Open Thread: Where the NOM tour is going next

July 19, 2010 at 11:17 am 91 comments

By Eden James

Hey everyone — our team is recovering from a long weekend of covering the NOM tour events and counter-protests in Albany and Providence.

And what a weekend it was. The comment threads are overflowing with discussion about tactics and potential actions going forward. And we would love to keep the discussion going. Many local and state organizations are reading these threads and may benefit from reading what this community is thinking about the tour so far.

So, below is a schedule for the rest of the tour, our interactive map of the NOM tour (including links to past posts), and a great one-stop-shop tour page from Freedom to Marry for equality events being organized as well (it’s being updated as events develop). Check them all out and share your thoughts in the comments.

Consider this an open thread for any and all discussion of the tour, as well as for sharing new links and info that we may be able to post on the front page. And if you want to share this site with your friends, just link them to:

http://www.NOMTourTracker.com (which redirects to this site domain)

NOM’s “SUMMER FOR MARRIAGE” TOUR SCHEDULE

Trenton, New Jersey

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Tuesday, July 20, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
State House
Trenton, NJ 08608

Annapolis, Maryland

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Wednesday, July 21, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
State House
Annapolis, MD 21401

Columbus, Ohio

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Friday, July 23, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
State House, South Lawn
Columbus, OH 43215

Lima, Ohio

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Saturday, July 24, 2010 from 2:00pm – 3:00pm
Old Dave’s Market Parking Lot
2450 Ft. Amanda Rd.
Lima, OH 45804

Indianapolis, Indiana

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Monday, July 26, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
State House, East Steps
Indianapolis, IN 46204

Madison, Wisconsin

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Tuesday, July 27, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
State House, (State Street entrance)
Madison, WI 53702

Saint Paul, Minnesota

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Wednesday, July 28, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
Minnesota State Capitol
St. Paul, MN 55155

Saint Cloud, Minnesota

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Thursday, July 29, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
Granite City Baptist Church
1425 Country Road 134
St. Cloud, MN 56303

Rochester, Minnesota

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Friday, July 30, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
Rochester, MN (Location TBD)

Des Moines, Iowa

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Sunday, August 1, 2010 from 2:00pm – 3:00pm
State Capitol
Des Moines, IA 50319

Sioux City, Iowa

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Tuesday, August 3, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
Sioux City, IA (Location TBD)

St. Louis, Missouri

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Thursday, August 5, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
St. Louis, MO (Location TBD)

Atlanta, Georgia

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Saturday, August 7, 2010 from 2:00pm – 3:00pm
State Capitol (Washington Street side)
Atlanta, GA 30334

Tampa, Florida

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Sunday, August 8, 2010 from 2:00pm – 3:00pm
Tampa, FL (Location TBD)

Raleigh, North Carolina

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Tuesday, August 10, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
Raleigh, NC (Location TBD)

Charleston, West Virginia

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Wednesday, August 11, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
Charleston, WV (Location TBD)

Harrisburg, Pennsylvania

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Friday, August 13, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
Harrisburg, PA (Location TBD)

Washington, DC

Summer for Marriage Tour Stop:
Sunday, August 15, 2010 from 2:00pm – 3:00pm
U.S. Capitol Steps or Freedom Plaza
Washington, D.C.

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  • 1. ĶĭŗîļĺęΧҲΪ  |  July 19, 2010 at 11:19 am

    Still no locations for some of the cities :(

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    • 2. Lesbians Love Boies  |  July 19, 2010 at 11:21 am

      Perhaps NOM has tried and people have said no to NOMs requested location.

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      • 3. ĶĭŗîļĺęΧҲΪ  |  July 19, 2010 at 11:29 am

        @LLB
        That would have been great.
        But I know certain people in Raleigh who plan something, so I hope NOM won’t disappoint them by not showing up :P

        @Mark
        If that’s what they are doing, they only harm themselves: it’s not a problem for us to quickly find out where to go, but it is a problem for their mostly senior citizens to show up at a new location or even know about it at the last minute.

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      • 4. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  July 19, 2010 at 11:59 am

        Actually, from what I have been told, they are waiting for final approval of the permits they have applied for, or in some cases may have to wait to file those applications. Some places have time limits on how far in advance you can apply for permits.
        But if they follow their usual pattern, they will be at the local state houses, county courthouses or legislative buildings.
        If they are trying to impress the NC General Assembly, however, they will be out of luck, since the session is over until January.

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    • 5. ĶĭŗîļĺęΧҲΪ  |  July 19, 2010 at 12:02 pm

      NOMosexuality IS a SIN!
      (words by Felyx; pic by Kirill)

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    • 6. Alan E.  |  July 19, 2010 at 3:17 pm

      Subscribing.

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  • 7. Mark M  |  July 19, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Or they are purposely keeping them quiet till the last minute to limit our counter demonstartions

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    • 8. JonT  |  July 19, 2010 at 11:50 am

      Wouldn’t that also make it harder for their own people to know where to show up?

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      • 9. Mark M  |  July 19, 2010 at 12:40 pm

        I never said they were smart LOL

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  • 10. Kathleen  |  July 19, 2010 at 11:30 am

    Is there a way to get information on some of the planned grassroots actions appended linked form the interactive map? For example, I know out TT regular Billy has set up a facebook event signup page for Indianapolis.
    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000352052751&ref=ts#!/event.php?eid=139058012789400&ref=ts

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    • 11. ĶĭŗîļĺęΧҲΪ  |  July 19, 2010 at 11:32 am

      Correct link:
      http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=139058012789400

      Guys, be careful with FB links: they are weird. Open them always in new windows to have just the link you need before copying the location.

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      • 12. Kathleen  |  July 19, 2010 at 11:35 am

        Thanks for that Kirille. I should have known better with a facebook link; I’ve had trouble with them before. Actually, if you look at all the typos in my post, it should be apparent I haven’t had coffee yet. :)

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      • 13. ĶĭŗîļĺęΧҲΪ  |  July 19, 2010 at 11:43 am

        Well, Kathleen, I prefer not to criticize or even notice typos and whatnot (in others’ comments, of course). I simply noticed that a lot of people have a problem with FB links and they don’t understand how to get the correct link, so I was trying to help with that everyone who will read it, not you particularly. :)

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    • 14. Billy  |  July 19, 2010 at 11:46 am

      Also, thanks to Joshua for showing me another FB link to an Indy counter rally: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=144005072283731

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    • 15. Lesbians Love Boies  |  July 19, 2010 at 2:12 pm

      Kathleen has a good point. What might be an idea is to create a page for each city, that way the links and info aren’t scattered all over comments from the last 10 days. then you can just list the cities on the right under any of your widgets (site stats by wordpress, etc.)

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  • 16. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  July 19, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Okay, folks. I know that Felyx, Papa Foma, and I are not the only ones from North Carolina. Let’s get together on the Raleigh stop. Come on, folks. Let’s do this!!!

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    • 17. Lesbians Love Boies  |  July 19, 2010 at 11:51 am

      Hey Richard, I don’t know if Raleigh is a really small town. But do you have any LGBT political organization or clubs there that may not know the big bad NOM is coming to your town?

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    • 19. Straight Grandmother  |  July 19, 2010 at 12:30 pm

      Do you have a facebook page like Billy made?

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      • 20. ĶĭŗîļĺęΧҲΪ  |  July 19, 2010 at 12:33 pm

        @Straight Grandmother
        Yes, there is the Raleigh Facebook page for the event on August 10.

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      • 21. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  July 19, 2010 at 12:37 pm

        @Straight Grandmother: yes, as Kirille so kindly posted, we do. Thank you for your continuing interest. I look forward to seeing you on the page, and feel free to send a friend request to me. I do have some things I would like to ask you, but this is not the proper forum, since they are more business-related.
        @Kirille: thank you for embedding the link in your response. I am still learning these things, and am so appreciative of your help in that area.

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  • 22. Billy  |  July 19, 2010 at 11:57 am

    Also, this bears reposting because I am furious about it, and it was at the tail-end of the last thread, so some may not have seen it…

    So, I looked up on the internet to see if anything is going on at Indianapoils for an organized counter rally. I found this website http://www.freedomtomarry.org/summer-for-marriage which said it encompasses PFLAG Indianapolis, Stonewall Democrats and Freedom to Marry. They’re gonna hold a public screening of the film “Out in the Silence” the same date and time as the NOM rally…

    ELEVEN MILES AWAY FROM THE NOM RALLY

    WTF? Seriously. W. T. F.! “Oh, let’s have a coalition of local glbt groups stage a counter protest to NOM’s hatred ELEVEN MILES AWAY FROM THEIR EVENT AT THE SAME TIME. That’ll show them!”

    I’m sickened. Repulsed. Shocked, even. Are the gay leaders just hanging average gay Joe out to dry here or what??

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    • 23. Rikaishi  |  July 19, 2010 at 12:19 pm

      It might be thought of as just a different style of protest? Heck, with a little co-operation from local media they may even be able to starve NOM’s rally of media coverage by diverting attention towards their own event, while avoiding any potentially bad press from a direct confrontation.

      I agree that on the face of it it looks like they’re shooting themselves in the foot by weakening the counter-protest, but if done right, and with sufficient clout behind it, it could be an effective little underhanded tactic.

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      • 24. Billy  |  July 19, 2010 at 12:39 pm

        I don’t think a homosexual themed movie is gonna draw the media attention like a rally. But, to each their own. I just wish the community would get organized behind one thing, instead of splintering off into numerous low-number gatherings

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      • 25. Dave P.  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:02 pm

        Grr! Scheduling the movie at the same time as the NOM rally forces our people to choose between going to the movie or going to the rally. It will cut our numbers down at BOTH locations. They should re-schedule the movie and show it about an hour AFTER the NOM event has ended. Eveyone should go to the NOM event and stage a counter-protest there and then go see the movie later. Am I right?

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      • 26. Billy  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:28 pm

        http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=133307683374595

        Here’s the facebook page for the Indiana Equality event. The page says 7:00pm-9:00pm, but the freedomtomarry website says noon-1:00pm. How disorganized are these rallies that they can’t even get the times right??

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  • 27. Straight Grandmother  |  July 19, 2010 at 12:40 pm

    I went to the Freedom to Marry webpage and clicked on the events. So this organization believes in not even being in the same neighborhood, much less on the courthouse steps with NOM. Their protests are let’s have a picnic in a park across town, The President of Equality.xx will speak, we’ll play corn hole and have lunch and a great time. Really that is one of their protests. Sigh…

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  • 28. Stormy  |  July 19, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Show Me No Hate is planning…something. But details are sparse as of yet.

    FB event: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=131563770211798&index=1

    http://www.showmenohate.com/

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  • 29. Straight Grandmother  |  July 19, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Stormy, OM Gawd, you already have 133 people attending. WOW! Kudos. I wonder if there are plans to be in the same physical arena with NOM or will this be a protest offsite away from the NOM group. Even if you don’t have a location do you have a strategy?

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    • 30. Ray in MA  |  July 19, 2010 at 7:44 pm

      Keep your underwear on, GrandMa, as we learned in Providence RI, 133 FB “will attend” really means 66 people if lucky.

      (read the previous threads closely… the mother who’s son is a magician has calculated the trend fairly reliablly)

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    • 31. Stormy  |  July 19, 2010 at 8:22 pm

      I’m not actually involved with the SMNH group (in fact, I live on the opposite side of the state), just trying to get the word out about the planned event. Since the NOM location is TBA still, I imagine the equality folks are having issues deciding exactly what to do. I’m hoping to drive over from KC to attend whatever ends up happening.

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  • 32. Ronnie  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    I say we overwhelm them in DC…bombard them with every form of protest that was used….unite…<3…Ronnie

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    • 33. Straight Grandmother  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:24 pm

      Well Ronnie, that would mean a good portion fo the protest would involve having an off site meeting with lunch provided and others would head to LaFayette park for a picnic and corn hole. No I don’t think all forms of protest are appropriate for DC. The only forms of protest that should be there aer ones where at least we are on the same turf as NOM. My son and his legal husband and my daughter say they will attend in DC.

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  • 34. Dalow  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:06 pm

    This relates to a disc ussion of the images on the NOM tour bus last Friday (or was it Saturday?) I sent an e-mail to iStockphoto and here is their reply. Thought you’d like to know.

    ———–

    Thanks for contacting us.

    Our Compliance Enforcement team is currently reviewing this matter. As a general rule, when we find an iStock image that is not be properly licensed or used within the terms of the license, we deal directly and privately with the person or organization using the image. As I’m sure you know, there is still a great deal of confusion and ignorance regarding copyright in general and, most of the time, we are able to resolve issues in a timely manner.

    We appreciate you taking the time to send this email.

    Kind Regards,

    Veronica Langridge

    Compliance Enforcement Officer
    _________________________
    iStockphoto LP
    Suite 200 – 1240 20th Avenue SE
    Calgary, AB T2G 1M8, Canada

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    • 35. Kathleen  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:12 pm

      Looks to me like a canned response, and politely letting you know why you may hear nothing more from them on the matter.

      I still contend that more effective than any licensing enforcement action iStock might take, would be to have the photographer and/or models vocally and publicly disclaim any association with NOM.

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  • 36. Tim  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    A PICNIC ELEVEN MILES AWAY? *jaw dropping*
    People, one reason this argument seems like such an uphill battle is because instead of confronting the enemy and getting in their face and letting them know that we are going to stick up for ourselves, we play Mr nice Gay and have a picinc! Pride was last month folks!
    Someone needs to contact these groups and let them know that now is NOT the time to be party planning. Someone do something, I’m too far away in Ca.
    Billy I feel your anger. Thanks for sharing.
    If NOM was coming to Ca I sure as hell wouldn’t be baking an apple pie, Id be gathering up MY storm!

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    • 37. Straight Grandmother  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:30 pm

      Tim, I know it is hard to keep track of social engagments so I’ll help. No 11 miles away is in Indiana and it is a showing of a homosexual coming out movie open to the public.

      The picnic in the park with corn hole I think was Ohio. You will ahve to go look at the Freedom to Marry website on their interactive map to see their planned protest.

      Oh and another in a different state. They are going to have a post card drive that day, how sweet is that? Yup they plan on spreading out and aksing people to ign postcards to spport SSM which they will mail into the politicians. No mention fo lunch at that protest, it might be brown bag.

      Notice that I am not passing judgement, just posting the information I found at their website. I quit looking after these though.

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      • 38. Tim  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:38 pm

        Thank You !

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  • 39. Mark M  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    So any thoughts or ideas on how to reach out to the large percentage of single LGBT people? How do we pull them into a fight on an issue that many feel doesn’t effect or pertain to them?
    I know this to be an issue as it’s been expressed to me countless times.
    Or maybe this is just a local Seattle thing?
    During our recent fight over Ref 71 Everything BUT Marriage so many young single Gays just didn’t seem to care or understand what this means in the bigger picture for equality. Couldn’t get many involved…..
    Seriously, any thoughts?

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    • 40. fiona64  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:43 pm

      I replied to this on a separate thread as well.

      In a nutshell, you need to get the singletons to understand that yes, it *does* affect them. Why? Because any time someone’s civil rights are put up for a ballot, that means that *everyone’s* rights are up for grabs.

      The NOM agenda is, in many ways, parallel to the anti-choice agenda. The anti-choice are hammering away at Roe v. Wade, chipping away access, implementing restrictions, etc. Sure, abortion is still legal, but it may as well not be if you can’t get access.

      Ditto NOM, going all over the country to try to get peoples’ rights taken away bit by bit. Sure, it’s still legal to be gay … but if they get their way, Lawrence v. Texas would be overturned. So, you could be gay as long as you are celibate and closeted (never mind the simple fact that straight folks get up to all of the same stuff … they ignore that on a regular basis).

      That’s really what it’s about — the tyrannical majority deciding that they find some group distasteful and working against it. In both cases I cited, the basis/”reasoning” is misogyny in action.

      Love,
      Fiona

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      • 41. Mark M  |  July 19, 2010 at 2:02 pm

        Thanks Fiona…all good points, and I agree completely. I still wonder though how to reach these young singles, and make them understand the bigger picture here.
        It’s frustrating
        Thank you for your replies :-)

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      • 42. VRAlbany  |  July 19, 2010 at 4:36 pm

        “any time someone’s civil rights are put up for a ballot, that means that *everyone’s* rights are up for grabs.”

        Exactly, Fiona!

        I am straight and have found myself really caught up in gay rights issues because of that point. Of course I am primarily pissed off on behalf of some very good friends whom this affects directly.

        But I also really dislike some of the rhetoric coming from the traditional marriage crowd. First of all, the whole “slippery slope” argument is BS. All the wacky combinations of people marrying their animals/objects/close relatives will not come about in a civilized society. Like you indicated, the real “slippery slope” we need to worry about is the one where a tyrannical group claims a monopoly on marriage and sets more and more restrictions and excludes more and more people from the institution.
        I especially dislike the “reproductive ability” argument they try to make look like a criterion for marriage in order to exclude same sex couples. Well, I know several straight people and couples who can’t/don’t plan on having children. Ever. Honestly, I don’t plan on it myself. Will “traditional marriage” proponents work to legally keep me from marrying someone I love?
        And like you might suspect, NOM’s agenda does indeed overlap a bit with the “anti-choice” agenda. When I was holding and umbrella in Albany this weekend, one of the NOM speakers went off on a tangent about how righteous their cause is, and of course slipped into talking about how they have made progress in reversing some of the “evils” that resulted from Roe v. Wade.
        (There was also a real “looker” of a gentleman wearing a “CHOOSE LIFE” t-shirt, pacing near the protesters and glaring in an attempt to be intimidating)

        Real nice people.

        Anyway… yes, I completely agree with you.

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      • 43. fiona64  |  July 19, 2010 at 6:58 pm

        VRAlbany wrote: Well, I know several straight people and couples who can’t/don’t plan on having children.

        That’s my husband and me all over, LOL.

        Love,
        Fiona

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  • 44. Mark M  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    Another idea for a poster/sign

    bigotry

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  • 45. Tim  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    I just sent an email to Freedom To Marry, asking them to redirect their focus and efforts to the NOM rally and save the picinic and a movie event for a time when it is more appropriate! We will see if they respond.

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  • 46. VRAlbany  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    I suggest this to use as a slogan/signs for future (peaceful) protests.

    “Fear is a destructive lifestyle. Choose Love.”
    I held a sign that said that, and a several people came up and took pictures of it. I think they paid attention to that message.

    NOM loves to hear people call them “bigots” and say that they are full of “hate”. They take those words and twist them around, eg. “No, we love everyone, we want to save them from sin, we love our children.” and “They discriminate against us when they call us bigots, we’re the victims, blah blah blah….”

    So I suggest calling them “fearful” instead of “hateful”. The organization uses blatant scare tactics to stir up unfounded fears about the homosexual community, the biggest example of that being “The Gathering Storm”.
    They use lies to terrify people into joining their cause, and they need to be called out on that.

    So call them fearful, not hateful, and act peaceful and send positive messages as well.

    Perhaps something like “Vote Love, not Fear” would get the message across as well.

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    • 47. fiona64  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:45 pm

      You are exactly right, of course. The entire NOM campaign is based on fear-mongering, and we need to avoid playing into those fears. In the minds of their supporters (and, possibly, people we are trying to reach who are undecided), that proves their point.

      Love,
      Fiona

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    • 48. VRAlbany  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:48 pm

      Or “There’s nothing to fear about Love”

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  • 50. aaron holmberg  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    What? no Michigan? no California? … YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • 51. Tim  |  July 19, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    NOM Please come to California! We have a message for you….

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    • 52. Mark M  |  July 19, 2010 at 2:04 pm

      Washington would love for your to stop on by as well…..

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    • 53. Elliott  |  July 19, 2010 at 2:44 pm

      I know!! If they would come to Los Angeles or Sacramento, I have ranks of people (and umbrellas) ready to deploy! I suppose they have cut out half the country from their tour because they can see the writing on the wall and know that any day Judge Walker will likely rule in our favor. It will look like the end of the world to them when the sun rises in the west!

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      • 54. Tim  |  July 19, 2010 at 4:50 pm

        ” LIKE”

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  • 55. Mark M  |  July 19, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    OMG!!!
    Why don’t we in cities and states that aren’t getting a ‘visit from NOM’ set up rallies in support of the final stop in DC?
    We all have plenty of time to organize something…get all of our local media involved. Might be a great way to draw full national attention to this. Not to mention the added support to the our side at the end of NOM’s ‘Tour of Hate’

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  • 56. Kim  |  July 19, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    What we need to show more than anything else is Gay Families. Happy Gay Families. Let them show up, mingle with the participants. Show them what they want to destroy.

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    • 57. Kim  |  July 19, 2010 at 2:47 pm

      Have older (18+) kids of gay couples engage individual participants.

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  • 58. PamC  |  July 19, 2010 at 3:03 pm

    lol I just noticed that they’ll be in Orlando on August 8th, the day we’re flying down there to check up on my mother’s health (her short-term memory is getting worse almost daily). We laughed out loud at the thought of turning up for ANOTHER protest! Probably won’t happen, since we’re flying in on the same day, but funny thought. :)

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    • 59. Mark M  |  July 19, 2010 at 3:22 pm

      Go get em!!!
      hehehehehehehehe

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    • 60. Mark M  |  July 19, 2010 at 3:23 pm

      PS: Sorry about your momma sweetie :-(

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      • 61. PamC  |  July 19, 2010 at 3:34 pm

        Thanks, Mark. :)

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  • 62. Mark M  |  July 19, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    More Poster Suggestions

    LOVE5

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  • 63. Straight Grandmother  |  July 19, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    PamC, careful, they will think you are stalking them.

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  • 64. Abby  |  July 19, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    Anyone in know what’s going on in Columbus?? Freedom to Marry’s event (again) isn’t being held at the same location as the NOM rally. I can’t find anything that Stonewall Columbus or anyone is planning…we have to do something to show them there are equality-loving people (even in Ohio)!

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  • 66. Mark M  |  July 19, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    So I’ve sent out mass emails to every organization and club in the Seattle area…started a facebook event page.
    Now let’s see how organizing this takes shape

    http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=114032035313452#!/event.php?eid=114032035313452

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  • 67. Greg and Mike  |  July 19, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    We have one of the 18,000 California same-sex marriages. For days before the event I went around humming “Going to the Chapel.” I think the ideal protest would be for people to gather around the NOM events and sing that song the entire time, and as people pass by invite them to join in. Create a chorus of tolerance and love to overwhelm their chorus of prejudice and hate. Just keep singing……

    Goin’ to the chapel and we’re gonna get married.
    Goin’ to the chapel and we’re gonna get married.
    Gee, I really love you and we’re, gonna get married.
    Goin’ to the chapel of love.

    Spring is here,
    theeee sky is blue.
    Whooooa! the birds all sing as if they knew.
    Today’s the day, we’ll say, “I do”
    and we’ll never be lonely anymore.

    Because we’re going to the chapel and we’re, gonna get married.
    Goin’ to the chapel and we’re, gonna get married.
    Gee, I really love you and we’re, gonna get married.
    Goin’ to the chapel of love.

    Bells will ring,
    theee sun will shine.
    Whooooa, I’ll be his and he’ll be mine.
    We’ll love until, the end of time
    and we’ll never be lonely anymore.

    Because we’re goin’ to the chapel and we’re, gonna get married.
    Goin’ to the chapel and we’re gonna get married.
    Gee, I really love you and we’re gonna get married.
    Goin’ to the chapel of love.
    (yeah yeah yeah yeah)
    Goin’ to the chapel of love.
    (yeah yeah yeah yeah)
    Goin’ to the chapel of love…

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    • 68. Mark M  |  July 19, 2010 at 4:49 pm

      LOVE IT!!!!!

      Reply
    • 69. Ray in MA  |  July 19, 2010 at 7:47 pm

      Been to the “chapel”. now it’s time to get serious.

      Reply
  • 70. Jaime  |  July 19, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    NOM is coming to my city next week. If I had the time and resources I would try to organize a massive gay kiss-in at their rally. There’s nothing like gay PDA to get anti-gay people all freaked out.

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    • 71. Mark M  |  July 19, 2010 at 4:52 pm

      Doesn’t have to be massive Jaime…get as many couple as you can in the time you have. Your statement will be the same regardless.
      I love your idea!!!
      show them we love….show them we are affectionate to one another…show them we are just like them.

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    • 72. Ғĕłỹҳ  |  July 21, 2010 at 6:50 pm

      I was hoping to do this in NC. Felyx

      Reply
  • 73. Tim  |  July 19, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Jaime, if you can’t do massive than do it well, the outcome is the same! KICK ASS ! We are with you!

    Reply
  • 74. Lori  |  July 19, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    Anyone know what’s planned for the Harrisburg protest?

    I’m from Philly and I’d like to head out for that one. I haven’t seen anything planned with that one yet, though.

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    • 75. Audrey GetEQUAL Smith  |  July 20, 2010 at 12:00 pm

      I am also from PA (State College) and have been looking for any type of event at the Harrisburg NOM stop, but have found nothing. It looked like Freedom to Marry was going to hold some sort of event over in NJ that day

      So, Justice League – Activate! (a direct action group that I co-founded) is planning to attend the NOM rally (at the proper distance) with our FAMILIES and our signs, wearing red Tshirts and do an informal Kiss-In. And we will probably chant, “I AM SOMEBODY! AND I DESERVE FULL EQUALITY! RIGHT HERE! RIGHT NOW! I DESERVE FULL EQUALITY!”

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      • 76. Audrey GetEQUAL Smith  |  July 21, 2010 at 9:01 am

        Audrey GetEqual Smith just played “call this person” game with a multitude of officials in Harrisburg PA and finally got the answer that we DON’T NEED A PERMIT to counter-protest NOM on August 13th! All they need is notice, and Justice League – Activate! gave it!

        Summer for Marriage NOM Tour Stop:
        Friday, August 13, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
        State Capitol
        N. Third and State Streets
        Harrisburg, PA 17120

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      • 77. Chrys  |  July 21, 2010 at 5:56 pm

        Do you have a link to this? Or any contact info? My lady and I are in Pittsburgh, but will be over near Harrisburg that weekend to attend a conference, and we would love to be at the counter-protest.

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      • 79. Audrey GetEQUAL Smith  |  July 26, 2010 at 4:46 pm

        http://www.freedomtomarry.org/page/event/detail/summerformarriage/rtt

        Orly? Freedom to Marry w/ Equality Pennsylvania and LGBT Community Center Coalition of Central Pennsylvania are planning a MOVIE the NIGHT BEFORE the NOM stop??? PLEEEEEASE!!!

        If you are ANYWHERE near Harriburg PA, come to THIS event on Friday the 13th:
        http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/event.php?eid=144354515578400

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  • 80. Ray in MA  |  July 19, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    I learned alot being involved in the Providence Ri protest last Sunday…

    There is diversity among our opinions as to how we can overcome.

    One faction is “in your face” agressiveness and intimidation.

    The other is using the legal tools that have been presented to us by our current laws and founding fathers.

    Do I want to win my equality using those civil tools?

    Or do I want to win my equality using intimidation and aggressiveness?

    Hard to decide.

    Their approach seems so unfair and under handed, that to some, our knee jerk reaction is to push for our side using whatever means possible.

    However, if we follow the laws of the land, we win on two fronts:

    1. We win our equality.

    2. We show them that we are more intelligent and more sophistiicated than them and worthy of our place in society.

    … Difficult choice.

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  • 81. Jaymax  |  July 19, 2010 at 6:47 pm

    As NOM was started by the Mormons in 2007
    http://www.mormongate.com/
    I think it would be great for someone to do a parody on NOM’s One Man One Woman theme.

    The message could read:
    NOM = Mormon=One Man+Many Wives

    With Photoshopped pictures of the same people adverteised on their bus but with one man, several women and a dozen kids.

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    • 82. Ray in MA  |  July 19, 2010 at 7:14 pm

      Youu youngsters think you are so smart!

      Listen to your elders…I’m sure that many of you don’t even know that this is a spoof on a 1966 movie:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Russians_Are_Coming,_the_Russians_Are_Coming

      Seen this Kirille?

      I saw this at a “Drive In” movie show when I was 9 years old.

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      • 83. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  July 19, 2010 at 8:44 pm

        Actually, Ray, I think the poem at the top of the “Mormongate” page is a spoof on the Washington Irving classic “The Midnight ride of Paul Revere.”

        Reply
      • 84. Ray in MA  |  July 20, 2010 at 4:09 am

        LOL!!!! I saw that movie before I learned about Paul Revere!!!!

        Reply
      • 85. ĶĭŗîļĺęΧҲΪ  |  July 21, 2010 at 2:22 am

        @Ray in MA
        So many comments, I just got to this one.
        I know about the movie The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming, but haven’t seen it yet.  Papa Foma and Felyx told me about it and I looked at some portions of it available on YouTube.  Looks like a nice comedy.

        Reply
  • 86. Michael  |  July 19, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    We need to make sure we show up AT each location of NOM’s Hate Tour. This business of officaily deciding to “ignore” them or planning counter events at some other location is useless. We need to be there, protesting in a non-violent manner, and perferably including some pro-equality people of faith in our protests. For too long, we have allowed false prophets to lie about us and we’ve not been there to confront the lies. The rainbow umbrella protest was a great example of creative, non-violent, protests. Let’s show radical anti-gay activists that we are not going to take it anymore.

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  • 87. kanders07  |  July 20, 2010 at 11:49 am

    Are they afraid to come to the West Coast? I notice that all the stops are in the east and mid-west. I love the rainbow umbrella protest. Very creative. My partner and I have been together almost 17 years and in the state, California, that’s supposed to be one of the most liberal states in the country we can’t be married. We have a number of straight couples as friends and still can’t figure out how our relationship or marriage affects theirs.

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  • 88. paulo  |  July 22, 2010 at 5:49 am

    I am split on whether we should just be mocking this sad little bus romp or shutting it down with some nice old fashioned counter protests.

    It is easy enough to go the ignore route as they appear to be failing horribly and we certainly don’t want to give them any publicity and sympathy. Attention may be just the thing to drive up their numbers and activism.

    On the other hand a low level simmering fight on this issue plays into their hands. We need bold clean distinctions in front of the public and it does not hurt at all for the majority of people to see that not only are we suffering but we are willing to take to the streets to defend ourselves. No one ever gave civil rights to a quiet minority.

    Overall, I just wish they would have come up to my home town. Our local MENY chapter would just love to deal with them.

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  • 89. Lesbians Love Boies  |  July 23, 2010 at 7:23 am

    Here are some updates to the Tour Schedule (note these are only updates, not the whole schedule ; )

    Rochester, MN
    Friday, July 30, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
    New Life Worship Center
    6301 34th Ave. NW
    Rochester, MN 55901

    Raleigh, NC
    Tuesday, August 10, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
    State Capitol, South Side
    Raleigh, NC 27601

    Charleston, WV
    Wednesday, August 11, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
    State Capitol, Kanawha Blvd. Steps
    Charleston, WV 25305

    Harrisburg, PA
    Friday, August 13, 2010 from 12:00pm – 1:00pm
    State Capitol
    N. Third and State Streets
    Harrisburg, PA 17120

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  • 90. Fleeperic  |  August 6, 2010 at 6:13 am

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    The Account reported the proportions to be quality $38.5 million, including $13 million guaranteed. On normal, Johnson inclination nowadays turn $10.5 million per year during the next seven seasons, not including effectuation incentives.

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    The University of Miami-Florida yield has dog-tired his whole seven-year career in Houston after the Texans selected him with the third total pick in the 2003 NFL Draft.

    Johnson has recorded back-to-back 1,500-yard receiving seasons, including a 101-catch, 1,569-yard campaign last year. He also scored nine touchdowns in 2009 to up his craft mount up to to 42 TDs in 102 games.

    “After the matrix two years, unknown has played to the honest that this young valet has as fancy that I’ve been round, other than at one other guy,” said nut instructor Gary Kubiak. “What he’s been doing has been distinctive, and there’s a plight more to come. So, that’s going to be exciting.”

    He has caught 587 passes for the benefit of 7,948 yards in excess of the progress of his rush, no more than two of the numerous club records he owns.

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