House to vote today on repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”

December 15, 2010 at 7:36 am 303 comments

By Adam Bink

Updates will scroll from the top

Update 50: The bill passes 250-175 with 9 not voting. Great news. It got 16 more votes than in May, with 10 more Republicans voting yea. It will now proceed to the Senate. A new post is coming for reaction and a special announcement from Courage Campaign. This thread will no longer update.

Update 49: Bill is close to 250 votes. It will pass, only a question of the margin. Remember we got 234 in May.

Update 48: Wow. 14 Republicans voting in favor so far. Only got 5 in May.

Update 47: Stay tuned immediately following the vote for a special event hosted by Courage Campaign.

Update 46: Voting begins. 15 minute vote.

Update 45: And debates comes to a close with Rep. Susan Davis urging an aye vote. Not a single Republican spoke in favor of repeal.

Update 44: Rep. Al Green, Democrat from Houston, who says he himself as an African-American has experienced discrimination, says “I don’t need a survey to tell me what’s right when it comes to human rights… I will not ask people who are willing to die for my country to live a lie for my country.”

Update 43: A series of speakers continue making various argument. Reps. Walz, Buyer, Boccieri, Loretta Sanchez. Debate is coming to a close. Still no Republican to speak in favor of repeal.

Update 42: Rep. Barney Frank dismantles Republican complains about the holding up of the DOD bill. Notes that if we want to talk about distraction, the “maintenance” of this policy is a distraction with respect to the money spent, service members lost, etc.

Update 41: Rep. Joe Sestak, the highest-ranking veteran ever elected to Congress (he retired as an Admiral), and with whom I did an interview immediately after the plan to have a report, steps up. He notes how on his aircraft carrier that he commanded, “the average age is 19 and a half, and they just don’t care.”

Update 40: 6 minutes remaining for the anti-repeal folks, and 10.75 minutes for the pro-repeal folks.

Update 39: Rep. Louie Gohmert, a serious religious-based homophobe from eastern Texas, talks about how not everyone gets to serve who wants to serve, so cry me a river. He is on a righteous rant about how the military doesn’t have freedom of speech, assembly, or to “express love to those in the military the way you can out here.”

Update 38: Majority Leader and bill co-sponsor Steny Hoyer steps forward to say “it is never too late to do the right thing.” Quotes Barry Goldwater’s famous line about how it is more important that soldiers shoot straight than whether they are straight. Calls out Senate Republicans for blocking the DOD bill with DADT amendment. Rep. Hunter, the Marine, asks Hoyer what he thinks of some service chiefs being against repeal. Hoyer responds that their concerns seem to be founded on worrying over what the troops think. That’s why we did a survey. Notes the numbers now in favor among servicemembers. Overall, a lengthy and very good speech that garners applause.

Update 37: Rep. Chris Murphy from Connecticut steps up to note how folks like McCain have moved the goalposts, arguing for a study, arguing for listening to our military leaders. “Our troops are the best of the best and they deserve a Congress that puts our nat’l security over a rigid partisan ideology.”

Update 36: Rep. Langevin (D-RI) speaks in favor. Rep. Duncan Hunter, Jr., whose father once chaired Armed Services if I recall correctly, is the local majordomo Marine to oppose repeal. He oddly quotes Gen. Powell to make the argument that one can’t compare race and sexual orientation. “The United States military is not the YMCA. It’s somethin’ special!”, says Hunter. “The Marine Corps is not the place to have a liberal crusade to create a utopia and a liberal agenda of experiment.” Stay classy, Hunter.

Update 35: 234 House members  voted in favor of repeal last May with 10 not voting, though nearly all were anti-repeal. Any predictions on the number in favor now, given the public’s movement, the PCWG report’s conclusions, the movement in the courts, and the testimony of military leaders? Predictions on # of Republicans in favor also welcome (just 5 last time).

Update 34: A veteran, if not of the military of the civil rights battles of our nation’s history- Rep. John Lewis (D-GA)- steps up to give a dozen reasons to “Vote YES!”.

Update 33: Rep. Rob Andrews (D-NJ) steps up to quote Colin Powell, who now supports DADT repeal. Andrews has also been one of the louder voices on the importance of passing the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, though we still have a long way to go on that front. “This shoulda been done a long time ago; today is the day to get it done; vote yes.” Rep. Lamborn (R-CO) replies a bunch of nonsense.

Update 32: Rep. Todd Akin, Republican from Missouri, is complaining about lack of movement on the DOD bill. Again, talk to your friends in the Senate, Todd. We could have moved on the defense bill if they didn’t all sign a letter.

Update 31: Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA) is making a very forceful, specific argument in favor of repeal. Are we going to get a single pro-repeal Republican to speak?

Update 30: Rep. Vic Snyder, Democrat from Little Rock, is up talking about the valuable contributions gays and lesbians make for America and how his children will be better off with this law repealed. Very brief. Rep. Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD), steps up to complain about the lack of movement on the DOD authorization bill, but we’re voting on this. Hey, maybe if Roscoe told his colleagues in the Senate not to hold everything hostage for tax cuts for millionaires, we’d have moved on the DOD bill. That was the stated reason several Republicans voted against last week’s motion to proceed. Anyway, he says “now is not the time.”

Update 29: Rep. Joe “You lie!” Wilson (R-SC), who is ranking the military personnel subcommittee, rises to spout the usual arguments on “now is not the time”. I’d love to see how many of these folks support repeal if we were at peace. Of course, as long as there’s a servicemember overseas, it will probably never be considered “peace”.

Update 28: She continues by quoting today’s WaPo/ABC News poll demonstrating nearly 80% of the American public believe servicemembers should serve openly. Notes the vote in May was a “proud day” for the House.

Update 27: Speaker Pelosi heads to the floor to speak. She thanks a number of members for their leadership. She specifically acknowledges Rep. Patrick Murphy for his military service and political leadership on this issue. She says “repealing the discriminatory DADT policy will honor the service and sacrifices” of those who have defended the country. She notes she spoke on the floor 17 years ago, calling on the President (Clinton) to lift the ban. Laments the resulting policy that has resulted in more than 13,000 (actually 14,000) discharges from the military.

Update 26: Rep. Buck McKeon (R-CA), who is currently ranking Republican on the House Armed Services Committee and managed anti-repeal debate last time the House voted on this in May, is up. He quotes certain stats from the report, as well as a few service chiefs. He is taking the “repeal is great, but we should do it when we’re not at war”, quoting from Amos- even though that has been debunked.

Update 25: The White House just released a SAP (Statement of Administration Policy) on the House amendment. It reads:

The Administration strongly supports House passage of the House amendment to the Senate amendment to H.R. 2965, which would repeal the statute underlying “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” after the President, the Secretary of Defense, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff certify that implementation of the necessary policies and regulations related to the statutory repeal is consistent with the standards of military readiness, military effectiveness, unit cohesion, and recruiting and retention of the Armed Forces.  Congressional enactment of this legislation would allow a repeal to be implemented under terms and a timetable that would be informed by the advice of our military leadership.

The recently-released comprehensive study by the Department of Defense shows that overwhelming majorities of our Service members are prepared to serve with Americans who are openly gay or lesbian; it concludes that overall, and with thorough preparation, there would be low risk associated with the repeal.  The existing statute weakens our national security, diminishes our military readiness, and violates fundamental American principles of fairness, integrity, and equality.

Update 24: Rep. Susan Davis, from the San Diego/La Jolla area is up laying out all the reasons for repeal; testimony of Admiral Mullen and Sec. Gates; courts striking down the law leaving little/no time for implementation; the right of servicemembers to serve openly and honestly.

Update 23: Rep. Diana DeGette (D-CO) getting her pro-repeal tweet on.

Update 22: Okay, floor debate on the bill itself is starting. 1 hour max. Then, at some point afterwards, they will have a vote on final passage and we’ll be done in the House. Rep. Susan Davis will manage floor debate on this portion.

Update 21: While we’re waiting, I’ve got video of Rep. Pingree’s great opening statement on floor debate today (h/t Pingree’s staff):

Update 20: The Heisman vote passed. There is now a vote on a resolution recognizing Gerda Weissman Klein, who I once saw speak at my local synagogue back home, on winning a Medal of Freedom. C-SPAN tells us this will be the last vote in the series of quick votes.

Update 19: The rule passes, 232-180. The House will proceed to 1 hour debate on the bill itself and then vote on passage, after they vote on other business (they are currently voting on a resolution congratulating Cam Newton on winning the Heisman, for example).

Update 18: For those in the comments, this is not the final vote on passage. This the vote on the rule that will govern the bill (which is closed, meaning no amendments). That said, votes on rules often mirror votes on the substance of the bill itself, so it may be similar. This rule will pass, but then we have to have a final vote on passage.

If anyone wants to see the last roll call on passage itself (e.g. the substance of the bill the last time it was voted on), I would recommend looking at the vote count on the Murphy amendment last May. Those numbers told you who was on our side. It’s essentially the same language as the bill that will be voted on later today. But if you want to compare apples to apples, you should compare the vote from the Murphy amendment in May to the vote on the Murphy amendment later this afternoon- not the vote on the rule they’re doing right now. I will let everyone know when they’re voting on the bill itself later this afternoon.

Update 17: While the House is voting, I thought I’d share the first letter to the editor to be published as a result of our West Virginia action asking constituents to write why they think DADT should be repealed and Sen. Manchin should vote to do so. It was published in the Charleston Daily Mail, and you can read it here.

Update 16: Vote on the rule has started.

Update 15: No more speakers on the pro-repeal side. It appears we won’t get a Republican pro-repeal speaker. Diaz-Balart has no more speakers either. Pingree closes saying she believes some folks run out of substantive arguments, and so they complain about process.

Update 14: Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee of Houston, always the best-dressed member of Congress in my opinion (no scarf today, but a lovely red jacket and flower broche) rises to deliver a fierce speech in support of a constituent who would like to serve, and in support of the freedom to serve. Go, girl.

Update 13: Rep. Peters, Democrat of Michigan, a veteran of the Navy reserve, rises to note that he’s served alongside brave men and women who were openly gay. I’d love to see one of the 5 Republicans who voted aye in May (Ros-Lehtinen, Ron Paul, Djou, Biggert, Cao) or are supportive now to speak in support.

Update 12: Diaz-Balart rises to complain that the majority is using another bill to accomplish this with broad bipartisan support (a small business bill) and the rule that is being debated strikes that legislation and inserts DADT repeal language “into that shell”. Which Republicans have done before, but whatever. This is being done to avoid a filibuster on the motion to proceed in the Senate. But as Frank notes, there has been open debate and votes on this in both houses.

Update 11: Frank continues by noting “we’ve gone through triple regular order” by noting a vote on the House floor, a vote in the Senate committee, and a vote again today.

Update 10: Rep. Barney Frank is up. He notes the “bizarre procedural argument that we are not adopting regular order.” He’s referring to Diaz-Balart’s complaint on the rules. He notes the House has already passed repeal via the Murphy amendment last May, which I note in the update below this.

Update 9: Remember that DADT repeal passed the House 234 in favor, 194 opposed, 10 not voting last May. Interesting to see how much that increases post-Pentagon report.

Update 8: Rep. Berkley and Quigley rise to make very fine speeches as well.

Update 7: Rep. Harman rises to recall her experience as the most junior member of the House Armed Services Committee in 1993, as a freshman member, remembering telling General Colin Powell, when he came to testify, that she believed DADT was unconstitutional. “I opposed it then, and I oppose it now.”

Update 6: Rep. Tsongas notes that DADT is the only federal statute remaining that requires people to be fired because of their  sexual orientation.

Update 5: Rep. Pingree is going through reasons to support repeal: the PCWG report; misguided arguments against allowing women to serve in combat; moral reasons regarding serving in slience. Diaz-Balart rises on the other side to mumble nonsense and complaints about House procedure, mostly. Rep. Polis does a fine job articulating reasons to vote in favor of repeal. Rep. Gingrey rises to rant about a social agenda.

Update 4: Rep. Pingree is up. Debate on the rule itself is starting. There will be one hour of debate time, equally divided between Pingree and the Republicans, led by Lincoln Diaz-Balart of Florida.

Update 3: I’m told Pepe Johnson, the veteran discharged under DADT who we quoted in our e-mail blast to West Virginian Courage Campaign members on Monday, stopped by Sen. Manchin’s office at 11 AM EST to deliver a boatload of petitions urging repeal. I’ll update if there are photos/videos.

Update 2: In a great sign, Sen. Reid says Congress doesn’t end at Christmas time:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid threatened to keep the Senate in session after Christmas, all the way up to the beginning of next Congress if the GOP doesn’t get out of the way and allow votes on Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell repeal, the START treaty and other key Democratic initiatives.

“There’s still Congress after Christmas. So if the Republicans think that because they can stall and stall and stall that we take a break we’re through — we’re not through,” Reid said. Congress ends on January 4.”

Good. Stay until it’s done or until they drag our allies out of the chamber.

Update 1: The Speaker’s office said a vote is expected around 3-4 PM EST, with debate to occur prior.

Today, the House is expected to vote on repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”. The bill is sponsored once again by Rep. Patrick Murphy of Pennsylvania, a veteran of the Iraq war and straight ally, and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland. The vote comes as a new Washington Post/ABC News poll came out this morning showing 77% of Americans support allowing those who disclose their sexual orientation to serve openly. That’s the highest level of support ever recorded in the poll and another demonstration of how the public supports this change- whether Republican or Democrat, Massachusetts or West Virginia.

Just now, Rep. Chellie Pingree, Democrat from Maine, who will be managing the bill on the floor, tweeted:

@chelliepingree In Rules committee, preparing to bring the repeal of DADT to floor. I hope to manage bill shortly. Time to end this discrimination!

I am told by Rep. Pingree’s office that debate could start as early as 11 AM EST. In fact, I’m watching one-minute speeches right now during morning business, and Rep. John Garamendi, who many of you may know as the former Lieutenant Governor of California and is now Congressman from the Walnut Creek area, is up speaking about the importance of repealing the law today. Good for him.

Afterwards, the bill will proceed to the Senate under privileged status as a “message”, enabling Sen. Reid to avoid a vote on the motion to proceed and 30 hours “maturation” for the motion, saving a few days under this tight calendar. Sen. Reid has not announced a date for the vote yet; expect an announcement pending a deal and movement of the Senate on the tax legislation, and after today’s House vote on repeal. Also, stay tuned for a special event tonight from Courage Campaign.

This thread will update as I get notice of when debate will begin, and I will be covering the debate and vote here. Updates will scroll from the top.

Entry filed under: Don't Ask Don't Tell.

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303 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Linda  |  December 15, 2010 at 7:44 am

    Hey Adam,
    Nothing to add except a huge Thank You for your diligence in keeping us posted and updated these past few weeks. Your tireless work is very greatly appreciated!

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  • 5. atty79  |  December 15, 2010 at 7:45 am

    Already called Representative Buchanan to vote for repeal. I urge everyone to do the same…call your representatives.

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  • 6. Richard A. Jernigan  |  December 15, 2010 at 7:46 am

    Of course, this does not mean that we can afford to let up on the Senate. We have to keep on the phones and make sure that our senators know that they are to put our military ahead of their vacations, and that means that they need to remain at work until DADT is repealed.

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  • 7. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 7:51 am

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    • 8. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 8:02 am

      √+1

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      • 9. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 8:03 am

        reserved feelings today after such a roller coaster… subs…

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  • 10. Ann S.  |  December 15, 2010 at 8:23 am

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  • 11. Randy  |  December 15, 2010 at 8:50 am

    ***is biting all his nails off***

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    • 12. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 9:33 am

      at work…trying not to think about it….”breathe” I keep telling myself….sending positive energy toward Washington…

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      • 13. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 9:38 am

        All the while listening to customer complain about computer issues….which seems tedious compared to fact that persons LIVES are on the line with a vote from a bunch of finicky senators who find going to dentist or the beach or adding more money to their own bank account more important….

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  • 14. Dave in ME  |  December 15, 2010 at 8:52 am

    YEAH! Chellie rocks! I just hope Snowe hears our calls!

    Dave in MAINE

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    • 15. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:51 am

      Yes she does! Woot Chellie!

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    • 16. Straight Ally #3008  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:07 am

      SO glad she was re-elected up your way, Dave. It partially makes up for the disaster of LePage getting elected.

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  • 17. Sagesse  |  December 15, 2010 at 9:52 am

    Are you listening, Senators? Nike had it right. Just do it.

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  • 18. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 9:56 am

    Rule debate on DADT after the current Fake Calls vote.

    You can watch it live: http://cspan.org/Watch/C-SPAN.aspx

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    • 19. StraightForEquality  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:02 am

      Thanks for the link. There’s nothing like following real time!

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  • 20. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Tweeters – Here is a tool to Tweet your representatives and senators: http://www.hrc.org/tweet/

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    • 21. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:07 am

      cool. thx!

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  • 22. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:21 am

    Tee Hee

    Lawsuit: Iowa Vote to Oust Pro-Equality Judges Was Illegal

    Could the vote in November to oust three Iowa Supreme Court justices be thrown out on a technicality?

    Three Des Moines-area attorneys believe the retention vote that ousted three Iowa Supreme Court justices was illegal because the Iowa Constitution mandates the votes for judges be “on a separate ballot.”

    They have filed suit to keep the three justices, who participated in last year’s unanimous ruling that legalized same-sex marriage, from being tossed off the bench.

    The ballot used Nov. 2 included the names of the justices standing for retention on the back of a single sheet, “combined with other elections, nonpartisan offices, Constitutional questions and public measures,” the lawsuit says.

    Thomas W. George, John P. Roehrick and Carlton Salmons are asking for a temporary judicial order that would bar the justices from leaving the Supreme Court when their terms end Dec. 31.

    More: http://www.towleroad.com/2010/12/lawsuit-iowa-vote-to-oust-pro-equality-judges-was-illegal.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+towleroad%2Ffeed+%28Towleroad+Daily++%23gay+news%29

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    • 23. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:24 am

      that would be AWESOME!!!!!!!! Tee Hee X a million!!

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    • 24. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:29 am

      That is fantastic! I so hope it works.

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    • 25. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:35 am

      Seems a bit of a stretch. The report says the ballot for the judges was by itself, but on the back of the same piece of paper containing the ballot for candidates and issues.

      This will come down to how the courts interpret what constitutes a “separate ballot.” Does it have to be on a separate piece of paper, or is having it on the back of another ballot sufficiently separate? I think this is a long shot.

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      • 26. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:43 am

        I agree, but love the idea!….as always, appreciate your expert perspective Kathleen : )

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  • 27. Ronnie  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:32 am

    Do Ask…Do Tell….Treat all your soldiers very well…They sacrifice for you….so respect them too…American does not mean some…so lets all join hands a hum… ; ) ….Ronnie

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    • 28. Straight Ally #3008  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:07 am

      +1000 for our resident wordsmith!

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  • 29. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:44 am

    taxes through the senate…at least something is moving!

    Breaking News Alert: Senate passes tax package
    December 15, 2010 1:27:15 PM
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    A sweeping tax package negotiated by the White House and GOP leaders sailed through the Senate on a 81-19 vote Wednesday and now awaits action by the House as early as Thursday.

    http://link.email.washingtonpost.com/r/TNGYL1/YH8BK6/LN2WGP/OVLWLH/JGYTY/OS/h

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    • 30. Ronnie  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:48 am

      Ok…..so now the Republicans got what they wanted & they can vote to repeal DADT & pass NDAA..no questions asked……just vote yes…..that is what they promised…..I’m not going to hold my breath….but, I’m just pointing it out….<3…Ronnie

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      • 31. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:49 am

        HELL YES!!

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        • 32. BK  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:48 am

          A whole lotta those possible votes sound more like a “HELL (maybe)…”

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  • 33. adambink  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:48 am

    Debate is starting folks, updates at the top.

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    • 34. Karin  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:00 am

      Good to see the Rep. Diaz-Balart sticking to the Republican plan during this debate– debate the rule, the process, and pretty much anything except the actual policy.

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  • 35. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 10:58 am

    boo to Diaz Balart!

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  • 36. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:00 am

    Diaz-Balart of Florida is arguing against the bill on the grounds that the Democrats have not allowed debate on other things. I can’t see that he had anything at all to say about DADT. He just complained that Republicans were not allowed to debate other things. Wierd.

    The Democrats are speaking about DADT and what is wrong with it.

    I am guessing that the Republicans realize that they are going to lose, and so Diaz-Balart used his time to just make a political speach?

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    • 37. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:03 am

      !!!!
      Adam are you on site? will you punch Gingrey in the nose for me? GGGRRRrrrrr

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      • 38. adambink  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:49 am

        I am not, but Gingrey is one of my top 7 or 8 most annoying House members.

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    • 39. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:03 am

      This guy from Georgia is annoying – not as annoying as McCain – but annoying!

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  • 40. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:07 am

    Apparently the head of the Marines thinks that knowing their collegues are gay is going to cause straight Marines to either chew their own arms off, or maybe start shooting each other… I can’t see what else he might mean by there being a danger of death or dismemberment if DADT is repealed.

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    • 41. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:09 am

      I think he thinks they are all just closeted homosexuals who will go wild if DADT is repealed – Marines Gone Wild?. Obviously he doesn’t think much of his Marines.

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      • 42. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:14 am

        I would think that Marines who have had to contain themselves even MORE than their collegues have aptly demonstrated their ability to hold it together, don’t you? :)

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    • 43. Straight Ally #3008  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:10 am

      It’s the usual. The Marines are calm, cool, and collected when facing IEDs, snipers, and suicide bombers, but the mere thought of the guy next to them checking out their butt? OH NOEZ!!!!!! *faint*

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      • 44. BK  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:51 am

        Perhaps they’ll question their own masculinity if the “feminine” (LOL) gays are allowed in the service.

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    • 45. Richard A. Jernigan  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:09 pm

      Perhaps he is afraid of his own death or dismemberment when the Marines he is insulting by claiming that they are not professional enough to do their jobs come after him once DADT is repealed and they can invite EVERYONE in their units to bring their spouses to the “company” picnic, and they find out that we have the same domestic concerns that they have, and that General Amos is nothing more than a closet case who is jealous over not having his own partner.

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  • 46. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:12 am

    On a military headstone… “I was given a medal for killing two men, and a discharge for loving one.”

    I love that.

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    • 47. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:41 am

      whoa…

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    • 48. Richard A. Jernigan  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:00 pm

      Yes. That is Leonard Malkovich’s headstone, I believe. One of our earliest proponents on letting LGBT people serve openly.

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  • 49. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:17 am

    Barney Frank is railing about the fact that the procedural questions that Diaz-Balart are riduculous.

    The truth of it is, to us standing outside are looking at MOST of what Congress does as insane procedure. Honestly, WE DON’T CARE HOW YOU GET IT DONE. JUST GET IT DONE!

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    • 50. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:22 am

      !!!!!!!!

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  • 51. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:25 am

    Go Pingree! She addresses the procedural point well. She says that when someone does not have substantive argument against a bill, they fall back to arguing about the process. Good for her.

    Then she goes back to address the fact that the study is so conclusive and we should deal with that. Good job.

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    • 52. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:26 am

      !!!! Gays love Pingree! (and anongry!)

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      • 53. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:27 am

        aka angry gry ; )i

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        • 54. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:27 am

          I’ll stop posting now…. ::sheepishly leaving now because can’t type::

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          • 55. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:30 am

            There, there, Gregory.

            *gentle hug*

          • 56. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:32 am

            “sniff”

  • 57. Ed  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:26 am

    is there a live feed to watch this? cspan perhaps?

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  • 59. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:28 am

    I called my good-for-nothing Representative (racist, sexist, homophobic jerk that he is) & asked him to vote to repeal DADT. I know it won’t do any good in the long run — but I love being a pain in his backside.

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    • 60. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:29 am

      Do you have McCain too?

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      • 61. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:30 am

        Nope. My senators are Boxer & Feinstein. I’m lucky, there. =)

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        • 62. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:32 am

          I tried to trade McCain but no other states wanted him.

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          • 63. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:33 am

            LOL! you can have Orin Hatch! I’ll pay well!

          • 64. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:42 am

            I say we check with Uganda… see if they’ve got anyone they want to trade for McCain. I think just about anybody that Uganda wants to get rid of would be a step up for you.

            Perhaps we can even get some sort of a group deal. McCain and Hatch for two as yet to be named Ugandan gay rights supporters. We will even throw in a bonus, they can have Maggie and an option on Brian, but only if they agree to take Louis as part of the deal. We will pay shipping and handling. I say we start a collection right now. :)

          • 65. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:15 pm

            I still say we round up everyone in NOM, FRC, AFA, and those whose beliefs coincide with theirs — and ship them ALL to Uganda. We can trade as many haters anti-equality folks as we can round up for all the GLBT Ugandans who would like to come live here instead. They can even swap homes!

          • 66. Richard A. Jernigan  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:50 pm

            Did you try trading with Uganda? They would love to have him!

          • 67. Richard A. Jernigan  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:02 pm

            UPS just told me we can get free shipping to Uganda on all of them if we include Tony Perkins and Steve LIvely in the package to be shipped.

      • 68. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:38 am

        My Rep is David Drier. I called his office, urging a yes vote. The staff member took my personal info, including my street address (presumably to confirm I’m in his district) and said she would pass along my message. She said she is unaware of the Congressman’s position on the matter. Riiiight.

        I was tempted to also pass along a message urging him to come out, but decided to keep in classy.

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        • 69. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:51 am

          yes! come out come out wherever you are…(wizard of oz)

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        • 70. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:58 am

          In one of those ‘wish I’d thought to say that’ moments I just thought of the message I should have left “Anyone who is willing to serve his country – whether in the military or as an elected representative in Congress – should not have to lie about who they are in order to serve. :)

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          • 71. Kathlene  |  December 15, 2010 at 6:07 pm

            That would have been AMAZING.

          • 72. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 6:10 pm

            Well, it seems I may have an opportunity tomorrow when I call to thank him. It appears that hell has frozen over… because he voted for repeal!!

          • 73. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 16, 2010 at 5:34 am

            There were a few amazing votes…lets hope this trend continues in the senate!

  • 74. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:29 am

    An amendment? Did anyone hear what that was?

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    • 75. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:34 am

      …to go back to the processes…..*rolling eyes*

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  • 76. celdd  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:34 am

    I called my congress critter – John Campbell of CA – and asked if he would be voting to abolish DADT this afternoon. The lady said he won’t know how he is going to vote until the vote happens (!). He doesn’t know?

    I told her I urged him to vote yes and uphold the Constitution to treat all citizens equally.

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    • 77. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:36 am

      Ye Gads! (@ doesn’t know how he is going to vote..)

      Thank u for calling celdd!!!!!

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    • 78. Michelle Evans  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:57 am

      Ah, another John Campbell constituent. Been in his district since he first took office (and many years previously). I can tell you with absolute certainty that John Campbell will do one of two things with regard to DADT: 1) He will vote against repeal, or 2) He will simply not vote.

      Campbell is an absolute LGBTphobe. He has voted against ENDA and also the Matthew Shepard/James Byrd Hate Crimes bill. I have been in his office, with a group of fellow LGBT people–two of us veterans–to supposedly have a meeting about this issue. The first time we arrived for our scheduled appointment, Campbell decided to run away and could not be found. And remember that this was a Scheduled and Verified appointment! The appointment was rescheduled, and our group returned. This time, instead of the promised meeting with Campbell, we did get our meeting, but with a junior staff person.

      The meeting initially went very well, and we had high hopes that maybe we had accomplished something. However, as we soon learned, we were all just given the brush-off and anything discussed and promised in his office was just to get rid of us. He has never returned one message from anyone in our group, nor has his staffer. And he has never once voted in favor of even one single thing that would benefit the LGBT community.

      Congressman John Campbell is an absolute lost cause as far as the LGBT community is concerned, so don’t even waste your time with him. He is a typical Republican Homophobe and Transphobe–guaranteed. And even then, he rarely even shows up to vote (thus number 2 above). I believe he has the worst record of any congressman for actually being present to make a vote, regardless of the issue. Oh, and he is also a Birther.

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      • 79. celdd  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:31 pm

        Yes, that’s consistent with my experience with him. My daughter married her girlfriend on the last day you could. I ordered a flag from his office to commerate them, (and also as a test for the Representative). Every time I checked the status they would call up the order and said everything was fine, it’s in the mail, etc., but never received the flag. I gave up after several months as I had my answer.

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        • 80. Michelle Evans  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:46 pm

          OMG! I called Campbell’s office and was told that he actually voted in favor of DADT repeal!! I think he’s been taken over by a pod person. This is not the Campbell I’ve ever dealt with. Maybe there is hope in this universe after all.

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          • 81. Bob  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:56 pm

            Michelle, I was thinking of you through this process, I think I only heard reference to transgendered once, and that was in the rightful context of using the term LGBT service members…….. I heard that,,,,

          • 82. celdd  |  December 15, 2010 at 3:03 pm

            I was floored when I saw he voted in favor! I called his office and said Thank You!

          • 83. Michelle Evans  |  December 15, 2010 at 3:09 pm

            Bob, Thank you for thinking of me–and all transgender service members past, present, and future. Even with the repeal of DADT actually being within reach for gays and lesbians, any of us trans people will still have to wait probably a very, very long time into the future to be included in being able to serve our country openly.

            I absolutely hail the way things are going, but if this repeal finally comes to pass with no trans inclusion (which is does not), then any pressure to do so at pretty much anytime in the future will be nonexistent. I doubt I will live long enough to see that ever happen once my LGB friends have their full rights.

        • 84. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:53 pm

          That’s fantastic news!!

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  • 85. Mackenzie  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:34 am

    thanks for the updates Adam!

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  • 86. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:42 am

    So I am watching the CSPAN link….will they continue to mill around for a long time? What’s the procedure?

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    • 87. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:43 am

      The “time remaining” countdown is how long everyone has to register their vote… then they mill around a bit and start talking again.

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      • 88. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:47 am

        0:00 time remaining…? I guess there are people tallying the votes turned in now?

        And what’s with this “NV” column. Is that “Not Voting”?

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        • 89. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:55 am

          And the ‘time remaining’ clock appears to not be working.

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      • 90. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:49 am

        Yes, NV means not voted.

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        • 91. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:51 am

          Kathleen – can you explain what a procedural vote is?

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        • 92. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:54 am

          I think it just means that it’s a vote on procedure, rather than the substance of a measure.

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    • 93. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:44 am

      Do they vote by turning in slips? Why not a show of hands? (I know this is making more savvy posters take 10 steps back to explain this.)

      Or maybe this feed isn’t live?

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      • 94. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:47 am

        I think it’s electronic.

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      • 95. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:48 am

        and the feed is live

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  • 96. aaron in san fran  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:45 am

    5 nay democrats? WTF????

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    • 97. adambink  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:47 am

      There were 26 nays on the bill itself, so I wouldn’t be surprised. Also, just a reminder that this is a vote on the rule, not the bill itself.

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    • 98. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:47 am

      I think this is on an amendment

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      • 99. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:49 am

        “This is a procedural vote setting debate rules for the bill”

        whatever that means –

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        • 100. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:51 am

          This has to pass in order for them to take up the DADT bill.

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          • 101. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:51 am

            2/3 pass or just majority pass?

        • 102. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:52 am

          … or at least some procedural bill allowing them to take up the DADT bill has to pass. I think this particular one sets one hour for debate on the DADT bill and signifies no amendments to the bill. But I’ not sure on the particulars, maybe someone can clarify.

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        • 103. elliom  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:56 am

          Because the House is so large, they have to set rules on debate before they can take up legislation (this is not a problem in the Senate), that define how long, who leads, who gets to speak, and in what order, etc.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives#Passage_of_legislation

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    • 104. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:49 am

      “5 nay democrats? WTF????”

      Me no like-y.

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  • 105. James Tuttle  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:46 am

    this is really intense!!!

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  • 106. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:47 am

    Before anyone watching CSPAN starts to panic, it appears what they are voting on is NOT the DADT policy, they are voting on how to the debate will go.

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  • 107. Ed  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:49 am

    well, i see homophobia/bigotry is alive and well :(

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  • 108. adambink  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:51 am

    Folks, there appears to be some confusion about what this vote is. Please see Update 18 at the top for an explanation.

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    • 109. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:53 am

      Thank you Adam.

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    • 110. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:55 am

      “CONFUSION”? Here?? About legal procedure???

      I wouldn’t believe such an outrageous slur was be uttered if I hadn’t seen it with my own eyes!!

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      • 111. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:55 am

        Q: Are the “NVs” all present, and CAN vote?

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      • 112. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:58 am

        As it was, we WERE all majoring in Marriage Equality and the Court System – now we are all getting a minor in Bills, Amendments and Debate.

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        • 113. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:06 pm

          Well, I guess DADT is sort of our side dish…or more accurately, Second Course.

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  • 114. BK  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:52 am

    Crap. I’ve got to turn in for the night. See the results in the morning. Grrr, this always happens! Then I toss & turn the whole night. Oh well. Ciao, my friends!

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    • 115. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:56 am

      Sleep well. We will hold down the fort till you get back.

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      • 116. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:05 pm

        Ciao BK! I’m off to the dentist myself….

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  • 117. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 11:57 am

    I spotted someone in the aisle from the back (in a navy suit with long blonde hair) that looked suspiciously like Ann Coulter! Could she have infiltrated the chambers???

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  • 118. adambink  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    The rule passed, 232-180. Update above.

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    • 119. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:01 pm

      Can’t they just stick to one subject at a time? This is worse than Daytime Television!

      Reply
      • 120. Richard A. Jernigan  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:18 pm

        Where do you think the soaps get their ideas? They watch C-SPAN, then modify the events to fit the storyline of the soap.

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  • 121. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:00 pm

    What the heck just happened?

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    • 122. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:02 pm

      I think it was a good step forward, procedurally.

      I need a huge bowl of popcorn….but it might give me away at work.

      Reply
      • 123. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:04 pm

        Popcorn sounds good right now – thanks – gonna pop some now? Extra butter!

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      • 125. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:04 pm

        eating a large bowl of organic greens….less conspicuous…

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        • 126. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:08 pm

          Etaname Beans (sp?) would be good. They can inconspicuously fit in your breast pocket, which can be replenished.

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          • 127. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:17 pm

            spitting water on keyboard LOL! actually kids love those!…along with sushi and anything anime…

          • 128. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:18 pm

            I believe you’re thinking of Edamame beans (soy beans). I have some in my lunch box. =)

            I’m eating Maple & Brown Sugar Oatmeal right now. It’s much stealthier than some other options.

          • 129. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:25 pm

            “I believe you’re thinking of Edamame beans (soy beans).”

            Correct! Thank you.

            I eat the pod part, too. Though I feel like a cow chewing their cud.

    • 130. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:12 pm

      With the vote? They agreed to have a one hour debate (only one hour) on the actual bill itself, and to allow no amendments to be attached to the bill.

      Now they are deciding whether the US Government should spend its time congratulating sports players on winning major trophies (for which they do, it should be noted, already receive considerable congratulations). They seem to have decided that they should offer their congratulations. How nice of them.

      Now they are going to vote on whether to congratulate Gerta Weisman Klein on receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom. One thinks that perhaps, there does not need to be a vote on these issues… And if the congress were to vote to SNUB Ms. Klein, who survived a forced march through Poland after capture by the Nazis during WW2, then I, for one, would never invite THEM to tea again. The Congress, I mean. I have already struck the Nazis off the invite list. Ms. Klein is welcome any time.

      After that, we will hear a one hour debate, then the REAL DADT vote. I think.

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      • 131. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:18 pm

        Thank goodness, they voted unanimously NOT to snub Ms. Klein. I will go put on the kettle.

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    • 132. adambink  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:16 pm

      It was a formality but a good step forward.

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  • 133. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    How odd that they look eager to hurry and vote to congratulate a sports figure. But for civil rights, that’s more iffy.

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    • 134. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:02 pm

      DOH!!!

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  • 135. Chris  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    So what does this mean? They voted on the rule, and now they vote on the bill, and if the bill passes, then what? They vote to decide whether it really passed or not?

    When will whatever happens today translate to openly gay soldiers not being discharged?

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    • 136. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:08 pm

      It will have to also pass the Senate and then be signed by Obama to become law. Also, It will so not go into effect immediately.

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      • 137. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:22 pm

        ♫ I’m just a bill. Yes, I’m only a bill. And I’m sittin’ here on Capitol Hill. ♫

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        • 138. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  December 16, 2010 at 6:09 am

          “conjunction junction what’s your function… ” too funny…haven’t thought of schoolhouse rock for about 20 years!….

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  • 139. James Tuttle  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    OMG I thought that Heisman thing was a joke…lol really House, really?

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    • 140. Kate  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:09 pm

      I guess the Heisman winner must be straight.

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      • 141. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:20 pm

        Of course he is. Only straight men play football, don’cha know?!

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    • 142. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:14 pm

      Our local City Council takes up half their public meeting time handing out stupid plaques to their supporters. It’s such a waste of time. Total log-rolling.

      Probably someone from that guy’s state wants it to be in the paper that one of their own got a framed congrats from Capital Hill.

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    • 143. adambink  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:15 pm

      Actually, they do this a lot- congratulating Medal of Freedom winners, Nobel Prize winners, Heisman winners, people who land planes in the middle of the Hudson River, commemorating National Physician Assistant week, etc.

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      • 144. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:18 pm

        My great great grandfather invented the lettered tab divider found in dictionaries.

        Where’s my parade?

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        • 145. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:21 pm

          McCain threatened to filibuster the award back in your great great grandfather’s day. Apparently, the threat is still on the table. =(

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          • 146. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:28 pm

            Damn poopy-head!

            Evil never sleeps….

    • 147. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:16 pm

      OH yes, they spend MOST of their time on this sort of crap. Earlier it was to vote some day in January as officially “Tom Smith” day (or whoever it was, I’ve already forgotten, as has everyone there in the House) who was some sort of activist. This is what we pay our elected leaders to do… come up with these live altering issues that concern so many people.

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  • 148. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:19 pm

    OK… NOW the actual debate on the DADT bill starts, and in one hour they vote on it.

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    • 149. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:22 pm

      No – not until popcorn is done!

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      • 150. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:23 pm

        Don’t worry, Adam has got you covered.

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  • 151. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    “THE HOUSE IS NOT IN ORDER!”

    I think that every morning, after rolling out of bed and looking around…

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  • 152. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    The opposition just said “bling” instead of “bring”.

    Don’t know if that’s a good sign or not….

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    • 153. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:30 pm

      Doesn’t he look like a thinner Henry Kissinger, somewhat?

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  • 154. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    AAAAaaannd the Republicans are back to procedure. Deal with the SUBSTANCE.

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  • 155. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    Buck Buck Buck – it’s your own party’s fault we don’t have a National Defense Fund – just vote already and quit being an obstructionist.

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    • 156. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:34 pm

      Is “buck buck buck” the sound of a chicken, or are you referring to my beloved good-for-nothing Representative, Buck McKeon?

      Hmmm. I suppose it could be both…

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      • 157. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:35 pm

        Your good for nuttin rep. Buck Buck Buck – I have a dollar to get him to stop chatin’

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        • 158. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:38 pm

          He doesn’t need money. He needs a soul.

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          • 159. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:39 pm

            It was a failed way of “the buck stops here” – popcorn high.

  • 160. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Buck Buck Buck – you vote to repeal now and then take time getting every duck in a row – or it gets done in the court and no ducky ducky ducky Buck!

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  • 161. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    McKeon is full of excrement. He was going on about the Armed Services Committee not having a go at this bill. They DID have it.

    McKeon wants to wait till we are at peace and there is no potential for upcoming war to do this thing. Can we deploy HIM somewhere?

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    • 162. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:35 pm

      Also….is there any assurance we will ever “be at peace”, at this rate?

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  • 163. Ed  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    Ca. Buck Mckeon is an idiot, sorry

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    • 164. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:34 pm

      Yeah… and he’s my district’s idiot. >.<

      Don't blame me. Everyone in my house voted against the jerk…

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  • 165. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    I’m quite sure Marines can do more than 1 thing at once. Aren’t they supposedly our elite?

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    • 166. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:36 pm

      How can they POSSIBLY think about killing someone if they’re afraid a male is thinking lustful thoughts in their general direction?

      I can’t possibly roll my eyes enough.

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      • 167. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:38 pm

        lol – I can see it now – a marine running with his arms flailing around

        “ewe ewe ewe, get him away, he looked at my…get him away from me…MOMMY.”

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    • 168. fiona64  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:20 pm

      I’ll tell you what my soldier and sailor friends said about the Marines:

      Muscles
      Are
      Required
      Intelligence
      Not
      Essential

      Love,
      Fiona

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      • 169. Richard A. Jernigan  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:41 pm

        And from the pictures I have seen of him, General Amos no longer has the muscles that are required. Maybe that is why he is so afraid of allowing open LGBT members in the Marines. He is afraid that one of them who actually goes to the gym might cart him off to fulfill his fantasies. Either that or he is afraid that they will tell him they don’t want him!

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  • 170. Sheryl Carver  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    Am working very sincerely to not throw something at my screen. My more primitive nature just wants to administer what we called in the USAF “wall-to-wall counseling.” (This is when you grab the one being counseled by the front of his shirt & slam him from one wall to the other until he realizes the error of his ways.)

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    • 171. Sheryl Carver  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:38 pm

      In case it wasn’t clear, the counseling would be given to all the Republicans who are speaking garbage in trying to prevent repeal.

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    • 172. Richard A. Jernigan  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:31 pm

      Can I help? I would love to administer some of that counseling to our own chickens**t Senator Richard Burr!

      Reply
      • 173. Sheryl Carver  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:40 pm

        Richard, I would be honored to be your co-counselor.

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        • 174. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:42 pm

          After you deal with your chickens, come to Arizona – we have some wild ducks that needs dealing with.

          Reply
          • 175. Richard A. Jernigan  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:48 pm

            Actually, I had no intentions of letting McLame make it back to Arizona before beginning his counseling sessions. I thought we would conduct those in Washington, DC.

          • 176. Sheryl Carver  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:48 pm

            I think Richard was not referring to chickens, but using an organic output of chickens as an adjective to describe his Senator, Mr. Burr.

        • 177. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:51 pm

          Even better Richard – keep him far away from the state – but can you lure Gov. Brewer to Washington too? She’s one of our duckies.

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          • 178. Richard A. Jernigan  |  December 15, 2010 at 5:52 pm

            Can we pack her in the UPS box to Uganda? Because to be honest, I really do not want that imitation human being on US soil!

  • 179. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Pelosi just quoted todays ABC poll that says 1 in 8 Americans are ok with men and women who are openly gay and lesbian serving in the military.

    1 in 8 people. i in 8.

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    • 180. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:45 pm

      1 in 8? I didn’t hear her say it. Didn’t she mean 8 in 10?

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    • 181. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:47 pm

      Err… that is what I meant… I typed in a hurry and am at work. Supposed to be doing other things… OOOPS.

      8 in 10 Yay!!!

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  • 182. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Oh! Nice speach from Pelosi. And it’s refreshing to hear someone correctly use the term “sexual orientation” amigst all this.

    Reply
  • 183. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Joe Wilson proudly joins in “being concerned.” LOL

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    • 184. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:47 pm

      These guys were earlier voting on whether or not to congratulate sports players – remove all of those stupid votes and repeal DADT and then take that extra time to deal with the national defense fund you dummies.

      Reply
  • 185. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    Am I imagining it, or are the Democrats better public speakers?

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  • 186. Sheryl Carver  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    Apparently all the Repubs have forgotten that THEY are the ones who prevented the Senate from dealing with anything until the Tax Cut bill was passed.

    Reply
    • 187. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:56 pm

      Awww — the poor things. They had to hold their breath until they turned blue. Naturally, there was some brain damage from all that oxygen deprivation.

      Reply
  • 188. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    The Arkansas speaker was lovely. Talking about how the world his children are growing up in is changing for the better.

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  • 189. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    Did Roscoe Bartlett just claim they didn’t have time to pass the defense authorization bill? I thought the House already passed that ages ago.

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    • 190. adambink  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:51 pm

      They did. Senate Republicans held it hostage.

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      • 191. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:53 pm

        That’s what I thought. Maybe I misunderstood him, but I thought he was saying the House didn’t have time to pass it.

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  • 192. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    Akin looks a little like David Boies.

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  • 193. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:50 pm

    All the Republicans seem to be debating is the debate – they have no real reason to not repeal DADT – do they?

    You are already taking the time, make a statement about DADT already.

    Reply
  • 194. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Solar eclipse mumbo-jumbo?

    Well, I guess Todd Akins’ mindset IS back in the era of King Arthur’s court.

    Reply
  • 195. Mackenzie  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    not to be disrespectful but some of the House reps seem to be pretty dense. Do they even pay attention to what is going on around them?

    Reply
    • 196. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:53 pm

      They have absolutely no reason to NOT repeal DADT – so they are just using up their time. I guess.

      Reply
  • 197. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    Vote YES!

    Reply
    • 198. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:57 pm

      Lewis is very passionate! I am glad he is on our side.

      Reply
  • 199. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:56 pm

    Lamborn says the survey was flawed because it did not ask “should DADT be repealed?”

    Which has been answered by ALL the top brass saying “We don’t ask. We give orders, the servicepeople follow the orders. So the survey asked ‘what do you think the impact would be’ which gets to the point just as well.”

    Moron.

    Reply
  • 200. Sheryl Carver  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:57 pm

    Is ANY Democrat going to point out that it is the Repubs who prevented the Defense Bill from being passed?

    Reply
    • 201. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:58 pm

      That and again reiterate if it doesn’t happen now, it will happen in the courts.

      Reply
      • 202. Kathlene  |  December 15, 2010 at 6:10 pm

        Both of those points need to be made more often.

        Reply
  • 203. adambink  |  December 15, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    Open predictions on the # in favor above, folks. Getting to 250 would be great.

    Reply
    • 204. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:01 pm

      I would really like to see how Diaz-Balart votes… I somehow think he is going to vote for repeal.

      Reply
  • 205. James Tuttle  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Oh jeeze..who is this jackwagon?

    Reply
  • 206. James Tuttle  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    Oops I mean on CSPAN not anyone here lol

    Reply
    • 207. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:04 pm

      He was a Marine who was skeered that some other Marine was gonna pinch his butt during a mission. Putz.

      Reply
      • 208. James Tuttle  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:05 pm

        lol hes not even cute.

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      • 209. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:10 pm

        Is it just my overactive imagination or does it strike anyone else that half these guy seem like closet cases?

        Reply
        • 210. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:12 pm

          For the sake of my gay brothers and sisters – I surely hope not.

          Reply
          • 211. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:15 pm

            Point taken. :)

  • 212. Straight Ally #3008  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:03 pm

    To those going with the “now is not the time” argument:

    We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. Frankly, I have yet to engage in a direct action campaign that was “well timed” in the view of those who have not suffered unduly from the disease of segregation. For years now I have heard the word “Wait!” It rings in the ear of every Negro with piercing familiarity. This “Wait” has almost always meant “Never.” We must come to see, with one of our distinguished jurists, that “justice too long delayed is justice denied.”

    -Martin Luther King, Jr., “Letter from a Birmingham Jail”

    Reply
    • 213. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:05 pm

      I got goosebumps reading that. No truer words written.

      Reply
  • 214. Sheryl Carver  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    Do we need only a simple majority to pass the repeal in the House or is it a higher percentage?

    Reply
  • 215. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:07 pm

    Fleming says DADT has been working just fine. What planet has he been on?

    Reply
    • 216. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:11 pm

      I’m sure it’s been working fine for those straight (or closeted) service members who have been squeezing their eyes tight, putting their fingers in their ears, muttering “la la la there are only straight people here la la la” & pretending nobody around them is GLBT.

      Reply
  • 217. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    They keep going back to “haven’t done enough study”.

    I really have to stop listening for a while.

    Reply
  • 218. James Tuttle  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:09 pm

    Yeah….it has worked fine for HIM not for the thousands of people discharged under this policy..many who were sought out for their homosexuality, not for their coming out on their own.

    Reply
  • 219. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    I am experiencing mood swings…how surreal if this doen’t pass?

    Reply
  • 220. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    Hoyer must be following the Trial Tracker on his cell phone – just reiterated all the points we were making.

    Reply
    • 221. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:20 pm

      I ♥ Steny Hoyer – I want to trade McCain for him!

      Reply
      • 222. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:26 pm

        I like that the letter he read quoted someone who wasn’t willing to go back into a closeted, higfh school environment.

        Basically, someone’s stance on this boils down to whether they’re a grownup, or a little baby.

        Reply
    • 223. Sheryl Carver  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:21 pm

      Mr. Hoyer is one of the BEST speakers yet! His constituency must be very proud of him.

      Reply
    • 224. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:22 pm

      He could do worse in getting the opinion of the intelligent, well thought out people.

      Reply
    • 225. adambink  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:29 pm

      Ha. Love it. Actually, I know for a fact that some members read P8TT and my home blog, OpenLeft.com.

      Reply
  • 226. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    Oh dear… Gohmert. Make it stop… make it stop.

    Reply
    • 227. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:27 pm

      What a hick. He needs a corncob pipe and a hound dog….

      Reply
      • 228. Sheryl Carver  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:33 pm

        Please don’t condemn an innocent hound dog to a life with such an ignorant bigot like Gohmert. :-)

        Reply
        • 229. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:00 pm

          How about a plushie in the form of a hound dog?

          Reply
  • 230. Straight Ally #3008  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    Perhaps this is what Rep. Hunter is picturing.

    Reply
  • 231. James Tuttle  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Yes..I’m so sure he has heard that from hundreds of people saying they won’t re-enlist. I really don’t like this guy.

    Reply
    • 232. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:40 pm

      And wasn’t the survey anonymous? Why is he saying these soldiers are having to sneak over to him to voice their true feelings?

      If they want to go…they should go.

      Let them get jobs as mall security guards somewhere.

      Reply
      • 233. Sheryl Carver  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:44 pm

        Remember, Cookie, Repubs have no problem rewriting history, including very recent history like the survey being anonymous.

        Reply
  • 234. anonygrl  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    They started this one hour debate one hour and ten minutes ago. When are we done?

    Reply
    • 235. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:39 pm

      I think the clock only runs when they’re doing their speeches. All the yielding of minutes and permission to yield time doesn’t count.

      Reply
      • 236. Sheryl Carver  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:52 pm

        This is like watching a football game. It takes 3 hours or more to play a 1-hour game.

        Reply
  • 237. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:33 pm

    You tell them Barney : )

    Reply
  • 238. James Tuttle  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    I really hate the term “lifestyle choice”. If people only knew what it was like…it frustrates me SOOO much.

    Reply
    • 239. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:41 pm

      It’s a ridiculous term in this context. There are many things about my lifestyle that I choose; my sexual orientation is not one of them.

      Reply
    • 240. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:44 pm

      It is actually ridiculous to think that anyone would choose to be gay, bisexual or transgendered – simply idiotic.

      Reply
    • 241. Straight Ally #3008  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:50 pm

      “Homosexuality is a choice! That is a choice people make, to…engage…in this…deliciously decadent lifestyle!”

      -David Cross, using a faux preacher voice

      Reply
  • 242. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:45 pm

    Loretta Sanchez – a voice of reason from behind the orange curtain.

    Reply
  • 244. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:49 pm

    It’s very strange that we have this military force putting their live at risk as it goes off to “bring liberty” to the rest of the world….and its soldiers don’t enjoy personal liberty, themselves.

    Weird.

    Reply
    • 245. Straight Ally #3008  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:57 pm

      I see it in terms of integrity and discrimination, myself. There will be some amount of personal freedom curtailed in an organization like the military, but DADT directly compromises the integrity of LGBT troops, and discriminates against them.

      Reply
  • 246. adambink  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    Hey all, Courage will have a special announcement after the vote for you all. Stay tuned for a new post.

    Reply
    • 247. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:53 pm

      Is is about the 9th circuit court? (just hoping)

      Reply
      • 248. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:57 pm

        Maybe my great great grandfather is at last getting that plaque??

        (see 12:21 pm)

        Reply
      • 249. James Tuttle  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:59 pm

        Wow…that’s exactly what I was hoping too.

        Reply
    • 250. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:03 pm

      Special Event eh? Got me quite curious.

      Reply
      • 251. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:15 pm

        Cookie coupons, maybe???????

        Reply
  • 252. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Oh! That Jay guy from Washington is boisterous and punchy! And I like the dignified guy with the beard talking about “the back of the bus”.

    Reply
  • 253. Ed  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Rep Al Green from houston absolutely nailed it!!

    Reply
  • 254. James Tuttle  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Oh goody…wonder what it is?

    Reply
  • 255. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Why do they keep going on about the Marines, when they’re just a small percentage of the military?

    Reply
    • 256. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:58 pm

      Because their head is so very anti-repeal. They’re the roughest, toughest branch — so many people seem to think they don’t have gay men (and that they don’t want them).

      Once DADT is repealed, I will be curious to find out if there’s a roughly equal percentage of GLBTs in each branch, or if there are significant differences.

      Reply
      • 257. Richard A. Jernigan  |  December 15, 2010 at 5:58 pm

        My first husband was a Marine. And I am quite certain that he is spinning in his grave wanting to get hold of General Amos and shake some sense into him.

        Reply
  • 258. Ed  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    so its now?? 15 min?

    Reply
  • 259. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    15 minute vote – here we go.

    Reply
  • 260. James Tuttle  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    *Crosses fingers*

    Reply
  • 261. Straight Ally #3008  |  December 15, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    The bill will pass, it’s just a question of how much positive impact, if any, it will have on the Senate. Not that it isn’t a great thing in and of itself, mind you!

    Reply
    • 262. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:06 pm

      Ooops….so in these remaining minutes, aside from the president certifying it or whatever…the other step is getting it through the senate? What leverage do we have, there?

      Reply
    • 263. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:08 pm

      In the Senate, it’s S.4023 – the bill we’ve been advocating for here for the last week of so.

      Reply
  • 264. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:00 pm

    The repugs seem stumped….their votes are tricking in way slower.

    Do they have to call their mommies?

    Reply
    • 265. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:01 pm

      Perhaps they are waiting for their puppeteers to tell them how to vote?

      Reply
  • 266. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    This matter doesn’t directly affect me (though I have a couple of gay friends who would might re-enlist) — yet I’m sitting here with an elevated heart rate and with my heart in my throat.

    *crosses fingers*
    *crosses ankles for good measure*

    Reply
    • 267. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:07 pm

      My cat is on my lap, her paws are crossed too!

      Reply
      • 268. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:14 pm

        Oooh – please scratch her behind the ears for me (if she likes that). =^..^=

        Reply
        • 269. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:16 pm

          She loves it! She’s an old kitten – 18 human years.

          Reply
          • 270. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:18 pm

            Kittehs rock. We have 6 of them. =)

  • 271. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    Do they need a 2/3 vote here? Or just a majority vote?

    Reply
    • 272. Straight Ally #3008  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:12 pm

      To my knowledge, it’s just simple majority.

      Reply
  • 273. Andrew_SEA  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    It is disconcerting that not even ONE Republican said anything affirming this at all.

    Not ONE!

    They approve of discrimination?

    Reply
    • 274. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:11 pm

      Yet there are 7 Republicans voting YEA on it – so far

      Reply
    • 275. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:15 pm

      Most of them do, yes. Some of the ones who don’t will pretend that they do because they know it’s the only way they’ll keep their cushy job if their constituents are a bunch of red-necked hicks.

      Reply
  • 276. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    15 minute time clock is done 0:00 but they are still voting?

    Reply
  • 277. James Tuttle  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    YAY!!!!! Its passed!

    Reply
  • 278. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    How long now before the Senate takes up their vote?

    Reply
  • 279. James Tuttle  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    Even if all the leftover votes were nay we Yea still has a majority. Sweet!

    Reply
  • 280. Randy  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    It’s passed!! Yay!!

    Reply
    • 281. nightshayde  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:19 pm

      Hallelujah!

      Now for the Senate. *sigh*

      Reply
  • 282. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:19 pm

    Sooooo…..what’s it all mean?

    Reply
  • 283. James Tuttle  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    More good News, Senator Olympia Snowe has pledged her support for repeal of DADT.

    Reply
    • 284. Lesbians Love Boies  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:22 pm

      I was just reading that – Great news.

      Reply
    • 285. Carpool Cookie  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:26 pm

      Well, I certainly think her name is appropriately glamorous to come over to our side…

      “Ladies and gentlemen, please join me in welcoming, Madam Olympia Snowe….”[/i]

      Reply
    • 286. Straight Ally #3008  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:26 pm

      OK, that’s MAJOR good news.

      Reply
  • 287. Elizabeth Oakes  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:21 pm

    Woot. Now call your Senator.

    Reply
  • 288. Rhie  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Yup. Now they can go home and blame the Senate.

    Reply
  • 289. Straight Ally #3008  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    The bill passes 250-175 with 9 not voting. Great news. It got 16 more votes than in May, with 10 more Republicans voting yea.

    Cram that one down your throat, Tony Perkins.

    Reply
    • 290. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:30 pm

      Yes!

      Reply
    • 291. Elizabeth Oakes  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:31 pm

      *naughty giggle at you, SA*

      Reply
    • 292. Andrew_SEA  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:38 pm

      He can’t… it’s not polite when your mouth is already full!

      Reply
    • 293. Kathlene  |  December 15, 2010 at 6:33 pm

      10 Republicans? Color me shocked.

      Reply
      • 294. Kathleen  |  December 15, 2010 at 6:57 pm

        10 more than in May. Total 15.

        Reply
  • 295. Elizabeth Oakes  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    So maybe we won’t have marriage equality by the end of the year, but we might get DADT repealed for Christmas. Thank you Santa and Dan Choi (whom we all hope is recovering speedily.)

    Reply
    • 296. celdd  |  December 15, 2010 at 3:12 pm

      It would be great if Harry Reid could visit him in the hospital and give him his ring back.

      Reply
      • 297. Sagesse  |  December 15, 2010 at 6:21 pm

        I was thinking the same thing.

        Reply
      • 298. Straight Ally #3008  |  December 15, 2010 at 7:23 pm

        Amazing image!

        Reply
  • 299. gregory in salt lake city  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    Woot!!!!!!

    Reply
  • 300. Bob  |  December 15, 2010 at 2:45 pm

    wow, what a ride, woot woot to America,,,, from my igloo,,, if I do move to America, I want that job in the house, the one where the person gets to bang the hammer, and tell everyone to get the hous in order……thud, thud,,, thud,,,,

    the first step in the hail mary pass……

    Hail Mary mother of god, bless us sinners now and in the hour of our need Amen…

    I think it’s so cool that our prayer could be to the first woman ever in recorded history, to listen to an innner voice asking her to do something very untraditional, using other means to become pregnant, without allowing her body to be penetrated by a male penis, she was one brilliant woman that Mary, seizing the moment with a resonding and celbatory YES, giving birth for the first time ever without putting obvious body parts together, conceiving a male child,, and changing humankind forever..

    tto bad the focus was on the male child, he did all he could to honor that place in history,

    Hail Mary, the mother of the God who religious bigots idolize falsely……… it took a yes vote from a woman to alter the course of humanity……..

    Reply
  • 301. adambink  |  December 15, 2010 at 3:06 pm

    Everyone, we’re hosting a nationwide conference call with Rep. Patrick Murphy tonight at 4 PM PST/7 PM EST. You can get the call-in number via below.

    http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/UrgentDADTCall

    Reply
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