Death, NOM and taxes

January 1, 2011 at 3:59 pm 77 comments

By Adam Bink

The intrepid Fred Karger, as much an expert on NOM as anyone I know, notes NOM’s trouble paying taxes:

The four year old National Organization for Marriage (NOM), and the National Organization for Marriage Foundation (NOMF) has once again failed to file its required Federal Income Tax Returns. Their IRS 2009 returns for both of these non-profits, their 501(c)3 and 501(c)4 were due on May 15, 2010. If they received an extension, then they were due October 15, 2010. Now they are 2 ½ months LATE!

How do you say, “Front Group?” I went again to the NOM National Office at 2029 K Street, NW, Suite 300, Washington, DC 20006 to see their 2009 Tax Returns. Notice the UPS delivery slip on the doorknob. Neighbors said they never see anyone there, yet they are leading the fight against gay marriage in 14 states.

I recently visited their new National Office in Washington, DC twice during regular office hours to view the returns. No one was there. They must make them available to anyone during regular business hours. We also have checked online repeatedly for their 2009 returns, and again, nothing. What is NOM trying to hide? Why do they not file their tax returns every year?

Déjà Vu

I went through the identical exercise in 2009 when I attempted to view NOM’s 2007 and 2008 990’s, but they never filed those either. We visited their then National Office in Princeton, NJ many times and no one was ever there either.

One set of 990’s was 5 months late. The other set was 17 months late, when finally, the night before NOM President Brian Brown was to testify in front of the Maine Ethics Commission last year, all of their delinquent tax returns magically appeared on the NOM web site.

It was too late to stave off a State of Maine investigation of NOM, because in spite of threatening to sue the State of Maine (which NOM eventually did), the Maine Ethics Commission voted to investigate the National Organization for Marriage for election “Money Laundering.”

NOM is not above the law. They need to file their Income Tax Returns like everyone else and every other organization. We are entitled to see just how much money they raised and spent in 2009. Whom are they trying to protect?

NOM President Brian Brown getting questioned by reporters right after Maine Ethics Commission voted to investigate his organization for alleged money laundering.

NOM has sued 14 states to invalidate those state’s campaign finance laws. 12 of those lawsuits were in 2010 alone. NOM hopes to invalidate those state’s election laws, so when they spend their millions in those 14 states, it would not have to be reported.

NOM goes into these states and attacks anyone and everyone viciously that dares to support marriage equality in this country, and they do it without obeying election laws. They even subpoenaed me last year as soon as I filed the complaint against them in Maine. They are relentless.

It has been amazing to watch NOM flouting campaign finance laws in state after state. They may win in court on some. Taxes are another story, though.

Entry filed under: NOM Exposed.

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77 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Mandi  |  January 1, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Subscribing

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  • 3. Sarah  |  January 1, 2011 at 4:23 pm

    I would be interested to know how common this is among for-profit companies, 501(c)3s, etc. It astounds me that there is such a complete lack of respect for our government that this would occur two years in a row. There is something very fishy going on, I’d say…

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  • 4. Bob  |  January 1, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    fishy indeed, just think, the symbol of the fish=christianity,,,, and get Fiona to define the difference between Nom’s version, and the true version of what christianity means,,,,,,

    in this case Nom’s using the fish, hauling in netfuls of cash donations, imorally,,,,,

    and I’d say ya we gotta keep on em,,, for too long Americans have bought into a false version of christianity, and allowed abuse of power, gov’t , and the laws, to become the norm,,,, we gotta expose that,,,

    so glad someone is following up, going to their supposed offices, and asking to see tax returns, that is so important……. report the nomfailures every time,,,

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    • 5. Joe  |  January 2, 2011 at 8:29 pm

      Watched a very tear producing documentary today called 8 the Mormon proposition. It talks mostly about the Mormon church and mentioned NOM, which they created with the minimal help of Christian churches. The Mormon church is the largest contributor to NOM by far. Not surprising from a church that took until the 1970’s to let African Americans join.

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      • 6. Sheryl, Mormon Mother of a wonderful son who just happens to be gay  |  January 2, 2011 at 10:59 pm

        Just to clarify, Joe, it is individual church members who make the donations to NOM. Yes, these are high up in the hiearchy individuals (with the blessing, encouragement, leadership from the LDS church leadership and with direction (at least in Calif.) for the general membership to make donations to Protect Marriage). The church did get a gentle hand slap because they did not provide information on church donations to the Prop 8 campaign in the necessary timeframe. And, I think the Catholics are also a very prominent donors to NOM. Of course, it would be nice if NOM would comply with law and we could really know who the donors are.

        Sheryl, Mormon Mother

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        • 7. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 3, 2011 at 5:07 pm

          And within the Catholic Church, the largest contributors, both of money and time to campaign, have been members of the Knights of Columbus. I know because I am a former third degree Knight, and I remember how I began to feel disgusted with them for doing so, and how they are still braging about working to help NOM.

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          • 8. Lesbians Love Boies  |  January 3, 2011 at 5:22 pm

            Quite a few of the Knights of Columbus groups are at risk of revocation of their tax exempt status. I was surprised to see how many are on the list. http://www.irs.gov/charities/article/0,,id=225889,00.html

        • 9. Joe  |  January 3, 2011 at 8:18 pm

          The documentary did make that point, but made the point that the church was VERY persuasive with it’s members in regards to their contribution.

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      • 10. Carpool Cookie  |  January 3, 2011 at 3:31 pm

        Yes, that is a very thought-provoking documentary. One of the people profiled in it checks in here at P8TT, and has the website mormonsformarriage, which is supportive of Marriage Equality.

        There are Mormons who are on our side, and most members did NOT contribute. The LDS (as well as the Catholic Church) was unquestionably, deeply involved in funding Proposition H8, but not every single church member in either faith was.

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  • 11. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 1, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    The only ones NOM is trying to protect are the bigots like themselves who are trying to turn this country from a freedom loving nation into a theocracy with NOM’s version of sharia law as the only law. However, if they continue on their current path, they will completely fail and implode, for all they are doing is heaping the coals of judgment ever higher upon their own heads. More people are finding out what NOM is truly all about, and they are fleeing in droves.

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  • 12. Richard W. Fitch  |  January 1, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Good to know Fred is on *our* side.

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  • 13. Sagesse  |  January 1, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    NOM related. The NOM interview with RNC Chairman and candidate Michael Steele. “I’m not anti-gay, I just virulently oppose any move to grant rights to LGBT people.” I’m paraphrasing, but not by much.

    Michael Steele Calls DADT Repeal ‘Dangerous’; Opposition To Gay Marriage Not Anti-Gay

    http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=7224&MediaType=1&Category=26

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    • 14. Ann S.  |  January 1, 2011 at 5:25 pm

      I always knew I didn’t like Michael Steele. Here’s another reason why.

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      • 15. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 1, 2011 at 5:49 pm

        And he is NOT anti-gay if you happen to be a lesbian who is into bondage!

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        • 16. Ann S.  |  January 1, 2011 at 6:00 pm

          Oh, that’s right. That doesn’t happen to be me, though.

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          • 17. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 1, 2011 at 6:30 pm

            Or me. Of course, a lot of what Michael Steele has said in the past when he goes about verbally bashing the LGBT community definitely sounds like he is projecting his own fantasies onto all of us, without bothering to get to know any of us.

    • 18. Bob  |  January 1, 2011 at 5:39 pm

      beat those war drums mr Steele, and know that we hear them loudly, they reverberate through us, and beat inside our hearts, the LGBT community dances too , ever stronger, thanks to your challenge,,,,,

      and so right you are, the end of DADT has altered the course of human history,,,,,,

      I learn so much from my dialog with my own church on these issues,,,, have been doing reading about Chaplains in the military,,,,, wow, it now has become a place where all religions must be respected,,, I read of other chaplains finding the space and providing resources for a small coven of Wiccans to honor their spiritual source,,, Muslims and Jews, are equally as welcome as Christians, indeed it has become an atmosphere that reflects the reality of the world we live in…….

      And of course mainstream christian religions find this a huge loss, and major threat, they have been asked to place themselves in proper perspective, and find ways to honor their religious beliefs without denegrating those of others,,,,

      How huge a win for human rights,,,,,, when the military itself lives up to those standards,,,,, imagine the fear instilled in those bigots who are accustomed to spewing hatred so freely from their pulpits, they have just been called to preach to a higher standard,,,,,, and rather than see that as a way of improving their ministry,, they beat the war drums, in vain….

      and ours beat back even louder…. hopefully the goal is to eventually have them both beat together and in sinc, for the good of all, and to harm none….

      yes let the RNC scream, and let those screams turn to cries, and those cries turn to mourning, and acceptance…

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  • 19. Ronnie  |  January 1, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    Oh NOM……FAIL!!!….. : / ……Ronnie

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  • 20. Sagesse  |  January 1, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Vallejo Kindergarten Class Teaches Gay Marriage as Nomal

    http://www.apostolicnews.org/2011/01/vallejo-kindergarten-class-teaches-gay-marriage-as-nomal/

    “After hours of comment and debate, the board voted to leave the program intact and mandatory for all students.”

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    • 21. Sheryl, Mormon Mother of a wonderful son who just happens to be gay  |  January 2, 2011 at 11:18 pm

      While I think acceptance needs to be taught at all levels, not sure I agree with all age groups receiving the same instruction. I think the material needs to be age appropriate. And, discussions should certainly not lead to Christian (or any other religion) bashing (that is also bullying). Of course, I haven’t seen the material presented, just my impressions from reading the article. And, this just goes to fuel the fire of the anti-equality saying that learning about gay marriage (or in their opinion sex) will be forced on their children.

      Sheryl, Mormon Mother

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      • 22. Kathleen  |  January 3, 2011 at 1:52 am

        I think the material comes from this project:
        http://groundspark.org/respect-for-all

        It’s hard to know if the discussions are leading to “Christian bashing” or if a discussion challenging some of the fundamentalist notions about glbt people are being perceived as such by people not used to having their views challenged. Without having heard the discussions, all we have is the report of one person’s statement at a school board meeting alleging that that’s where the discussions end up.

        As for children being ‘forced’ to learn that same-sex couples exist, get married and form families, if parents don’t want their children to be exposed to this reality, let them send them to fundamentalist religious schools or home school them. Sadly, parents have the right to raise little bigots if they want. It’s America.

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        • 23. Andrew_SEA  |  January 4, 2011 at 12:05 pm

          True Kathleen…

          The sad thing is that when it comes to LGBT people, the hets get that “icky” feeling and cringe when talking to their children about the topic.

          Personally – I just don’t get it. In the world we live in, there are very awful things: Murder, Rape, Incest, drugs, genocide, terrorism, etc: etc:

          As a parent – your role is to educate your child on the ethics and morals you wish to instill them with to be able to handle this world and become an adult.

          The more I read on the topic, many against SSM can talk about the murder, rape, etc:, but when it comes to why Sally loves Janet, they cringe and get the “icky” uncomfortableness when talking about sexual issues with their child.

          If it is not what you favor – teach your child that. But don’t eliminate an entire demographic’s rights and equality simply because you cringe at that “icky” conversation or it is not what your religious views believe.

          It is as simple as that.

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  • 24. John  |  January 1, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    The article referenced by this blog post notes that NOM is an SPLC hate group. It’s unfortunately not – it’s one of the groups listed in the same article that lists the hate groups, yes, but does not have an “*” next to it showing that they are a group that spreads lies about gays, but not enough so to be officially classified as an SPLC hate group. Sadly.

    See: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology/anti-gay/active_hate_groups

    The original article that was a bit unclear (note that only *13* of the 18 groups listed are hate groups according to the SPLC – they have “*” next to their name):

    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/the-hard-liners

    Basically, the SPLC has set a high bar to call someone a hate group – one that they don’t think NOM has quite met yet, but give them time…

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    • 25. Bob Barnes  |  January 2, 2011 at 7:56 am

      John you are correct, NOM is not officially listed. But their mention is important, as the watchdogs keep tallies on their actions. Also something to note is their affiliations with several hate groups and their outright support for these hate groups.

      What also angers me is NOM’s blind eye on Bryan Fischer’s holocaust revisionism.

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  • 26. Sagesse  |  January 1, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    Partisan Political Advocacy Yields Failed Politics

    http://riseofthecenter.com/2011/01/01/partisan-political-advocacy-yields-failed-politics/

    “Context: Many churches condemn all sorts of activities that are common and legal in our secular society, e.g., birth control, abortion, fornication, gambling, pornography, belief in false Gods or prophets (Jesus, Allah, Vishnu) and so on.

    Fact: Churches have been preaching, sometimes vehemently, for decades (centuries, actually) that gay sex is a mortal sin and a horrible, evil abomination.

    Fact: With very few exceptions no U.S. church has ever been sued for (1) hate speech or anything else like that because of preaching or belief that gay sex/marriage is a mortal sin or (2) the other legal things that U.S. churches like to condemn.”

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    • 27. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 1, 2011 at 7:22 pm

      You are correct–no CHURCH has ever been sued. But as we have all seen, this is the thing that the most vehement hate groups use as part of their fear-mongering tactics arsenal. They continually raise the specter that churches will be sued, even though that is patently false. It is only when a group that is a front group for a church or a coalition of churches begins to spread hateful rhetoric and then goes on to inflame others to violence with that rhetoric that anyone is sued, and then it is the front group, not the church.

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    • 28. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 1, 2011 at 7:34 pm

      As I read this article out loud to BZ (I am going to print it out once we return home from this trip), all I could think about were Brian Brown, President Momson, Maggie Gallagher, James Dobson, Focus on the Family, Tony Perkins and the FRC, Porno Pete LaBarbera, Scott LIvely, and all the others of their ilk!

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    • 29. Bob Barnes  |  January 2, 2011 at 8:00 am

      This is a great example of why court battles are important. The religious right can dump a ton of time and money with their, “they’re out to silence the christian” hooey. But in court, no lawyer could even present that argument, and they know it.

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      • 30. Michelle Evans  |  January 2, 2011 at 2:51 pm

        Which is also why they want to keep our equality on the ballot because in their advertising they are allowed to say anything. Although I thought there were laws on the books about truth in advertising, but NOM wouldn’t know anything about that since they never tell the truth anyway, and just hide under their rock.

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  • 31. JAG  |  January 1, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    I dispised religions when I was only in 8th grade as stupid, illogical security blankets for weak people. I still hold that opinion, now long augmented many times by their continual display of hatred in every regard.

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    • 32. Lodi Gal  |  January 2, 2011 at 9:48 am

      I’m not one for religion either, JAG, and have mostly experienced willful ignorance and hateful rhetoric attached to the ancient mythology and magical thinking of fundamentalist beliefs. But, I ran a community website for a little bit and interviewed local clergy during the prop 8 trial, and while most reinforced my negative view of religion, I met a wonderful Episcopalian rector who forced me to challenge my stereotypes. There are some beautiful people out there in the faith community who are strong advocates of equality. I’m with you, and can’t see myself ever adhering to any kind of religious thought–but maybe for some, it works.

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      • 33. Kate  |  January 2, 2011 at 10:09 am

        I’m with you, Lodi Gal; I have “met” so many good people here who are religious that I’ve been forced to face my own stereotypes.

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        • 34. Carpool Cookie  |  January 3, 2011 at 3:37 pm

          Yes…I had been on quite the atheist/agnostic rampage for the past 2 years….and it was actually posters here and at mormonsfor marriage that made me ease up a bit. Now I use the term “Christianist” (as in Fundemental Christians Who Want Their Interpretation of the Bible Superimposed Over/Into Law) where I once used “Christian”.

          Not all religious people are fanatics. It’s not my cup of tea, but (in that Scritural-sounding phrase) So be it.

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  • 35. Kathleen  |  January 1, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Thanks to our P8TTer Jude for bringing this to my attention.

    Equality Calendar-notes birthdays of advocates, dates of important events and other dates significant to the civil rights movement. Printable pdf pages, one for each month.
    http://equalitycalendar.blogspot.com/

    Here’s a direct link to the pages for printing
    √https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0BxWOXIYAXqtJMjY5MTA2YWYtMTRkMS00MjU0LWE1ZDgtZDkxMDg1MDJkYTg1&hl=en

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    • 36. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 1, 2011 at 9:28 pm

      Thank you, Kathleen! I am looking forward to getting home and printing this out!

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  • 37. Mandi  |  January 1, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    @JAG
    Not all religion is like what you’ve been exposed to. And yes, religion is by definition illogical. Aknowleging that, my faith is as strong as ever. Please keep in mind that many supporters are religious in their own ways
    )0( Mandi <3

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    • 38. Chris in Lathrop  |  January 2, 2011 at 7:55 am

      Also @JAG: There are religions that don’t enshrine hatred in their texts. Yes, there are haters in every group. In Wicca, we tend to call you out for it. There are many Christians on this board, including Mormons. And though she doesn’t belong to the P8TT community, my own aunt, who is Mormon, belongs to a pro-marriage-equality group on Facebook. Her son, my cousin, is gay.

      Merry met, Mandi! <|:)

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      • 39. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 2, 2011 at 4:56 pm

        @ JAG–it is not the religion itself that is harmful, it is the misuse of religion by those who are too weak-minded to learn how to think for themselves. My husband is a Lubavitcher Chasidic rabbi, and we live in a military town. Yes, there are those who will misuse religion to ostracize, criticize, and condemn others, but they are now being called out for that behavior more and more, especially when it leads to and/or advocates violence against someone who is different in any way, shape or form. The world is waking up to the fact that bigotry in any form is harmful and is no longer as tolerant of bigotry as in the past. And many of those who are leading this change are people who have a religious belief system that focuses more on the spiritual aspects and the personal relationship with the Higher Divine than in a lot of legalistic fear-mongering.
        And to Chris in Lathrop, although I am a Jew, I would like to say to you and to Mandi, Merry Met! So glad that both of you are part of the P8TT family. I truly hope we get to meet face to face. If either of you ever come to the Fayetteville/Ft. Bragg area of North Carolina, I have a shop I would like to take you to. I think you would both like meeting Silver Sister and company!

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  • 40. Sagesse  |  January 2, 2011 at 7:23 am

    For Gregory, results to show for the equality efforts in Utah.

    In Isolated Utah City, New Clubs for Gay Students

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/02/us/02utah.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha23

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  • 41. Ronnie  |  January 2, 2011 at 9:35 am

    A Pastor who donated to Protect Marriage & backed Proposition 8 in California is, is, is…..a child molester?… shocked…..SHOCKED I tell yah……He is being held on $6Million bail…..wow..Will Protect Marriage return the favor by bailing him out or will his church use the hard earned money their congregation gives them to use for charity?….. Hmm. what a “protect the children” ethical dilemma…..What will “Protect” Marriage ever do?!……OH MY…..GUH!!!!….. : I ….Ronnie:

    CALIFORNIA: Pastor Who Backed Prop 8 Held On Multiple Child Molestation Charges
    http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/01/california-pastor-who-backed-prop-8.html

    (Video/news report & links to more info after the jump through the link.)

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  • 42. Kathleen  |  January 2, 2011 at 9:59 am

    UPDATE in the DOMA cases from Massachusetts;
    The government filed a motion requesting extension of time to file briefs, assented to by the plaintiffs/appellees.

    Order granting Motion and setting new briefing schedule

    The previous schedule had the first brief due December 23. New schedule:

    First Brief – Federal Appellants’ principal brief and joint appendix due January 13, 2011

    Second Brief – Appellee Hara’s principal/response and Appellees Commonwealth of Massachusetts and Gill et al’s brief due March 1, 2011

    Third Brief – Federal Appellants’ response/reply due April 4, 2011

    Fourth Brief – Appellee Hara’s reply brief due April 21, 2011

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  • 43. Vaati Raptor  |  January 2, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Hey everybody, apparently NOM is trying to do this huge fundraiser on facebook as we speak. They flooded my updates with fundraiser posts about how they are doing in several states. It wasn’t until recently that I remembered I had even ‘Liked’ their page so I could keep an eye on things.

    Sorta lost my temper and decided if they are going to be putting the pressure on a bunch of families for money, they had a right to know that none of that money actually helps a single marriage. Posted the following to their page –

    ‘National Organization for Marriage is not a Pro-Marriage organization. They have not given a cent to newly weds to help them get started, they do not have programs to help delay or stop divorce, they offer nothing in the way of helping married couples or their children. The only reason they exist is so gay people CANNOT get married, that’s it.

    All of the money poured into this organization helps NOT A SINGLE FAMILY. Not yours, not anybody’s except the people who are pocketing your money at the top of this project. This money is wasted, there are videos to support the fact that this money is used on events that failed dismally to get support. DO NOT SUPPORT THIS ORGANIZATION if you believe in marriage.

    Do not support this organization if you think your money could be better spent keeping your family fed and not buying rooms in a 5 star hotel for someone who doesn’t deserve it. ‘

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    • 44. Kathleen  |  January 2, 2011 at 11:56 am

      Well done!

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    • 45. ebohlman  |  January 2, 2011 at 3:10 pm

      Actually, I’m starting to think that the primary reason NOM exists is to challenge campaign-finance laws, and the marriage stuff is just a pretext.

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      • 46. John  |  January 2, 2011 at 4:07 pm

        Interesting thought…the scary thing is that I think you might be onto something.

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      • 47. Elizabeth Oakes  |  January 4, 2011 at 10:02 am

        They aren’t mutually exclusive, but it sure seems clear from their actions that they’re paving the way for “The Family” to be able to directly fund their political agenda without detection…or interference.

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    • 48. Bob  |  January 2, 2011 at 3:27 pm

      excellent post great work Vaati Raptor

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    • 49. Kathlene  |  January 3, 2011 at 2:31 am

      Your comment is much more eloquent and much less profane than anything I would have written. Bravo!

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  • 50. Gew  |  January 2, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    So. How long do they get to “flout” before the law steps in?

    If it’s obvious what they’re doing, why are they allowed to do it?

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    • 51. Michelle Evans  |  January 2, 2011 at 2:57 pm

      They do it because they say they can. Just like they say that their “law” should be the only law of the land. Their “god’s law” is above any puny country’s law like those here in America, or anywhere for that matter. Brain says it’s true, so it is true.

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    • 52. Kathlene  |  January 7, 2011 at 3:07 am

      That’s what I’ve been asking all along.

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  • 53. Sagesse  |  January 2, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    Debate next week, starts Monday at The Economist: Evan Wolfson vs Maggie Gallagher. Note how the proposition is phrased.

    “This house believes that gay marriage should be legal.”

    http://www.economist.com/debate/upcoming

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    • 54. Ed Cortes  |  January 3, 2011 at 6:58 am

      ‘scribin’

      Gotta read this one!!

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  • 55. Sagesse  |  January 2, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    Speaking of Christians who are allies… a good read:

    A Conservative Christian Speaks Out – For Gay Rights

    http://wglb-tv.blogspot.com/2011/01/conservative-christian-speaks-out-for.html

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  • 56. Sagesse  |  January 2, 2011 at 3:59 pm

    An international perspective on religious freedom vs civil rights.

    Bishop: Gay Rights Trample Religious Liberties

    http://wglb-tv.blogspot.com/2011/01/bishop-gay-rights-trample-religious.html

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    • 57. Bob  |  January 2, 2011 at 4:53 pm

      those religions that feel their anti-gay stance IS their identity, will change over time, the same way they learned to change their perception of the role of women and slavery,,,, poor folks it’s just their last stand,

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  • 58. Sagesse  |  January 2, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    A comprehensive analysis of what’s coming in New Hampshire. It’s not all bleak. I don’t know how a state like New Hampshire would get it’s (collective) (legislative) head around the 975 married couples whose lives they’re playing with.

    Outside groups gird for gay marriage fight
    New Hampshire will be ‘battleground state’

    http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/231898/outside-groups-gird-for-gay-marriage-fight

    http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/231898/outside-groups-gird-for-gay-marriage-fight

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  • 59. Mandi  |  January 2, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    Merry met, Chris and Richard. And if I ever get back to NC I will deffinately look you up, Richard.

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    • 60. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 2, 2011 at 6:58 pm

      Looking forward to it! I have met so many wonderful people because of this site, and I have learned so much from all of you! The best way I know of to sum up how I feel about all of my P8TT family is this: YOU ROCK!

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  • 61. Ed  |  January 3, 2011 at 6:27 am

    Does anyone know who this “don” character who posts on the NOM blog is?

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    • 62. Rev. Will Fisher  |  January 3, 2011 at 9:33 am

      No, but he’s fairly amusing. Awfully scared of them Soviets…

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    • 63. Bob Barnes  |  January 3, 2011 at 4:34 pm

      He’s an incredible embarrassment for NOM, part of the screw-loose crew.

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  • 64. Sagesse  |  January 3, 2011 at 7:40 am

    Don’t Ask Don’t Tell – VA Stepping Up

    http://lezgetreal.com/2011/01/don%E2%80%99t-ask-don%E2%80%99t-tell-%E2%80%93-va-stepping-up/

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  • 65. Ronnie  |  January 3, 2011 at 8:02 am

    Photographer, Jeff Sheng, talks about the back stories of the subjects in his “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” exhibit & the emotions he portrays in these images of brave men & women who are risking their lives for our country……<3…Ronnie:

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  • 67. Randy  |  January 3, 2011 at 9:07 am

    I’ve always tried to keep the faith that “every dog has his day” and NOM seems intent on fulfilling this prophecy. I hope they will undo themselves. Oh, please, please, please…

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  • 68. Ed  |  January 3, 2011 at 9:39 am

    DOMA is now called DOBSCO (defense of benefits straight couples only).
    Thats all DOMA accomplishes….denial of fed benefits.

    btw, I am aware that DOBSCO is very close to Dobson (James). They both need to just *go away*.

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  • 69. Sheryl Carver  |  January 3, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Apologies if someone else already posted this …

    The Economist Magazine is hosting an online debate between Evan & Maggie on SSM.

    http://www.economist.com/debate/days/view/633

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  • 70. grod  |  January 3, 2011 at 9:57 am

    @Adam
    On August 19, 2010, the U. S. District Court issued a decision and order (National Organization for Marriage vs. McKee (Docket No. 1:09-cv-538-DBH)) invalidating the filing schedule in the Maine’s Ethics Commission’s Rules for independent expenditures that exceed $250 per candidate stating that it was too burdensome.
    There is no reference to NOM in the Commissions minutes since their late August meeting.

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    • 71. Kathlene  |  January 7, 2011 at 3:06 am

      WHAT

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  • 72. Ronnie  |  January 3, 2011 at 10:21 am

    The National Organization for Misinformation/Malevolence/Me,Me,Me/Mockery/Misdeeds/ Mistakes/Monstrous/Menacing/Maliciousness/Morons/Mimics/Money………. & Family Ruination/Restriction Council are seeking to STEAL & TAKE AWAY Rights from the tax paying American Citizens of New Hampshire….they are attacking families…they are attacking children….they are attacking couples…They are THREATENING the personal & private lives of innocent people……They are Fascist’s through & through…… > I …..Ronnie:

    Sunday, January 2, 2011
    Same-sex marriage threatened By JAKE BERRY
    Staff Writer
    http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/904097-196/same-sex-marriage-threatened.html

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  • 73. Chris B  |  January 3, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    I wonder if NOM’s donors know that their money is being used this way: to have judges overturn state campaign finance laws… ironic, isn’t it?

    They say they are trying to save marriage, but what does hiding their donors have to do with saving marriage?

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    • 74. Lesbians Love Boies  |  January 3, 2011 at 5:59 pm

      So true – my best guess is that NOM is money laundering for other groups that cannot get a tax exempt status.

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    • 75. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 3, 2011 at 6:02 pm

      Perhaps by not releasing the donor names they are preserving the marriages of those whose spouses would file for a divorce if they knew about the NOM donations.

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      • 76. Lesbians Love Boies  |  January 3, 2011 at 6:03 pm

        LOL Richard – I needed a good laugh!

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  • 77. truthspew  |  January 3, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    Yeah, no word from the IRS yet? Do recall that Capone wasn’t taken down for all the mayhem he caused, but for tax evasion.

    NOM is going to get their day soon enough.

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