasonable and rational and that they could not stand. That was why he was killed. It does not matter the actual circumstances as to why, but sooner or later someone was bound to come out of the woodwork and take away the reasonable thinking gay people in politics.

      I am not saying that there is a conspiracy to take us out. I am just saying that assassination is a viable political tool in America, and the world. Terrorism is just another form of assassination of the common man. We have not held the politicians feet to the fire and gotten written promises from them as to exactly what they will do to end the abuse of our civil rights.

      Bush was a bastard when it came to gay rights. But he wasn’t a liar about his position and beliefs. Oboama is a liar and dishonest about what he believes and says he will do. They are two sides of the same coin. Heads we lose, tails the other side wins. There is no difference until one of the real heterosexual men we helped to elect grows some balls and does something right for us. Funny how the only people with real balls in politics and are willing to fight for our civil rights are gay. They are the only people who are willing to put their political careers on the line and stand up for civil rights of minorities. Even most of the Blacks and other minorities will not stand up and be counted in our fight for civil rights.

      Perhaps we should go back to burning Christians as a way of getting rid of them. (Bad joke there, but how quick the persecuted become the persecutors when they get the power.) Remember, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

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    • 92. fiona64  |  April 12, 2010 at 8:37 am

      There is such a party, but it’s very small:

      http://www.peaceandfreedom.org/home/

      Love,
      Fiona

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    • 94. Kathleen  |  April 11, 2010 at 11:01 pm

      Very interesting! So I wonder what results if they were to test all those “ex-gays.”

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  • 95. Dieter  |  April 11, 2010 at 11:14 am

    It turns out Carl Kruger, one of the few Democrats in the State Senate to vote against same-sex marriage (and the only one from Brooklyn) is willing to have the state extend the legal rights married couples enjoy to same-sex partnerships after all. Unfortunately, one of the partners has to die first.

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  • 96. Dieter  |  April 11, 2010 at 11:15 am

    To help honor the one year anniversary of 11-year old Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover’s suicide, GLSEN encourages everyone to contact members of Congress and urge them to support the Safe Schools Improvement Act. It’s legislation that will require schools receiving federal funding to enact policies to prohibit bullying and harassment; and provide them with resources to prevent and respond to incidents when they occur.

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  • 97. Dieter  |  April 11, 2010 at 11:17 am

    Even in death, African gays are stilll abused
    Full story: http://www.msnbc.msn.com

    Even death cannot stop the violence against gays in this corner of the world any more.

    Madieye Diallo’s body had only been in the ground for a few hours when the mob descended on the weedy cemetery with shovels. They yanked out the corpse, spit on its torso, dragged it away and dumped it in front of the home of his elderly parents

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    • 98. Billy  |  April 11, 2010 at 11:24 am

      Wow… WTF is wrong with people?

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      • 99. Dieter  |  April 11, 2010 at 11:34 am

        The scene of May 2, 2009 was filmed on a cell phone and the video sold at the market. It passed from phone to phone, sowing panic among gay men who say they now feel like hunted animals.

        “I locked myself inside my room and didn’t come out for days,” says a 31-year-old gay friend of Diallo’s who is ill with HIV. “I’m afraid of what will happen to me after I die. Will my parents be able to bury me?”

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