NOM NOM NOMing through more coverage of NOM’s first day on tour in California

September 28, 2010 at 10:00 am 144 comments

By Adam Bink

Column as I see ’em:

  • I didn’t have a chance to write this last night, but my first thought on day one of the tour is that NOM is just incredibly lazy. For those who have knocked on doors in an electoral campaign, you know the value of targeting — you target your persuadables and your lean voters, for example. You don’t just walk into your local farmacia and start talking to people — it’s an inefficient use of time. They might not even be U.S. citizens.

Except that’s what NOM is doing. Nearly all of their stops are in random parks all over the state where there could be anyone — from a group of ex-convicts to the local weekly gay book club meeting. Yesterday night’s stop was at an On The Border, a Tex-Mex restaurant chain filled with… wait for it… white folks. One stop, tomorrow morning, is at the Jelly Belly factory. Is this some Latino tourist hotbed and we just don’t know it yet?

One commenter wrote last night why we’re doing this if no one shows up. This is exactly why we’re doing it — to show how this is a waste of people’s time and money. It’s lazy organizing and part of the reason we’re doing this so they never again can get that $1 million to launch a campaign that includes a fancy bus tour with paid staff. Or be the largest single contributor to Yes on 1 in Maine. Or run misleading but effective ads during the Prop 8 fight. On and on.

  • Speaking of Jelly Belly, we here at P8TT/NTT are officially inquiring into what exactly the company thinks of this tour stop on their property, as well as their positions on LGBT equality, Prop 8, and the like. Stay tuned.
  • Here’s the first on-the-road video produced by the Vota Tus Valores team. It looks like it was filmed by a hummingbird observing the scene.
  • P8TT/NTT friend Karen Ocamb has her take on the first day, including more background on Alfonso Aguilar and our old friend Brian Brown’s statement on the tour.
  • Yesterday, NOM filed a lawsuit that would allow it to flaunt Rhode Island’s election laws by running ads (targeting the gubernatorial race, where two pro-marriage equality candidates, Frank Caprio and Lincoln Chafee, are leading in the polls) without disclosing contributors or complying with spending laws. It is pretty remarkable how much they spend on legal fees, given the numerous lawsuits of this nature they’re filed in several states, not to mention ethics violations in places like Maine.
  • The silence from @NOMTweets and the NOM blog on the California tour sure is deafening. I don’t see a single post or tweet in the last week, at least. Do they not want to be closely associated with a mess?
  • They did find time last night to trumpet their several days-old “dynamite” amicus brief filing in the 9th Circuit, though. My favorite line:

They want this court to short-circuit the hard task of persuading their fellow citizens that their unions ARE marriages, by asking this court to re-educate the voters and re-assign the meaning of a word.

To which I respond with the quote of the year in my book:

“Most people use the term “judicial activism” to explain decisions they don’t like.” — Ted Olson, August 8, 2010

  • We’ll have coverage today from our NOM Tour Tracker team at the events — if you can call them that — at the State Capitol in Sacramento, along with Yuba City, Davis (just before tonight’s California gubernatorial debate), and elsewhere. Coverage from the first three stops will be up late this afternoon, and from the last three stops this evening.

Entry filed under: NOM Exposed, NOM Tour Tracker-California, Right-wing.

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144 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Jonathan H  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:06 am

    How’d you do that, Kate? I see you drumming your fingers, and then there’s a new post!

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    • 2. Lesbians Love Boies  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:11 am

      subscribing

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      • 3. AndrewPDX  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:02 pm

        subscribing… late to the party

        Liberty, Equality, Fraternity
        Andrew

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      • 4. JonT  |  September 28, 2010 at 3:40 pm

        Need more data.

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      • 5. Rhie  |  September 28, 2010 at 9:42 pm

        Subbing

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    • 6. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:21 am

      I had no idea I had such powers! Good to know, for future use.

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      • 7. Chris in Lathrop  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:46 am

        “With great power comes great responsibility…”

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      • 8. Ann S.  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:47 am

        Please use them for good and not evil!

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      • 9. Chris in Lathrop  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:48 pm

        “Please use them for good and not evil!”

        But, teh DARK side has teh COOKEEZ!

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  • 10. Rich  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:10 am

    Sacramento stop appeared to be all staffers. It helps if you block a sidewalk next to the Capitol so that anyone walking by makes it look like you have more numbers.

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    • 11. Lora  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:59 am

      I loved how the people walking and biking around the capital were trying to use the sidewalk, but kept having to dodge the NOM people…so they just walked in front of them and their “press conference”. For their “press conference” they used their bus as a backdrop…you’re at the freakin’ capital building…don’t you think that would have made a better one?? You can take pictures of your bus any day.

      One guy passed me, did a “thumbs down” and asked, “who are they talking to?”

      They just kept re-arranging their staff, taking pictures, handing literature to each other and interviewing each other. It was laughable!

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      • 12. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:04 am

        Did you hear any Spanish between them? Love the image of them handing each other literature. I guess they only need a few copies of each item that way. It can just keep making the same rounds among them. Could you tell if there was any literature in Spanish?

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      • 13. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:07 am

        PS to Lora: Glad to hear you weren’t trampled by the crowd.

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      • 14. Lora  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:57 am

        I, personally, didn’t hear them speaking to each other in Spanish, nor did I see any of their literature in Spanish. What I did see was in English, though I didn’t want to get too close to them for fear of them counting me as one of their supporters….although my “Won’t Back Down” HRC tshirt should have been a clue!

        Their “press conference”, as someone else mentioned was in English, not Spanish…kinda defeats the purpose, no??

        Most of the time they tried to give their literature away, people just shook their head and kept on walking.
        I did see one of the guys trying to chase down a group of Asians out for a power-walk around the capital…???

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      • 15. Lora  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:58 am

        PS to Kate: Thanks for your concerns for my safety! LOL

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      • 16. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:00 pm

        I did see one of the guys trying to chase down a group of Asians out for a power-walk around the capital…???

        Oh, good! I speak some Mandarin, too. Bring on the next tour bus.

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  • 17. Ronnie  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:19 am

    NOM NOM NOM ..na na…NOM NOM….

    NOM NOM NOM ..na na…NOM NOM….

    Na naaaaaa….NOM…..

    Na naaaaaaaa….NOM…..

    Na Na Na Na NOM…..TEQUILA!!!!!!

    ; ) …..Ronnie

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    • 18. AndrewPDX  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:04 pm

      Mmm… Tequila!

      Liberty, Equality, Fraternity
      Andrew

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  • 19. BradK  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:20 am

    Never mind the epic waste of time and money — though NOM seems to have no shortage of either. What about the carbon footprint of driving that monstrosity around an already polluted state? In the middle of a record-breaking heat wave coupled with nearly a perfect zero attendance record?

    If NOM Tour I was “out of the mainstream and into the airstream”, they should bill NOM Tour II as, “out of the airstream and into the oxygen tent”.

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  • 20. Alan E.  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:21 am

    I wish I could be at any of these stops instead of doing inventory at our warehouse. The auditor is due any minute now!

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    • 21. Chris in Lathrop  |  September 28, 2010 at 2:46 pm

      I have to be at work for my local stops, too. :(

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  • 22. Sagesse  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:24 am

    Patiently waiting for today’s non-evnts.

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  • 23. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:25 am

    Uh….. so why are they speaking English when they do manage to round up some bribed attendees? Maybe because their spoken Spanish is as bad as their written?

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    • 24. Jonathan H  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:32 am

      Now really, Kate, if you’re going to come over here and take our jobs and live in this country the least you can do is learn the language!

      That’s why I’m studying Cherokee.

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      • 25. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:44 am

        LOL
        Love that!!
        I think I will use that next time someone uses that line about ‘our language’
        Bravo Jonathan!!

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      • 26. Chris in Lathrop  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:47 am

        Department of Homeland Security: Fighting terrorism since 1492.

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      • 27. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:48 am

        @Chris in Lathrop

        I made and sold a lot of t-shirts with that slogan (and photo of Geronimo and pals)

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      • 28. Chris in Lathrop  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:52 am

        @Kate

        That’s where I got it! Too cool! :)

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      • 29. Jonathan H  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:23 am

        Fighting terrorism since 1492.

        Remember the anthrax in the mail about eight years back? I’m imagining a painfully stereotypical native, feather headdress, facepaint, the works, sitting at a desk like a news anchor and saying “The Department of Homeland Security refused to comment this morning on allegations that the smallpox infected blankets were distributed by a Christian extremist faction funded by several White Man nations…”

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    • 30. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:34 am

      Maybe those folks in the hummingbird video thought the tour people would be passing out cookies or something to make it worth walking on over to the bus.

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      • 31. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:43 am

        I also just noticed that their bus was parked in the shade at this stop…… makes sense to me that that’s where they’d find someone, anyone, to count as attending.

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  • 32. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:36 am

    Ha ha, Jonathan H! I love you. But what makes this whole language thing even funnier is that my Spanish is limited only to survival Spanish, and even I can spot their egregious errors. Imagine what the folks who are fluent can find.

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    • 33. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:36 am

      Damn. Wrong place again.

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    • 34. Kathleen  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:49 am

      I going to subscribe here, next to Kate, which is never the wrong place to be. :)

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      • 35. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:50 am

        I love you, Kathleen!

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      • 36. Kathleen  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:57 am

        It’s mutual. :)

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      • 37. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:01 am

        Good morning Kathleen :-)

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      • 38. Kathleen  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:44 pm

        Good afternoon, Mark. I’m a bit slow getting going today – another day of awful heat, though expected to get to ‘only’ 97 :)

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    • 39. Jonathan H  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:09 am

      D’aww, you make me blush!

      As to the Spanish, I suspect it’s pretty bad. I’m hoping Gregory in SLC can get us some more detailed translations later. And really, I was expecting that sort of thing the moment I heard about the tour, because it’s so like them. I mean, it’s just completely in character for them to cover the whole thing with tacky “Look! It’s Mexican!” crap that’s clueless not only about Mexican culture, but American culture as well.

      I’d have been genuinely surprised if they’d actually bothered to get one of the tens of millions of fluent Spanish speakers in this country to do their translations. It would have suggested competence.

      They remind me of cargo cults; putting on the decorations and moving through the rituals without understanding or even trying to understand how things work.

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      • 40. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:18 am

        I was curious about one of the pics on their Vota site that showed a big spit of meat being carved, and looked like what *I* see in Greek diners all the time, but have never noticed in a Mexican place. Is that meat thing common? I thought it was for gyros, and they had just put it in there because it was “ethnic”.

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      • 41. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:22 am

        I wondered about that meat photo, too, Anonygrl. I think it was nothing but a poor choice of clip art. It certainly isn’t representative of carne asada or of any other typically-Mexican wise use of meat photo.

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      • 42. rf  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:36 am

        I didn’t see the meat on a spit pic, but it sounds very Spanish to me–not Mexican. Its possibly Portuguese too (not sure, have much more experience with Spanish restaurants). So maybe they’re including South Americans in their messaging (Argentina/ maybe Brazil) or someone just did a search for Spanish and food and came up with it.

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      • 43. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:44 am

        And while there may be some Spanish, Brazillian or Argentinian folk around, one would think the majority of their message to Hispanic folk in California would probably be aimed at the Mexican culture, wouldn’t one?

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      • 44. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:47 am

        Eeeew…..the meat comment….. I digress…

        Jonathan H (and Kate) I see about getting some translation analysis (via my very scholarly partner of course!) from their website and post tonight .

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      • 45. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:50 am

        Gregory… would your very scholarly partner be interested in helping FeedEquality.org out with some translations? We are thinking about getting some of our materials into Spanish… and need a scholarly translator who can volunteer, as we have no funding.

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      • 46. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:50 am

        eeew ….reading as I eat my vegetarian salad….

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      • 47. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:58 am

        Anongrl… He would certainly be perfect for the job and glad to do pro bono work. He is private for legitimate reasons so how could we arrange?

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      • 48. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:59 am

        p.s. I LOVE you to! Anongrl!

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      • 49. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:02 pm

        @rf

        That would be even funnier — Brazilian food, but bad Spanish on the bus instead of bad Portuguese! This just gets better and better.

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      • 50. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:47 pm

        Gregory,

        Please send me email at anonygrl@aol.com (which is a blown open address at this point anyway…) and I will email you back with a better one.

        Thanks!

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      • 51. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:00 pm

        Got it Anonygrl!!! HUGS!

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      • 52. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:06 pm

        HUGS to you too, Gregory! And to your legitimately secretive Spanish speaking scholar!! :)

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      • 53. AndrewPDX  |  September 28, 2010 at 2:04 pm

        Re: Meat on a Spit…
        Having not looked at the picture, just reading your descriptions, it may be al pastor, which I often order at Mexican restaurants when it’s offered. You can read more on Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_pastor, complete with a photo.

        Liberty, Equality, Fraternity
        Andrew

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  • 54. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:16 am

    I’m feeling left out! I need some Kate and Kathleen loving!

    LOVE YOU GUYS! (and everybody else too!)

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    • 55. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:18 am

      hugs, love, smooches, Anonygrl!

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      • 56. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:19 am

        Thanks! I feel better now! Smooches, hugs and love right back at you!

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      • 57. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:20 am

        PS — Now come get some of these eggs. My chickens are overwhelming me.

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      • 58. Kathleen  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:35 am

        You’ve got it! There’s plenty of LOVE to go around. :) xoxoxo

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    • 59. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:46 am

      XOXOXOXO Kathleen. And Kate, if I could get there, I’d be there already. Just need that big lottery win so I can afford to travel more…

      :)

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  • 60. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:20 am

    GROUP HUG!!

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    • 61. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:24 am

      I want US to have a bus (an ecologically-sane one) and a tour. What fun we’d have together!

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      • 62. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:27 am

        We’d need several of our ecologically-sane buses to accommodate all the terrific folks here.

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      • 63. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:39 am

        I love the idea. Could you bring a couple of cages with chickens along, so we could have fresh eggs every morning. Plus ammunition if we ever crossed paths with El Autobús del Fracaso (best I could come up with for FAILbus in Spanish, it translates to “the bus of failure.”)

        We could call ours “El autobús del amor” Tour.

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      • 64. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:48 am

        Done!

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    • 65. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:32 am

      HUGS FOR YOU MARK!!!

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      • 66. Bob  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:48 am

        if we had a bus, rather than stop in parks, we’d find all the really hot clubs these folks party in, and boggie with them while explaining how we’re allies, and Nombies are a NONO.

        Maybe we could convince Ricky Martin, to get the message across.

        At the very least we could start a network, in our local clubs to talk with the latinos there, find a rallying point, which I think someone mentioned earlier, the Church is just using them for votes, but they got to convince their families if they support the gays, we’ll help them cause our goal is equality for all.

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      • 67. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:51 am

        Very true, Bob. That is the message!

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      • 68. Lesbians Love Boies  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:09 pm

        Standing way in the background – but participating in the group hug. Just came in from ‘attempting’ a run – but it’s already 95° out and now I am sticky and sweaty. 20 second hugs are the best BTW!

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      • 69. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:08 pm

        I’ll take a hot and sweaty 20 second hug!

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      • 70. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  September 28, 2010 at 3:08 pm

        Thanks!
        :-)

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    • 71. Kathleen  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:36 am

      I’ve definitely got to get in on this group HUG!!! xoxox

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    • 72. Chris in Lathrop  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:51 am

      Group hug? I’m in! :)

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    • 73. Ann S.  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:00 pm

      I want in the group hug!

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      • 74. Dpeck  |  September 28, 2010 at 4:26 pm

        If I may just squeeze in… right…. Here. Wheee!

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    • 75. Jonathan H  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:06 pm

      Ok, getting in on the group hug! And now shutting down the internet for at least two hours to try to be productive.

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  • 76. Mark  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:57 am

    I just spoke with the Jelly Belly factory public relations department. They have no relationship or partnership with this bus tour, and it was a complete surprise to them that the NOM-like tour had chosen their gift shop as a stop. Jelly Belly reiterated that they are a diverse supportive organization that welcomes *everyone* and would never, ever give approval for this to happen on their lot.

    It’ll be interesting to watch this tomorrow. The hate bus would of course be allowed to roll into the JB parking lot, but when they start lobbying, that must be stopped of course.

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    • 77. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:59 am

      Can someone from a local news outlet be apprised of that situation? And can Jelly Belly be warned that the news will be there, so they should be prepared to evict the hatemongers on camera, which looks GREAT for Jelly Belly?

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      • 78. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:02 pm

        Further… is there any way to check if they have permits for ANY of their stops at public locations? And permission at any of the non-public locations? We might be able to get them shut down most everywhere they go.

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      • 79. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:07 pm

        Anonygril — tell folks how to FB you or otherwise move this off-site for now……..

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      • 80. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:10 pm

        I can’t FB from work. I can barely get in here. I will table this till I get home.

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      • 81. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:10 pm

        Anonygrl — Can you post a throwaway e-mail? This really is important right now……..

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      • 82. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:23 pm

        I really can’t… they control stuff carefully. You know my real first name… use that @feedequality.org and I THINK I can get at it from here.

        I will go look for mail from you now.

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      • 83. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:25 pm

        I was actually meaning it so that others, who don’t know your name, can contact you if they are near Fairfield and can help with the news thing.

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      • 84. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:27 pm

        I can get into the feedequality.org mail now… so send something there.

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      • 85. Lesbians Love Boies  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:28 pm

        Anonygrl, if you don’t want to give out yours, I can always create a new one news@feedequality.org.

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      • 86. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:29 pm

        OH! I can’t really do much of anything from work. When I get home I will check in… that’s the best I can do, really. All I can do from here is read this site (and hope I don’t get caught) and try to avoid my boss looking over my shoulder.

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      • 87. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:11 pm

        Gotcha, Anonygrl. You stay safe — we need you.

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    • 88. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:06 pm

      This is terrific news, Mark. Your work on this subject is greatly appreciated. Has anyone received a response to their e-mails from yesterday? I have not yet. Anonygrl will be especially pleased to learn that her confection-related monies will not need to be diverted. (Or was that NIghtshadye? I always mix you two up……)

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      • 89. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:09 pm

        I just received mine:

        Dear Kate,

        Thank you for taking the time to write; we appreciate hearing your thoughts and concerns.

        We were unaware of the “National Organization for Marriage” coming to visit prior to several emails that we received. We do not accept reservations for our free tours and tour buses often stop here for our free public tours. We have not rented any of our facilities for this group and no event or rally will be held here.

        Thank you for being among our special Jelly Belly fans. We value your patronage.

        Sincerely,
        Erin
        Consumer Affairs Representative

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      • 90. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:12 pm

        Home Run Mark and Kate! Woot!!

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      • 91. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:14 pm

        Wasn’t me. Much as I enjoy a good buttered popcorn or juicy pear flavored jelly bean from time to time, I think it must have been Nightshayde.

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      • 92. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:16 pm

        My response (and I hope everyone who receives one will answer with their thanks):

        Dear Erin:

        Thank you very much for your encouraging response. I am delighted to hear that I will be able to continue to enjoy my Jelly Bellies! The National Organization for Marriage is publicly annoucing a tour stop at your location, and news of that is rapidly spreading throughout the Equal Rights community online. I’d like to suggest that your PR department issue an equally-public refutal of NOM’s attempt to use your facilities and good name in order to head off any possible boycotts.

        Appreciatively,

        Kate

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      • 93. Lesbians Love Boies  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:19 pm

        Oh – Good – thank you Kate and everyone. I already feel better and will need to go get a bucketful of tutti fruitti to celebrate!

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      • 94. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 12:20 pm

        For those who didn’t write an e-mail to Jelly Belly but who would like to express their appreciation now (please do), the contact info is:

        webqa@jellybelly.com
        Erin
        Consumer Affairs Representative

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      • 95. adambink  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:36 pm

        Hey everyone, we’re waiting on an official statement from their spokeswoman. I’d also like to see them ask NOM to leave tomorrow morning. Stay tuned.

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      • 96. Lesbians Love Boies  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:45 pm

        That would be great Adam. I am seeing many people on facebook who also sent JB emails are getting the same responses!

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      • 97. ChrisB  |  September 28, 2010 at 9:19 pm

        I got the same response as everyone else. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the morning.

        Also, someone mentioned above that the NOM bus will be allowed to roll into the parking lot, but I’m not 100% sure that’s the case. The JB parking lot is private property, and the company can bar them from even entering, I would think, if they know that the bus is there for a rally and not the free tour and gift shop. Of course they can’t prevent the NOMmers from doing going on the tour or shopping, unless they create a disturbance.

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    • 98. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:24 pm

      I just heard from them too…..here is what they wrote:

      Mark,

      Thank you for taking the time to write; we appreciate hearing your thoughts and concerns.

      We were unaware of the “National Organization for Marriage” coming to visit prior to several emails that we received. We do not accept reservations for our free tours and tour buses often stop here for our free public tours. We have not rented any of our facilities for this group and no event or rally will be held here.

      Thank you again for writing.

      Sincerely,

      Kit McCoy
      Consumer Affairs Manager

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      • 99. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:25 pm

        Ummmm…that was suppose to go above under Mark’s post about Jelly Bellies

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      • 100. Ann S.  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:41 pm

        When Jelly Belly says “no event or rally will be held here” I hope that they are willing to enforce that, as is their right.

        It’s extremely rude, to say the least, of NOM to announce that they are holding a rally in JB’s parking lot without even asking for permission. Not to mention that they are using JB’s name to promote their own cause, as they did with “On the Border”.

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      • 101. Lesbians Love Boies  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:43 pm

        I think that is par for the course for NOM – they assume their money can buy them anything!

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      • 102. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:45 pm

        “Tomorrow belongs to them……”

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      • 103. Kathleen  |  September 28, 2010 at 3:15 pm

        I also think they assume they’re totally mainstream and that most people and the vast majority of businesses must embrace their vision of the world. While it may not be the case that a majority of businesses are willing to make a public pro-equality statement, very few businesses are willing to endorse these rabid anti-equality organizations. It’s just bad for business.

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  • 104. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  September 28, 2010 at 11:58 am

    I feel all warm and fuzzy now :-)
    Thanks!!!

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    • 105. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:45 pm

      The above warm and fuzzy was to go above under “group hug’….not sure why they are all dropping down like this :-(

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      • 106. Lesbians Love Boies  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:46 pm

        Hugs Mark M.

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      • 107. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  September 28, 2010 at 4:09 pm

        Thanks LLB :-)
        Hugs to you and yours as well

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      • 108. Rhie  |  September 28, 2010 at 10:00 pm

        Missed the group hug so…HUGS!

        Reply
  • 109. bonobo  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:47 pm

    Okay, so we’re leaving in 1/2 hour and heading in Willows. Since we’re expecting a lot of down time (we should arrive around 2:30) Mom is bringing her crochet and I’m trying to decide what book to bring. The choices are: Front Runner, Curious Wine, one of the Gay Wedding planners (I’m an Internet Preacher & like to be prepared) or Malice in Maggody. I’ve got my camera, and since we’re not aware of anyone meeting us, we’ll go straight to the park. I’ll be the blonde with the watch on. Has anyone else noticed that no one wears watches anymore? Can’t blog from there, it’s a farming community so not sure about local access. But then… maybe Starbucks.
    We’ll let you know what we see. Or not see.

    Bo

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    • 110. Lesbians Love Boies  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:49 pm

      Oh, can’t wait for the post and pics Bo. Funny @ the watch…I personally have never worn one (even before cell phones).

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      • 111. Anonygrl  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:53 pm

        When I am stage managing, I am never without a watch… usually a big black clunky looking Timex sport watch with a stop watch and a countdown timer, both incredibly useful in my line of work.

        I never ever wear it when I am not stage managing.

        Oh… wait… I do. When I am scuba diving, I have to wear it. But otherwise, I use my cell phone anymore.

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    • 112. Ann S.  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:53 pm

      I’ll be looking for your updates!

      Love,
      Brunette with watch on

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  • 113. bonobo  |  September 28, 2010 at 1:48 pm

    subscribing

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  • 114. Carrie  |  September 28, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    I called Jelly belly to ask if they were supporting NOM and their stop/rally at their gift shop. The consumer affairs manager said that they were not contacted to put this rally on, and the only way they were informed of it was through emails from upset customers. She then emailed me an official statement from corporate and gave me permission to post their official statement on blogs online.

    Carrie,

    Thank you again so much for taking the time to verify the alleged “NOM Rally”. Following is the company’s response to inquiries we are receiving:

    We were unaware of the “National Organization for Marriage” coming to visit prior to several emails that we received. We do not accept reservations for our free tours and tour buses often stop here for our free public tours. We have not rented any of our facilities for this group and no event or rally will be held here.

    Jelly Belly does not allow any group to promote their special interests, pass out flyers, or approach our visitors for their own interests at our public tours. We appreciate your offer to share with your blog community.

    I can email the statement to anyone who would like a copy to post on a blog.

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  • 115. Carrie  |  September 28, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    Oh and Kit McCoy said that NOM was contacted by Jelly Belly and NOM made it out as though their stop tomorrow was just to take their people on a tour of the Jelly Belly location.

    They lie every time they turn around.

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    • 116. Lesbians Love Boies  |  September 28, 2010 at 2:41 pm

      Wow, thanks for the info Carrie. I wonder if NOM is still planning on showing up. Anyone from P8TT planning on being there?

      Reply
    • 117. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 2:45 pm

      Yeah, like the advertised stop at On the Border was just a dinner meeting.

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      • 118. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 3:16 pm

        Maybe they’d be wise to paint out “Roseville” and “Fairfield” on their tour stops map on their bus with a big red X. (You know, Dos Equis…….. tee hee hee)

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      • 119. Laura O.  |  September 28, 2010 at 3:18 pm

        They drive by two other On The Border locations (Elk Grove & Natomas) to get to Roseville.

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      • 120. Laura O.  |  September 28, 2010 at 3:21 pm

        **drove

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    • 121. Chris in Lathrop  |  September 28, 2010 at 2:50 pm

      Lies are not family values. :P

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      • 122. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  September 28, 2010 at 3:12 pm

        Manson Family values maybe…..
        :-)

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      • 123. Chris in Lathrop  |  September 28, 2010 at 3:39 pm

        Hey! Great idea! We could see if Marilyn Manson wanted to back us up! ;)

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  • 124. Dpeck  |  September 28, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    Hi all! My home PC is now back up and running, and I have a report (such as it is) of one of the NOM BUSted tour stops.

    Earlier today (Tuesday 9/28) NOM was scheduled to stop in Alameda, CA. Alameda is located adjacent to Oakland, across the bay from San Francisco. But the specific location of the tour stop was really weird. It was supposed to be at an old abandoned military base at the west end of Alameda Island. The only thing out there is a couple of makeshift soccer fields near the entrance and a hell of a lot of mothballed govorment buildings. And the whole facility is located at the very far end of a long dead-end road. It’s very remote.

    So I arrived early and drove around the public areas and saw no sign of NOM (or anyone else). I then parked at the entrance to the complex and set up a couple of very large pro-equality signs, including a nice blue and white “Liberty and Justice for All” sign I got from AFER, that was handed out to the crowds during the celebration of the Prop8 trial ruling.

    I waited until well past the time they would have had to leave in order to make it to their next stop, and never saw any sign of them entering or leaving (there’s only one way in or out).

    So they “pulled a Phelps”. A no-show. Please insert sad trombone sound here. I’m interested to see what they have to say about this tour stop. I bet it was a ‘great success’.

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    • 125. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 4:46 pm

      Glad you’re back Dpeck! I can hardly wait to read the spin they put on the “stop” you attended. Good job!

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      • 126. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 4:49 pm

        Oh, Dpeck! I just looked at their official tour stop site, and the Alameda stop is TOMORROW (Weds.) But maybe you’d best camp out there tonight so you’ll be sure to have a place close to the front, you know, with all the crowds that will show up at that weird location you described.

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      • 127. Ann S.  |  September 28, 2010 at 4:55 pm

        I think I’ve been out there to tour the USS Hornet. We had a great tour guide and it was really fascinating. We got to sleep over as part of a Girl Scout event. It’s hard to get much sleep in a bunk surrounded by all the pings and other noises a metal ship makes when occupied by a lot of people, though. Still, it was worth it for the tour.

        The USS Hornet is the ship that picked up the astronauts returning from the first successful moon landing. There are footprints painted on one of the decks that are supposed to represent Neil Armstrong’s first footsteps back on earth, as he walked from the lunar module to the isolation unit they made them stay in for a couple of weeks to make sure they were really healthy and weren’t going to contaminate all of earth with moon germs or something. The isolation unit is a converted Airstream trailer.

        Sorry for the off-topic teal deer.

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      • 128. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 4:58 pm

        Very interesting, Ann. I love what I learn here OT. Any chance they might rent that isolation module Airstream out for the next NOM fiasco?

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      • 129. Ann S.  |  September 28, 2010 at 5:03 pm

        Kate, LOL! I don’t think I’d trust these clowns with such a treasure, but surely we can rig up a facsimile?

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    • 130. Kathleen  |  September 28, 2010 at 4:49 pm

      Their online schedule says the Alameda stop is tomorrow. Did they change it from Tuesday?

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      • 131. Dpeck  |  September 28, 2010 at 5:02 pm

        ….. DOH ! !

        : /

        Dammit. I’m not sure if I can get out there again tomorrow.

        Ah, nothing quite like doing something lame on the friggen internet so the whole world can see it : )

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      • 132. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 5:06 pm

        But for such a cause! I think this is truly admirable. You’re the only one commited enough to attend TWICE.

        Ann, merit badge, please.

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      • 133. Ann S.  |  September 28, 2010 at 5:19 pm

        Dpeck, you are hereby awarded merit badges for Enthusiasm, Commitment, and Bringing the Correct Supplies.

        Wear them with Pride!

        Let us know if you make it tomorrow. And don’t forget what I said about the USS Hornet! Everyone should visit it before it runs out of funds and shuts down. It’s not easy to find, though, the signage is poor.

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      • 134. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 5:27 pm

        ooooohhh — the coveted Bringing the Correct Supplies badge. I am SO impressed!

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      • 135. Ann S.  |  September 28, 2010 at 5:37 pm

        Kate, that one is not given out lightly, let me tell you. It was the saving and bringing of signs that did it.

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      • 136. Kate  |  September 28, 2010 at 5:38 pm

        I recognized that immediately, Ann. Very impressed! Dpeck has most assuredly earned that rarely-given badge.

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    • 137. AndrewPDX  |  September 28, 2010 at 4:50 pm

      Awesome job, DPeck!

      If they had problems finding Alameda, maybe they should have asked for the nuclear vessels….

      Liberty, Equality, Fraternity
      Andrew

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      • 138. Ann S.  |  September 28, 2010 at 5:17 pm

        LOL, love that one, although they moved the Monterey Bay Aquarium to Sausalito and ran the Muni to Marin County and a few other geographically weird things.

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      • 139. Felyx  |  September 28, 2010 at 6:53 pm

        OMG!!! Andrew, that is the Bomb!!! Sooooo funny! I tell Kyrill about this scene all the time as an example of how Americans view Russians (in the media etc.)

        I met Nichelle twice, she told an audience once that this scene was filmed ‘on location’ without professional support actors. The cop you see in the clip is supposedly a real cop along with all the other people you see. (I am not sure about the passer by that has dialog though.)

        Love, Felyx

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      • 140. JonT  |  September 28, 2010 at 6:56 pm

        You mean nuclear wessles.

        Every time I hear Alameda, I think of that line in Star Trek 4 :)

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  • 141. fern  |  September 28, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    I’m listening to the debate with Boxer and Fiorina.
    Both seem to be reading texts, they seem to know most of the questions beforehand.
    I once saw a real debate within a party, nothing like you see, but later on the press caught on with it and the party decided to show the video of the debate, I saw this too, but what I never saw during the debate was the the press asking questions, as to my knowledge there was no press there it was members only (my friend was – I’m no member of anything), so I saw a televised show edited and published that was different from what I saw and heard.
    Why do I like the courage campaign ?
    because you’re rocking the boat of some too smug people used to just put a band aid on the sinking ship.
    My hope is that through education only the best comes out of us and build a new ship, it can only be done through education.
    After you’ve won SSM please keep fighting for education for the poorest, you’ll have to convince them but think of it this way; if gang leaders defy the FBI they must have the brains to do it with no education it means they have brains that could be put to better use.
    all I’m writing has happened to me. When I’ll feel like it again I’ll write another little story. I hope it cheers you up.

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  • 142. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  September 28, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    Will Catch up later.

    Reply
  • […] Yesterday I wrote that we at P8TT/NTT were inquiring into whether Jelly Belly condoned NOM’s stop at their Fairfield factory headquarters, which will be this morning at 9:30 AM PST. Several of you wrote in and received responses. For example, Kate’s inquiry received back: Dear Kate, […]

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  • […] Yesterday I wrote that we at P8TT/NTT were inquiring into whether Jelly Belly condoned NOM’s stop at their Fairfield factory headquarters, which will be this morning at 9:30 AM PST. Several of you wrote in and received responses. For example, Kate’s inquiry received back: Dear Kate, […]

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