NOM Tour Tracker: New Jersey video lowlights and some not-so-comic relief

July 21, 2010 at 8:55 am 32 comments

By Eden James

Madison Galluccio’s presentation at the Garden State Equality town hall was a highlight of the Garden State Equality event in New Jersey on Tuesday.

But our videographer also cut a video together that includes Madison’s testimony and then a bunch of, er, lowlights, including the Brian Brown interview in which Brown spins furiously on the #NOMturnoutFAIL and his iStock photo tour bus. It also includes a few extra clips of interviews with NOM supporters in Trenton that might leave you either speechless or, well, er, scratching your head:

Honestly, I don’t know whether to laugh at the PFOX guy (“Female. Breathing.”) or feel sorry for him. In the end, I guess all we can do is, er, pray for him.

On the subject of praying, how about those Rabbis? That was some major-league crazy.:

Comic relief was provided by those three zany, irrepressible Rabbis from Lakewood who once again stood on the sidewalk outside the Capitol, holding signs saying gays were all going to Hell and explaining that the gays were responsible for everything from Hurricane Katrina to the world-wide economic collapse. One passerby commented “the Marx brothers over there would be hysterical if they weren’t so absolutely vicious.”

Speaking of conflicted personalities, Brian Brown wrapped himself inside the legacy of Martin Luther King yet again:

“What if Martin Luther King Jr. would have listened to those who tried to silence and tell him that his faith has no place in the public square — that he should be silent?, Brown told The Star-Ledger. “You are a part of a new civil rights group — a civil rights group dedicated to protecting the most fundamental and basic institution known to mankind: marriage.”

Meanwhile, here’s a news report from the Providence rally and counter-protest that many of you may not have seen:

Got more links? Share them with the community in the thread.

We’re getting ready for the Annapolis, Maryland, event which should be getting underway soon. I know several of you are following various news sources quite closely, so if you have any links that have not been shared before in previous threads (or you think need more attention), please post them in the comments for the community!

NOTE: Several Courage staffers will be at a conference over the next 3-5 days, including me. But we’ll do our best to support our staffers on the ground as they follow the NOM tour from Annapolis to Columbus and Lima, Ohio over the weekend.

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  • 1. ĶĭŗîļĺęΧҲΪ  |  July 21, 2010 at 8:57 am

    Subscribing

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    • 2. ĶĭŗîļĺęΧҲΪ  |  July 21, 2010 at 9:12 am

      Several days ago I sent an email to ask Equality North Carolina why don’t they want to organize any sort of counter-protest at NOM’s rally.  Today I got a reply with their position:

      Hi, this is Shawn at Equality NC.

      Thanks for your e-mail.

      We’re not doing any sort of NOM counter-protest, simply because that would help to validate their POV but wouldn’t really create a useful dialogue.

      If they only have a few people, then our adding more would create a newsworthy event. If they’re busing in hundreds of retired and stay-at-home folks for their protest, then our folks won’t be able to compete in numbers because most of our supporters have to work for a living. And even if we could match them person for person, we double the attendance at a public event they create. When we let them frame the dialogue and respond in their context, we’re in a weak position to counter their message.

      We will be sure to have pro-equality folks available to talk to the news media that day. Beyond that, we’ll continue our normal work, engaging people in discussion and human-to-human interaction. Rallies are always tempting because of the emotional value of a few hours of high energy activity, but real progress comes from measured, rational interaction over the long-term.

      Besides, we have every confidence that they’ll come across as crazy and out of touch, and we don’t want to be associated with that! 8-] Also, who wants to rally in the middle of the day in the heat of summer in North Carolina?

      Certainly, though, we respect and support all folks who work for LGBT equality in whatever capacity.

      We’re also encouraging people to contribute to our new “Celebrating Our Families” blog: http://equalitync.org/news1/we-are-family

      A lot of the marriage discrimination movement is based on simple ignorance, and everything we can do to educate folks on the reality of LGBT and allied families will serve everyone in the long run.

      Please let me know if you have any other questions. Thank you so much for all of your interest and support!

      — Shawn 8-]

      I guess, there will be no organized counter-protest in Raleigh.  What a shame.  Looks like NOM is really counting on retired citizens who are most likely to be anti-gay.

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      • 3. Bob  |  July 21, 2010 at 10:26 am

        well that certainly is a different approach they’re taking, they don’t see the benefit of creating a newsworthy event,

        wonder what the results of that will be, seems like one of our goals was to keep this in the main line news,

        maybe there;s a surprise punch coming, and they just want us to thinik they’ve got no plans for counter NOM’s message.

        well, it’s an opportunity to see how their approach works, at furthering our cause. but then it even sounds like they aren’t participating in a joint cause , but rather now asking us to donate to another organization.

        Question, re their statement, “Certainly, though, we respect and support all folks who work for LGBT equality in whatever capacity” does that open the door to groups like Queer Rising to come in and do their thing.

        This NOM rally will be an interesting one to watch.

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      • 4. Chris B  |  July 21, 2010 at 12:55 pm

        Wow, as North Carolinian (not Raleigh though) that seems disappointing. And I find the logic a little strange. The point of showing up is to show how many pro-gay marriage people there are versus anti-gay marriage. There doesn’t have to be a protest or words, just a crowd of people in red (or whatever color) shirts. The news reporters (if any show up) could be told that people in red support gay marriage. Most people won’t confuse NOM supporters with the anti-NOM group.

        I think they symbolism of it is very important. And the whole NOM marriage bus tour thing seems pointless anyway. Just a publicity stunt. Our side should be able to cash in on the publicity too. Maybe get someone to donate water and hand it out to the people passing by. No angry protests, just some nice people who believe in equality.

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      • 5. Ғĕłỹҳ  |  July 21, 2010 at 3:48 pm

        I am going to stand up for Marriage Equality. I know the guys there and have worked with them. They are very busy working on lobbying and various project to increase education and long-term visibility as with the “We Are Family” project.

        In a way they are right. They are a rather small group and they have bigger fish to fry. Really they are telling NOM that they are too unimportant to bother with a counter-rally.

        Furthermore I would point out that North Carolina tends to be rather low key in general. As a state we tend to be slow and deliberate. We focus on long-term goals and try not to make waves in either direction. Most of all we are laid back and easy going. We are not known as the Rip Van Winkle State for nothing!

        So in a way, we really are reacting to NOM in our own way. By not paying any attention to them but focusing our attention on our people, perhaps this fly-by-night hate-rally will pass through without leaving a trace.

        I am proud to be a North Carolinian. Sure I like rabble-rousing but keeping my eyes on the prize is the real task. I wish you other states the best. You fight for us and let us work our magick behind the scenes for you.

        Felyx

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  • 6. Lesbians Love Boies  |  July 21, 2010 at 9:06 am

    OT: Mass. judge who wrote gay marriage ruling retires

    “Massachusetts Chief Justice Margaret Marshall, who wrote the landmark ruling making the state the first to legalize gay marriage, said Wednesday she’s retiring to spend time with her husband, who has Parkinson’s disease.”

    Read More: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/7117868.html

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  • 7. Chris B  |  July 21, 2010 at 9:13 am

    I wish the people who have the opportunity to as Brian a question would not waste the opportunity with silly questions–like about the stock photos on the bus, which isn’t really important in the whole scheme of things, but would ask meaningful questions like if NOM considers divorce to be an even bigger threat to the health and value of the word “marriage”.

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  • 8. Bolt  |  July 21, 2010 at 9:26 am

    Why do people from other countries come here and tell us how to live our lives?

    Why does anyone tell us how to live our lives?

    Horray for courts!

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  • 9. Rikaishi  |  July 21, 2010 at 10:17 am

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/38335268#38335355

    A bit after the halfway mark in this video is a very salient point about about the politics of racial supremacy, which I notice bear an uncanny resemblance to the tactics we see from the anti-gay industry.

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  • 10. Greg  |  July 21, 2010 at 10:25 am

    Alright, I’ve watched the clip of the PFOX guy three times, and forgive me, but I’m just not getting it. What the hell is he talking about?

    Why did he say he “didn’t make that choice”, right after implying that he did? And available for what, now? And what does who look like?

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    • 11. Fluffyskunk  |  July 21, 2010 at 9:08 pm

      What he’s saying is he [thinks he] made the “choice” of being gay, and then he made the “choice” of being straight*, but he never made the choice of not being married, it’s just that nobody wants to marry him (surprise!), hence “female. And breathing” as his requirements for a potential spouse.

      *In actual fact, he’s obviously bisexual (duh).

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  • 12. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  July 21, 2010 at 10:38 am

    logging in

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    • 13. Ronnie  |  July 21, 2010 at 10:46 am

      subscribing… I Love ALL of you….<3…Ronnie

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      • 14. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  July 21, 2010 at 11:37 am

        We love you too Ronnie :-)

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    • 15. Kathleen  |  July 21, 2010 at 11:09 am

      subscribing

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  • 18. Ronnie  |  July 21, 2010 at 11:57 am

    Hey guys/gals…I posted my pics from Garden State Equality’s Trenton, NJ Town Hall meeting & Lunch…here’s the link…enjoy….<3…Ronnie

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=70498&id=1265439321&ref=share

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    • 19. Lesbians Love Boies  |  July 21, 2010 at 12:00 pm

      WOW. Great Pictures. Thanks for sharing. The outside shots really shows how big our turnout was.

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  • 20. Randy  |  July 21, 2010 at 12:24 pm

    The sad thing about Brown invoking MLK is that NOM stands for exactly the OPPOSITE of Dr. King and the real civil rights movement. The civil rights movement is about EXPANDING rights – giving MORE rights to MORE people. NOM is about WITHHOLDING rights. Somewhere, Dr. King is weeping.

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  • 21. ĶĭŗîļĺęΧҲΪ  |  July 21, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    This just in…
    Yet another example of NOM’s lying machine at work!

    Protestors storming the podium. Threatening young children. Police standing by doing nothing.

    The mainstream media hasn’t told half of what actually happened in Providence and Albany this past weekend.

    Watch the new footage for yourself. It is truly shocking.

    Then help spread the word. If all our friends stand together, truth and love will defeat their hatred and deception.

    Help fight back! Your gift of $20, $35, or even $100 will help stop these activists from setting the future course of marriage in our nation — and trampling the rights of all of us! Click here to make your online gift today!

    This weekend was a shock to many. From the Catholic News Agency this morning: Homosexual Activists Disrupt Pro-Marriage Rallies, Intimidate Nursing Mother.

    ─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
    Brown gives the link to the video that they fabricated.  You’ll find it at the bottom of this comment.  But first some interesting quotes from there:

    This past weekend NOM’s Summer for Marriage tour was met with aggressive protests in New York and Rhode Island.

    You’ve got to be kidding me!  Albany, New York?  Really?  Aggressive protest?  Un-freaking-believable!

    The Albany protesters came armed with balloons and rainbow-colored umbrellas, silently marching onto the platform during the rally!

    Armed with balloons  I SO see Rachel Maddow repeating those words as she usually does on her show, and there is no need to comment anymore…

    Others followed the Hispanic woman to the back of the rally bullying her as she tried to nurse her baby and watch the rally with her children.

    Well, this is self-explanatory.  We are the bullies, huh?

    In Providence, the protesters were … shaking bottles filled with rocks targeting young children with intimidation!

    And I’m not even mentioning how they showed a sarcastic remark made by one of the counter-protesters as if it was a real threat to a little child.

    I’ve never in my life see such a short, almost 2-minute video full of so many lies!
    See for yourself!

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    • 22. PamC  |  July 21, 2010 at 2:14 pm

      Did anyone see water bottles filled with rocks or coins?
      All the ones I saw in Providence were filled with dried beans.

      Ray in MA — what do you think? Did you see anyone threatening children with beans?

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  • 23. VRAlbany  |  July 21, 2010 at 7:14 pm

    @ 4:51 in the first video…
    “If you can change from straight to gay-” wait, wait, wait…
    What in the hell is he talking about??? Is he confusing when people come out after years of pretending to be straight for fear of rejection/harassment with “turning” gay?? Do they really think 100% straight people can be made to “turn”?

    The more these people talk, the more it becomes clear that they operate under a lot of misunderstanding and unwarranted fear. That’s really a shame.

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    • 24. JonT  |  July 21, 2010 at 7:28 pm

      Hehe – yes, I caught that too. I was like ‘Huh’? So he was straight, then decided one day to become a ‘ghey’.

      Then when that didn’t work out, he decided to ‘switch’ to being straight again.

      Neat trick. He should write a book about that.

      And I loved his requirements for a future girlfriend: ‘Female, breathing’.

      Huh. Just can’t make this shit up.

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      • 25. Kathleen  |  July 21, 2010 at 7:34 pm

        I’m sure the problem the guy’s having in finding someone is the third prerequisite – the one he wasn’t willing to put on camera:: #3 She must be willing to get married to a gay man.

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      • 26. JonT  |  July 21, 2010 at 7:42 pm

        @Kathleen: hehe, as usual – cuts right to the point :)

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      • 27. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  July 21, 2010 at 7:44 pm

        You are so right, Kathleen. And with full marriage equality as close as it is finally getting, he won’t even find a closeted lesbian who is willing to live that lie anymore. And yes, I have been there, done that. we were both fresh from high school. I guess that was the other thing that ruined the marriage. We were too young to know how badly we would hurt each other.

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    • 28. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  July 21, 2010 at 7:29 pm

      And when is he going to stop lying to himself and everyone else about his sexual orientation? Every word he spoke sounded like a Gucci pocketbook!
      Also, I wonder if anyone else has picked up on the fact that BB does NOT know how to count. The last time I checked, not only were there 50 states in the US, but one of the stops on this tour is not a city, per se, but a district. So how is this a NATIONWIDE tour, if it is only going to 19 out of 50 states, 22 cities, and one district? That sounds more like a regional, limited tour than a nationwide tour. That is like a musical act touring the United States and calling it a World Tour.
      Of course, the folks at NOM have never been well known for their proper use or understanding of logic.

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    • 29. Lesbians Love Boies  |  July 21, 2010 at 7:33 pm

      Firstly, (unlike some folks, I agree, the images on the bus being stock photos are not a deal at all – big or small…at least for me. I use stock images every day.) I don’t have any part in that argument.

      But, let’s go to 1:19 into the video. Brian points out to the interviewer to look around after talking about the fake families on the bus…”The people here, if you want to show – everyone are real…and we’re real…” pointing to himself.

      To Brian Brown I say “I am real too! And, I am not going away either, and even I am going to stand up for marriage.”

      Then around 4:11 Brian is speaking again:

      “You can’t attack people and dehumanize them, and then expect for there not to be any, to be no consequences.”

      Mr Brown, I am with you on that one. Don’t attack me and don’t dehumanize me. You seem to not realize you are doing this every day to millions of LGBT citizens.

      Now to VRAlbany’s question. That man wasn’t gay…he was curious or bi.

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      • 30. VRAlbany  |  July 22, 2010 at 12:02 pm

        LLB,
        I’m inclined to agree with your assessment of him.
        Sexual orientation is a much more complicated thing and occurs on more levels than just gay/straight. For people in the middle of that spectrum, life can be really confusing. And when those people are exposed to to schools of thought that teach fear and disdain for anything outside of “the norm”, we sometimes end up with people like Captain PFOX there…

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  • 31. Lesbians Love Boies  |  July 21, 2010 at 9:14 pm

    Vito Oliver’s response to the lies Brian Brown and NOM have been saying about him. He is very sincere.

    And as PamC mentioned earlier the bottles were filled with dried beans, not rocks like NOM is saying.

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  • […] NOM gigs was paltry (to say the least), no matter where they traveled. From Maine to Wisconsin to New Jersey, gay rights activists holding counter demonstrations routinely outnumbered NOM activists. Equality, […]

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