With Prop 8 case hearing in 9th Circuit fast approaching, Courage launches “The Wedding Matters Month”

November 10, 2010 at 2:09 pm 34 comments

by Andy Kelley
New Media Organizer, Courage Campaign

With the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals preparing to hear arguments in the Prop 8 case on December 6, we’re proud to present “The Wedding Matters Month” — a people-powered project launched by the Courage Campaign Institute’s Entertainment Industry Equality Team earlier this year. In just one day, 38 videos about the meaning of marriage equality were produced by 119 volunteers on a budget of $1,600.

Over the course of the next month, we will be featuring these videos on the Testimony: Equality On Trial fanpage. As we here at the Prop 8 Trial Track continue to look towards the hearing with hope, it is important to be reminded that beyond the legalese and day to day developments of this trial, that there is one simple message we must share if we are to change hearts and minds: “The Wedding Matters.”

Paul and Joe were married on July 25, 2008, and their story is the first installment of the Wedding Matters Month:

We hope you enjoy this project, and that you have as much fun watching the videos as we have. We will continue to bring you the highlights throughout the month, but would encourage you to join us on Facebook to view the full collection.

You can also watch this in-depth “Making of…” video to see how the Courage Campaign’s volunteer-driven Entertainment Industry Equality Team did it and how Valerie Alexander’s experience at our Camp Courage Los Angeles training in 2009 became the genesis of this emotionally moving project:

Entry filed under: Testimony, Videos.

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34 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Lesbians Love Boies  |  November 10, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    Love it.

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    • 2. Ronnie  |  November 10, 2010 at 2:15 pm

      Me too…..<3…Ronnie

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      • 3. Ronnie  |  November 10, 2010 at 2:16 pm

        click on the notify box before the submit box….lol…<3…Ronnie

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        • 4. Alan E.  |  November 10, 2010 at 4:24 pm

          Clicking the box, to. More work to do.

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  • 5. Kathleen  |  November 10, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    Great project.

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    • 6. Ann S.  |  November 10, 2010 at 2:33 pm

      I agree!

      ;)

      Reply
  • […] – The Prop 8 appeals trial is coming up fast (December) and the Courage Campaign has launched a new video project discussing the meaning of Marriage Equality. What is it? What does […]

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  • 8. Sagesse  |  November 10, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Scribing to watch later.

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    • 9. JonT  |  November 10, 2010 at 2:28 pm

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  • 10. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  November 10, 2010 at 2:31 pm

    Nice project…but a shame it wasn’t opened up to include all submissions.

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  • 11. Kathleen  |  November 10, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    From NPR Morning Edition “Renee Montagne will interview Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
    at 3:30 PST/ 6:30 EST today at UCLA’s Burkle Center. We’re not airing the interview but you can watch it live on the Admiral’s Facebook page.”

    That’s 3:30 PST and here’s the link for his page
    http://tinyurl.com/2334wfz

    Sorry, don’t know of sources for the non-facebook folks.

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  • 12. Manilow  |  November 10, 2010 at 3:16 pm

    we should put all these interviews/stories on a disc and mail it to Maggie and Brian.

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    • 13. BK  |  November 11, 2010 at 1:28 am

      Too bad there’s no way to make them watch… unless we tie them to a chair and hold their eyes open. Even then they’ll probably figure out a way to ignore what they’re watching. People like Maggie & Brian used to sicken me (oh, their actions still do.), but now they just confuse me. How are these people… people?

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  • 14. Richard A. Walter (soon to be Walter-Jernigan)  |  November 10, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    Cool! Any way for those of us who are total amateurs at videos to submit one without having to run it through YouTube? Would like to avoid any third party intrusion if at all possible.

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  • 15. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  November 10, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    Fun story: My Son the Princess

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2013366629_princessboy07m.html

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  • 16. Rhie  |  November 10, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    Nice!

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  • 17. DaveP  |  November 10, 2010 at 5:54 pm

    I wish I could quit you, Prop8TrialTracker!

    Just kiddin, I don´t wish anything of the sort. But I thought I could actually stay off the internet while on vacation. This email kinda proves I couldn´t. I´m writing from a small hotel in the Argentine jungles, then I´m off to see Iguasu Falls in the morning. They have a painfully slow internet connection here in the lobby and I couldn´t resist the urge to check in. Wow, you guys sure have been busy! I have way too much reading to do when I get home next week.

    Until then,

    DaveP

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    • 18. Kathleen  |  November 10, 2010 at 5:55 pm

      Wonderful to hear from you. Can’t wait for stories when you return.

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    • 19. Ann S.  |  November 10, 2010 at 6:27 pm

      Wow, I hope you’re having as wonderful a time as I imagine you are!

      Reply
  • 20. DebbieC  |  November 10, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    A little OT (okay, maybe a lot :P )

    I made this graphic http://marriageequality.deviantart.com/art/Marriage-Equality-ribbon-130533886 to benefit any equality groups, donating net proceeds (granted, I haven’t sold many, but the intent was there)

    I’m kind of annoyed to find it has been snagged by a life insurance site – just spotted the ad on Facebook. I want to beat them up and force them to make a donation or something. :(

    ‘scribin

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  • 21. Josh  |  November 11, 2010 at 5:48 pm

    How long is this stage of the trial expected to last?

    What is the tentative schedule of this stage?

    Is this hearing about the ability of the bad team to appeal or the actual appeal of Judge Walker’s ruling?

    Thanks! I’m just not sure where this thing is now since it’s been so long since I’ve read anything on the actual case that spawned this GREAT site.

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    • 22. Kathleen  |  November 11, 2010 at 5:55 pm

      Dec 6 is oral arguments in front of a three judge panel of the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. It will only be the one day. Parties will be arguing both the question of standing for appeal and the merits of the case.

      Then we wait for a decision from the 9th Circuit. Usually, these decisions take 2-3 months, but because this is on an expedited schedule, I’m guessing more like a month.

      If they decide that no one has standing to appeal, I expect the appellants (Proponents and Imperial County) to appeal that decision to the Supreme Court. Also, if no one has standing to appeal, I don’t expect an opinion on the merits.

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      • 23. Josh  |  November 11, 2010 at 7:17 pm

        Thanks, Kathleen. What if they decide that they have standing to appeal? Would the 9th then also give their decision on the case itself or would they respond to standing first, then at a later date, respond to the merit question?

        Would the 9th have more argument over merit at a later date if standing is granted?

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      • 24. Josh  |  November 11, 2010 at 7:23 pm

        If they have standing, but the 9th agrees with Walker’s ruling, the appellants will appeal to the Supreme Court.

        Is the only way that the Supreme Court doesn’t hear this case is if they decide not to take up either standing or the merit question?

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      • 25. Kathleen  |  November 11, 2010 at 7:35 pm

        What if they decide that they have standing to appeal? Would the 9th then also give their decision on the case itself or would they respond to standing first, then at a later date, respond to the merit question?

        Let me preface by saying most anything is possible. However, the most likely scenario is that the Court would give their decision on the merits along with the decision saying appellants have standing to appeal.

        Would the 9th have more argument over merit at a later date if standing is granted?

        Not likely.

        Is the only way that the Supreme Court doesn’t hear this case is if they decide not to take up either standing or the merit question?

        The other possibility is that the losing party chooses not to appeal. As you’ve stated, Proponents are likely to appeal a ruling upholding Walker’s decision. But I think there’s a chance that if plaintiffs don’t prevail with the 9th Circuit, they might decide not to appeal.

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        • 26. Ann S.  |  November 11, 2010 at 7:41 pm

          I agree. :)

          With the proviso that it is possible to request a rehearing en banc, which would, if granted, lead to a rehearing by — I can’t remember if it’s 7, 9 or 11 — a larger panel of 9th circuit justices.

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  • […] With Prop 8 case hearing in 9th Circuit fast approaching, Courage launches “The Wedding Matters M… […]

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  • 28. Bob  |  November 16, 2010 at 7:59 am

    What happens if the 9th Circuit denies standing and rules against prop 8 at the same time? Wouldn’t that become precedent in the west and overturn anti-marriage laws in places like Idaho and Alaska?

    Isn’t sexual orientation already subject to intermediate scrutiny in the 9th circuit, following Witt v Air Force?

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    • 29. Kathleen  |  November 16, 2010 at 8:28 am

      If the 9th Circuit decides no one has standing to appeal, it is highly unlikely they’ll reach a decision on the merits.

      The ruling in Witt doesn’t establish intermediate scrutiny for sexual orientation. The so-called “Witt standard” only applies to DADT. If the standard applied to any law which impacts gays & lesbians, then Walker would have been required to apply heightened scrutiny in his equal protection analysis in the case.

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  • 30. Bob  |  November 16, 2010 at 8:08 am

    Won’t the case be renamed Brown v Perry, or would that happen only if it’s reheared?

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    • 31. Kathleen  |  November 16, 2010 at 8:21 am

      Brown doesn’t take office until January. So the case will likely only be renamed if it goes beyond the current appeal.

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  • 32. Bob  |  November 16, 2010 at 8:20 am

    Also, is it likely that the Supreme Court would strike down Prop 8 without affecting other states? In other words, strike down the process of Prop 8 without commenting on whether there is a fundamental right to marriage regardless of sex?

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    • 33. Kathleen  |  November 16, 2010 at 8:33 am

      If the case goes to the Supreme Court on the merits (and there are a lot of ‘ifs” that would have to take come to pass for that to happen), it is possible that the Court could decide that Prop 8 is unconstitutional based on facts that are unique to the situation in California. If that were to happen, the case wouldn’t necessarily be useful precedent for challenging other states’ bans.

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  • 34. Bob  |  November 16, 2010 at 10:51 am

    Thanks, Kathleen you seem very knowledgable.

    I think there’s a strong case to hold sexual orientation as a suspect class since CLS v Martinez in which the Court explicitly refused to distinguish between status and behavior. Also, my understanding is that prop 8 discriminates on sex, since two people of the same sex cannot marry regardless of their orientation. Unfortunately, I think SCOTUS would not want to overturn ant-marriage laws since only 5 states and DC recgonize it. It would have been a better idea to challenge anti-gay adoption laws in federal court because they have a better chance of suceeding and building favorable case law.

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