How Much More Hypocrisy?

May 7, 2010 at 8:00 am 71 comments

by Brian Leubitz

This was mentioned in the comments, but how many more times do we have to be berated my self-righteous, but self-loathing, jerks?

On April 13, the “rent boy” (whom we’ll call Lucien) arrived at Miami International Airport on Iberian Airlines Flight 6123, after a ten-day, fully subsidized trip to Europe. He was soon followed out of customs by an old man with an atavistic mustache and a desperate blond comb-over, pushing an overburdened baggage cart.

That man was George Alan Rekers, of North Miami — the callboy’s client and, as it happens, one of America’s most prominent anti-gay activists. Rekers, a Baptist minister who is a leading scholar for the Christian right, left the terminal with his gay escort, looking a bit discomfited when a picture of the two was snapped with a hot-pink digital camera.

Reached by New Times before a trip to Bermuda, Rekers said he learned Lucien was a prostitute only midway through their vacation. “I had surgery,” Rekers said, “and I can’t lift luggage. That’s why I hired him.” (Medical problems didn’t stop him from pushing the tottering baggage cart through MIA.) (Miami New Times)

At this point, are we just going on the premise that all of the anti-gay leaders are closet cases?

The bigger point here is that you can see the facade of piety just ripped away. This is about the quest for power within a movement centered around hating the other (that’s us) and a self-loathing so deep that they feel that they have to work against those who live their lives honestly.

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  • 1. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  May 7, 2010 at 8:06 am

    Yes, and this actually reminds me of the “Pearlygate” scandal, when you could almost tell which television evangelist was going to be the next one to fall from his pedestal simply by looking at who blew the whistle on who. Remember that one? This is nothing more than a new variation of that one. And it seems to prove the adage that the one who sreams the loudest against something is the guiltiest of doing it himself.

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  • 2. Jinks  |  May 7, 2010 at 8:20 am

    There’s an article up on Towleroad about a listened-in-on speakerphone conversation the two had (a couple of journalists were in the room when it occurred). It’s pretty sad. I feel so sorry for that kid.

    Basically this article is pretty damning. It was originally in the Miami New Times.

    This guy makes me pretty sad. Like, why so self-hating, guy?

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  • 6. Billy  |  May 7, 2010 at 8:26 am

    And in other news, water is wet. Film at 11.

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  • 7. Kathleen  |  May 7, 2010 at 8:27 am

    In case you haven’t been reading it, Joe Jervis has been following this story as well and has an interview with “Lucien” aka Jo-Vanni
    http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/05/my-interview-with-jo-vanni-roman.html

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  • 8. Alyson  |  May 7, 2010 at 8:49 am

    I am always amazed that when these stories of hypocracy come out their ‘flock’ is always so forgiving of them? Such 100% scapegoating of us – we can never do anything right. And they can be major liars and hypocrits and seem to suffer few consequences in their circle (or pocket book)

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  • 9. Happy  |  May 7, 2010 at 8:54 am

    Here’s what I believe: There is that period of self-questioning we all go thru when we first think we might be gay. Some think, “Am I?” decide that they are and instantly embrace it, some start in the closet, maybe go to counseling to disect it, but also ultimately embrace it, and some, like Mr. Rekers, go to church hoping to pray it away. Because, after all, who wants to be gay when it would be so much easier just to fit in with the societal majority and NOT be persecuted, right? (Whatever)

    So those of us who embrace it are all fairly well adjusted and happy. Those who try to pray it away just keep stuffing it down and trying their damnedest to hide it. They hate the rest of us for being what they can’t (that is, unafraid to just be who we are), and they hide their own homosexual tendencies behind a veil of hatred and anti-gay rhetoric – kind of hoping to hide in plain sight I guess. It’s like a sick way of still interacting with the gay community – even if only as an antagonist….

    It’s actually very sad, and, if it weren’t for the fact that everything these closet cases spew is hurtful, I might actually feel sorry for them. But I’m not sure I posses that level of compassion.

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    • 10. Ric  |  May 17, 2010 at 1:45 pm

      Nicely stated! I likee!

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  • 11. Ronnie  |  May 7, 2010 at 9:10 am

    “At this point, are we just going on the premise that all of the anti-gay leaders are closet cases?”

    That’s an understatement….<3…Ronnie

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    • 12. JonT  |  May 7, 2010 at 4:12 pm

      I second that. Motion carried.

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  • 13. Billy  |  May 7, 2010 at 9:35 am

    Now now, everyone. Who among us hasn’t hired a strapping young man from rentboy.com to do some manual labor before? I might follow the good pastor’s example and go there myself to hire a gardener.

    My bush needs trimmed and the weeds whacked repeatedly.

    What? Perfectly innocent. :p

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  • 14. Marlene  |  May 7, 2010 at 9:43 am

    In the interest of full disclosure, is there a “rentgirl.com”?

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    • 15. Roger  |  May 9, 2010 at 7:06 pm

      I don’t think there’s a site called rentgirl, but if you go looking for them there are plenty of sites where, er, ladies of the night can advertise.

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  • 16. Mark M.  |  May 7, 2010 at 9:43 am

    I do feel somewhat sorry for anyone who has lived their lives so full of self hatered….BUT this man has spread that hate around to so many of us that any compassion I might have had for him is greatly outshadowed by my contempt.

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  • 17. NetAmigo  |  May 7, 2010 at 11:45 am

    Rekers is no small potato. He is a professor of Neuropsychiatry & Behavioral Science Emeritus at the University of South Carolina School of Medicine and a founder of the Family Research Council with Dobson. He is, also, an officer of NARTH. Read about him on Wikipedia. I have know such militant homophobes. I believe they become such militants in an effort to try to control and master their own homosexual tendencies. I find it hard at times to know whether to pity or hate them.

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  • 21. Straight Ally #3008  |  May 7, 2010 at 11:48 am

    I’ll confess it again, guys. I would LOVE to see Lou Engle caught in the very act he rails against (and did so particularly vocally prior to Prop 8’s passage). If only to hear him pull a tearful Jimmy Swaggart-style apology in that over-the-top Macho Man Randy Savage voice of his.

    AH HAVE SINNED AGAINST YEEWWW!!!!!!

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  • 22. Straight Ally #3008  |  May 7, 2010 at 11:50 am

    Oh and while I’m at it, I’ll put in votes for Tony Perkins and Brian Brown to be outed soon. I’m convinced that Fred Phelps will die before anything comes out on the abusive old codger.

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  • 23. Carvel  |  May 7, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    I think that so many of them set the standards for human behavior so high that few humans can meet them. I also think that most of them want to keep sex as something mysterious and dirty to keep it fun for them. the more something is forbidden, the dirtier and more alluring it is. they are so homophobic because they have some seme sex attractions of their own. Well, get over it and stop lying to the public and to yourself.

    I wouldn’t care if they suffered because of their inability to accept who or what they are. My problem is that they foster their maladjustments on us and the unsuspecting public in the guise of religion and in the name of God. You want the proof that there is no God, it is that he does not part the heavens and smite the people who pevert his words in his name. The churches put thousands to death in the name of God under many different circumstances. If there was only one God thatn there would be only one church and he would destroy all the others.

    I know, too simplistic to be real logic, but it is how they think. Phelps says that God hates fags, well he could eliminate all of us with the blink of an eye. I don’t think at thimes there is a God because he lets people like Phelps go around smearing his good name. Take care.

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    • 24. John Metcalf  |  May 8, 2010 at 4:37 am

      Although I don’t really believe in a god, part of me would like to think that these little “outings” we see on occasion are the spritely maker’s way of “getting revenge” on the self-righteous.

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      • 25. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  May 8, 2010 at 4:41 am

        Ny mama always used to say that what you do in the dark will be broadcast in the sunlight. And I found out that my husband’s grandmother always said the same thing when he was growing up, or words to that effect.

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  • 26. Bolt  |  May 7, 2010 at 2:57 pm

    Will federal sexual orientation protection under the law shield us from these intrusive religious lunatics?

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    • 27. JonT  |  May 7, 2010 at 3:56 pm

      That certainly seems to be what the FRC and others are afraid of. Of course, they portray laws like ENDA to be ‘assaults’ on religious freedom. Indeed, that is their rallying cry to motivate their flock in opposition.

      Sad really. If they want to go hating on gays, I don’t believe ENDA will stop them (nor should it). It should mean, however, that their hate cannot restrict my right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

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    • 28. Carvel  |  May 8, 2010 at 5:01 am

      The laws and court decisions can not shield us from hate and personal vengence. Just like every other discrimination law, it will protect us some and give us equal rights. It will give us the right to marry and other equal rights. It will make acts against us that are motivated by our difference illegal and will possibly be treated as hate crimes.

      Murder is illegal, but people still murder and are still murdered. But think of the problems if murder was not illegal. Right now the churches acts are with impunity. In the future could Rev. Phelps get away with picketing funerals and calling people fags. the law will change from a religious opinion to the intentional infliction of emotional stress more in our favor.

      It won’t stop phelps, but it will go the next step to making him think harder and longer before he gets too involved in things. You don’t see him picketing divorce courts. After all divorce is punishable in the Bible by death.

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  • 29. Mandy  |  May 7, 2010 at 3:23 pm

    I was watching the end of the movie saved last night. Great black comedy and funny enough I always end up closer to believing in god then I do after watching a so called religious movie. I love how the main character said to the pastor about her gay ex boyfriend (and all the other so called “misfits”) that if god wanted us to be all the same why did he make us so different.

    I still don’t believe how people can believe that the world is only 7,000 years old and the dinosaurs and men coexisted however god creating people who are attracted to the same the same sex is not possible.

    It does seem like these scandals does end up having a good impact on the world. It makes people realize that humans are fallible therefore their religious leaders are fallible therefore the leaders choice to hate is fallible too. Or maybe that is just wishful thinking

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    • 30. Carvel  |  May 8, 2010 at 5:08 am

      I just happen to believe in God. Not their God that said all those hateful things or even never said them, but man said he did. I believe in the goodness, love and acceptance of a supreme being. I think that evolution may have been his way of making us. I don’t believe that the world or us are just 7,000 years old.

      My belief is just personal. I don’t believe that God gets involved in everyday life or if he does we will never see his hand. He wants us to work out the puzzle of life that he gave us. I have no problem with stem cell research. These scandals help us to grow and know that we are not perfect. God said to go and sin no more. I do not believe that our lifestyle is a sin. He meant that we sould not judge another and that her sin was not to go and love another person, but that she did it for money as I believe she was a prostitute.

      It would not matter if she was guilty of adultery. Just go and do not do it any more. the point is that we should live our lives in love and fidelity, not hate and judgment of others.

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  • 31. JonT  |  May 7, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    This story seems to be getting more and more play in the media.

    On one hand, if you are gay, and wish to remain in the closet, you should have that right. I would generally oppose someone being forcibly ‘outed’.

    But in this case, when the guy (Rekers) spends his whole career slamming (no pun intended) and demeaning LGBT people, and then turns out to be so obviously gay himself, I’m all for it.

    I must admit to taking some amount of pleasure when people like him (and Larry Craig, and so many others) are outed, and shown for the hypocrites they are.

    The Miami times article seemed incorrect on one point: It mentions that his parents did not know he was gay, yet in the JMG interview he states that he came out to his parents and friends when he was 16.

    Maybe the AC interview will clarify some things.

    At any rate, it is amusing to see how fast Rekers associates are rapidly distancing themselves from him.

    Hopefully Jo-Vanni will come out of this alright, and maybe with some opportunities that can allow him to move into a somewhat better career path.

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    • 32. JonT  |  May 7, 2010 at 4:19 pm

      One thing I forgot to mention, is Rekers has actually adopted children. The last one a 16yr old boy 4 years ago (which would make him Jo-Vanni’s age now).

      Rekers was paid a great deal of money (from 60K to 120K, the number seems to vary) to testify as an expert witness in Florida in support of the ban on adoptions by GLBT people.

      It would seem he violated the very same laws he help to enact. I hope there will be some sort of investigation, it’s possible others may come out of the woodwork against Rekers. His hypocrisy seems amazingly intense.

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  • 33. JonT  |  May 7, 2010 at 4:31 pm

    From JMG:

    Tune into Anderson Cooper 360 at 10pm tonight as Jo-Vanni Roman, Dan Savage, and anti-“ex-gay” activist Wayne Besen rip into the NARTH/Family Research Council scandal enveloping Dr. George Rekers. Must see TV, y’all!

    http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/05/cnn-10pm-jo-vanni-roman-wayne-besen-dan.html

    Wish I had cable for tonight:)

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    • 34. Kathleen  |  May 7, 2010 at 4:34 pm

      JonT, you can probably watch it online after it airs.

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      • 35. JonT  |  May 7, 2010 at 4:38 pm

        Yeah, I plan to try :) Rachel Maddow is apparently going to do a segment on this as well tonight according to a tweet via JMG.

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    • 36. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  May 7, 2010 at 7:15 pm

      BZ and I are watching it right now.

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      • 37. Michelle Evans  |  May 8, 2010 at 12:22 am

        Yes,, Rachel and Anderson both did segments, but also of note, so did Bill Maher in his opening monologue this evening. His best comments went something like: “It’s time to stop saying that most anti-gay activists may actually be gay, and admit that every one of them IS gay!”

        Gotta love that guy.

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  • 38. Max C  |  May 7, 2010 at 4:56 pm

    This really makes me more sad than frustrated, partially because it just comes as no surprise. It is, however, really rather heart-wrenching that someone is so afraid of who they are that the feel the need to actively fight against their own acceptance.

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    • 39. JonT  |  May 7, 2010 at 5:43 pm

      I must admit to feeling a little ashamed that I’m am taking some pleasure in Reker’s misfortune. I felt the same way about Larry Craig, and Ted Haggard.

      But even in my most closeted (and in some circles, I still am – particularly in the employment realm), I never hated myself or other gay people, so I really have no idea what drives someone to that kind of extreme. My guess is other self-hating people like Rekers.

      I really have no sympathy for him. It’s one thing to have to deal with these issues personally, quite another to dedicate pretty much your entire life to helping other GLBT people to learn how to hate themselves.

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      • 40. Straight Ally #3008  |  May 7, 2010 at 7:01 pm

        I have a sense that I should feel a little bit of sympathy for him too, but you know, especially after being reminded by Dan Choi’s talk of the wildly disproportionate rates of suicide and homelessness among LGBT youth, screw him. It’s Schadenfreude all the way for me in this case.

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      • 41. JonT  |  May 7, 2010 at 10:13 pm

        SA3008: Schadenfreude – yes, that’s the word I was looking for. In a way I feel bad about it (’cause I’m generally such a nice guy), but really – he (Rekers) does not deserve pity or sympathy…

        My opinion of course.

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  • 42. truthspew  |  May 7, 2010 at 5:35 pm

    Rekers seems to be a seriously repressed homosexual. Terrified is more like it.

    I’m so happy that not just one rentboy but two have stepped forward in this one.

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  • 45. Kathleen  |  May 7, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    UPDATE: Plaintiffs have filed their Response to the Proponents’ request to add more evidence to the trial record.

    Proponents seek to move into evidence 115 new exhibits… Proponents offer the vast majority of these documents to support the argument they advanced at trial that gay and lesbian individuals constitute a politically powerful group in American society. …Plaintiffs and Plaintiff-Intervenor object to the evidence that Proponents now seek to admit as hearsay, irrelevant, and untimely. However, in the interest of judicial economy and to avoid imposing on the Court the burden of examining and ruling upon each of the tendered exhibits, Plaintiffs and Plaintiff-Intervenor would not object to the Court taking judicial notice of the exhibits identified in Proponents’ Motion, as it did at trial with many documents that Proponents offered with no witness to vouch for their reliability, if the Court is disposed to do so at this late stage in the proceedings.
    In any event, Proponents’ 115 new exhibits should be afforded little or no weight and do not undermine any of the elements of any of Plaintiffs’ claims. … At most, these documents demonstrate the unsurprising fact that some groups and individuals worked, albeit unsuccessfully, to oppose the popular effort to enact state-sponsored discrimination against gay and lesbian individuals, just as groups and individuals have worked on behalf of other politically powerless groups in our nation’s history. The fact that the majority encounters some resistance on the way to violating the basic rights of a minority group, or that some voters oppose the violation of those rights, does not establish that the minority group possesses meaningful political power.

    Doc 665 available here:

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    • 46. Kathleen  |  May 7, 2010 at 7:09 pm

      Wish there were an edit function… should have been a paragraph break there. Hope it’s not too difficult to read.

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    • 47. Lily  |  May 7, 2010 at 8:40 pm

      So more bad evidence on their part? Are they just taking the approach of throwing everything at the wall and hoping it works?

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      • 48. Kathleen  |  May 7, 2010 at 8:46 pm

        At least Plaintiffs say so. No way to know what it is, as it’s all been admitted outside the public record, per the requirements of a protective order.

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    • 49. JonT  |  May 7, 2010 at 9:33 pm

      At most, these documents demonstrate the unsurprising fact that some groups and individuals worked, albeit unsuccessfully, to oppose the popular effort to enact state-sponsored discrimination against gay and lesbian individuals, just as groups and individuals have worked on behalf of other politically powerless groups in our nation’s history.

      Amen brother. Would love to see these new pieces of evidence, but I’m guessing that would be to much to ask of proponents. Thanks, as always Kathleen! XXX OOO

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      • 50. Kathleen  |  May 7, 2010 at 9:58 pm

        Amen indeed.

        You’re welcome, JonT XOXOXO

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    • 51. James Tuttle  |  May 8, 2010 at 1:17 am

      Kathleen, You are a god send! Even though the actual blog doesn’t update about these matter, these are the things I am actively looking to keep on top of. Than-You! I appreciate the hard work you are doing, more than you know.

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      • 52. Kathleen  |  May 8, 2010 at 11:01 am

        James, you’re welcome. … and it’s always nice to be appreciated. :)

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  • 53. Bob  |  May 7, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    so there going after the political angle of their argument, more than the scientific or religious, guess they figured out they were losing on those points, (unless is all a smoke screen)

    glad we weren’t politically forcefull enough to end DADT, yet, or ENDA ou DOMA that can all come after.

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    • 54. Kathleen  |  May 7, 2010 at 9:54 pm

      One prong of Plaintiffs’ case is the claim that Prop 8 should be subject to strict scrutiny because gays and lesbians constitute a “suspect class.” In order for a group of people to be considered a suspect class, the group must have certain characteristics. One of these characteristics is that the group is powerless to protect itself through the political process.

      As such, Plaintiffs presented evidence to show that g&ls have relatively little political power. It is that part of Plaintiffs’ case that Proponents are trying to defend against in offering this line of evidence.

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  • 55. JonT  |  May 7, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    Via JMG:

    What a disappointment CNN’s coverage was tonight. But WOW, did Rachel Maddow ever hit it out of the park! JMG reader Curtis observed on Facebook: “The difference in reporting between the two is notable. Probably not coincidental that one is out and one is not.”

    http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/05/no-match-maddow-vs-cooper-on-george.html

    At this link are links to both Rachel’s and AC’s segments.

    Rachel’s segment was more to the point regarding the hypocrisy angle, and CNN’s really wasn’t- it was geared more to relating the known facts in the case. Not a bad thing.

    In addition, there was no Dan Savage on the CNN segment as alluded to in an earlier JMG post. Bummer :)

    I guess I can understand why Jo-Vanni could not discuss any sexual activity (since it’s illegal). I hope he fares well through all of this. As for Rekers? Fuck him. Let him burn.

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    • 56. Kathleen  |  May 7, 2010 at 10:12 pm

      Yeah, I feel the same as you’ve expressed about Rekers. It’s not that I’m without compassion for the guy. I’m sure his must be a bitterly painful existence, defined primarily by shame and self-loathing. However, he’s chosen to turn those feelings into a life’s work of harming glbt people in every way he can find to do so — not just in opposing civil rights, but by producing the despicable pseudo-science that allows NARTH and other “cure the gay” groups to do very real damage to countless individuals.

      It makes me want to scream, cry, rage against the horrid person he is. And, frankly, it makes me very happy to watch this man fall. As far as I’m concerned, he’s brought it on himself.

      As for Jo-Vanni, I don’t think he has any idea just what he’s gotten himself into. I’m sure the Wretched Right will be gunning for him very soon. Joe Jervis (JMG) has reached out to a number of his contacts in Florida to try to find some support for the kid.

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      • 57. JonT  |  May 7, 2010 at 10:37 pm

        As for Jo-Vanni, I don’t think he has any idea just what he’s gotten himself into. I’m sure the Wretched Right will be gunning for him very soon. Joe Jervis (JMG) has reached out to a number of his contacts in Florida to try to find some support for the kid.

        Yes, I agree. He comes across as a deer in the headlights a little bit in the CNN interview :) But whatever the Wretched Right says, their flock will follow. Mostly. I think that some will begin to see the logical fallacies in their arguments.

        Whether or not Jo-Vanni understands yet what he has wrought, it is a good thing in the long run. And I must give a shout out to JMG for following this so closely and doing what he can to protect him. For me at least, he’s been to go-to guy in tracking this story.

        I only wish I’d had the courage to come out when I was 16. But those were different times, and I was a coward then :) Not a hating one though, so I guess I’m happy about that at least :)

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      • 58. Kathleen  |  May 7, 2010 at 10:46 pm

        I think that some will begin to see the logical fallacies in their arguments.

        I fear you give them too much credit. I’m sure they’ll just all pray for him, he’ll repent, claim to see the error of his ways and be brought back into the fold. That, or they’ll hang him out to dry and just shore up their defenses around all the other homophobes still in their stable.

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      • 59. JonT  |  May 7, 2010 at 10:53 pm

        Kathleen: That, or they’ll hang him out to dry and just shore up their defenses around all the other homophobes still in their stable.

        Damn your logic :) You are certainly right – indeed they have already begun the ‘cleansing’, based on his ‘disappearance’ on the various sites (FRC, NARTH, and whatever university he was a professor emeritus at).

        Still – another peg knocked out from under them. :)

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      • 60. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  May 8, 2010 at 4:06 am

        You mean the way so many of them did when Dr. Mel White came out? I read Strangers at the Gate, and of the so-called mainstream evangelists, the only one who stayed by him during that difficult time was Billy Graham. All the rest–Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Jerry Falwell, Pat Roberson, and the whole PTL Network lineup basically–turned their backs on him, and he had been part of their inner circle. Talk about folks abusing the teachings of Yeshua ben Yosef.

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      • 61. PamC  |  May 8, 2010 at 7:46 am

        I met Mel White before a NYC Pride Parade (he was hanging with the MCC folks) and read Strangers at the Gate afterwards. As a survivor of southern christianity in all its weirdness and homophobia, I truly appreciated his story. It’s also a good read for folks who come out while in an opposite sex marriage.

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  • 62. Lora  |  May 7, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    ” In order for a group of people to be considered a suspect class, the group must have certain characteristics. One of these characteristics is that the group is powerless to protect itself through the political process.”

    I would say that having the public vote and TAKE AWAY a right shows that we aren’t able to protect ourselves to the whims of those that would cause us harm.

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    • 63. Kathleen  |  May 7, 2010 at 10:18 pm

      I think Plaintffs’ attorneys made that very point during the testimony phase of the trial.

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      • 64. Lora  |  May 7, 2010 at 10:26 pm

        Of course they did…It’s been so long, I couldn’t remember all the “home-runs” they hit!!

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      • 65. Kathleen  |  May 7, 2010 at 10:32 pm

        I know, doesn’t it seem like a lifetime ago? I just hope Walker will be able to hold to the June date for closing arguments. Besides the possible dispute wrt admission of the evidence, there is Proponents’ motion to remove evidence, and their petition for cert with the Supreme Court on this latter issue.

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  • 66. Lora  |  May 7, 2010 at 10:25 pm

    I just saw both stories…Rachel, You Rock!

    Can that picture of Rekers look any gayer??

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  • 67. Matthew  |  May 8, 2010 at 12:12 am

    Now that Rekers is outed he can join NOM and be their poster boy(renter) for gays against gay rights.

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    • 68. rf  |  May 8, 2010 at 10:31 am

      That position is already filled by Brian Brown.

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  • 69. nightshayde  |  May 10, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    As I read the story (from a few sources), the constant that I saw was that Rekers didn’t have sex with his “travel companion.” Same for the alleged other call-boy. They say they gave him massages, that he was clearly aroused, but that they didn’t have sex.

    I’ve noticed before that the homophobic wackos equate homosexuality only with having sexual relations with someone of the same sex — hence the whole “cure” thing. They think that if you never have sex with a same-sex partner, you can’t be gay. If you used to have sex with same-sex partners but are able to stop doing so, you’re no longer gay. They don’t take into account that you can physically have sex with only opposite sex partners yet still be gay (or bisexual). When Ted Haggard’s wife was (fairly recently) talking about how her husband had been “cured” and that he was no longer gay, my immediate thought was “Duh, honey — he’s bisexual & just not currently banging men, or he’s thinking about banging men while he’s making sweet sweet love to his dear wife.”

    In Reker’s mind, if he hasn’t actually had sex with a man, he may think he’s telling the truth when he says he’s not gay. He probably thinks of himself as a straight man who has unwanted fantasies and urges.

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    • 70. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  May 10, 2010 at 2:07 pm

      Yes, and wrt Ted Haggard, I wonder if he played afely during his 3.5 year affair?
      Of course, I remember all too well my own days of being closeted. I also remember my mother’s initial reaction when I came out. I had good refexes thankfully, so I was able to move faster than the coffee table Bible she hurled at me. She later came to accept it and her only wish after that was that I find someone who would treat me right. And I am thankful that I have found that one who treats me right.
      I only wish everybody could find someone who treats him or her the way BZ treats me. If that were to happen, all of us would be a lot happier.

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  • 71. Intellectual Contortions « Prop 8 Trial Tracker  |  May 11, 2010 at 10:42 am

    […] the story about George Rekers from last week? Well, there’s more to it. Apparently, Bill McCollum, the Attorney General of Florida who is […]

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