An Open Letter from Dianne Feinstein

January 18, 2011 at 5:26 pm 107 comments

By Adam Bink

Today, Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA) is introducing legislation to paralyze repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” by adding a requirement that four service chiefs sign off on certification. It’s legislation that (a) has no chance of going anywhere (b) is a waste of this nation’s time while there are so many other priorities (c) is simply the wrong thing to do.

Today, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, one of the most senior and respected officials in the state of California, called out Rep. Hunter’s move for what it is: an unfortunate distraction from the real work at hand.

Please see below for an open letter from Sen. Feinstein. Click, sign, and share. It’s already making headlines.

From: Dianne Feinstein, for Courage Campaign <info@couragecampaign.org>
Date: Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 2:37 PM
Subject: An Open Letter from Dianne Feinstein
To: Adam Bink

Courage Campaign
Dianne Feinstein, the senior senator from California, has been an opponent of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” since 1993. Please read an urgent message below from Sen. Feinstein on this new threat to full repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”, and why we’re coming together to focus on real priorities.

Rick Jacobs
Chair, Courage Campaign

Dear Friend:

Last month, I proudly cast my vote to repeal the discriminatory “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy, which I have opposed since it was first introduced in 1993. President Obama signed that bill into law, and it’s now on the path to implementation.

So imagine my disappointment today when I learned California Congressman Duncan Hunter is introducing legislation that would paralyze repeal efforts.

Rep. Hunter knows his legislation has no chance of success. Should it pass the House, it will never be approved by the Senate or signed by the President.

Worse, this effort is a distraction from the real work at hand. California is faced with an unemployment rate of 12.4%, a crushing budget shortfall, alarming health insurance rate hikes, crumbling infrastructure and a broken immigration system. Now is not the time for distractions that have no chance of becoming law.

Will you join me and the Courage Campaign in asking your member of Congress to reject this legislation, and instead focus on real priorities for Californians and the rest of America?

I was proud to co-sponsor of the bill that repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” last month. As President Obama said upon signing repeal, “This is done.”

He’s right. This issue is settled. It’s time to move on to address what California needs, not look backwards to derail equality.

We need to get our economy moving here in California. As your Senator, I’ve always made that my top priority. Immigration reform, building smart infrastructure like high-speed rail that creates good-paying jobs, and helping small businesses succeed are also at the top of my list.

I think those are priorities that we can all agree upon.

Let’s ask the rest of my colleagues from both parties to come together on this. Join me and the Courage Campaign in calling upon your member of Congress to reject this divisive distraction, and focus on getting California and the rest of our nation moving again.

The stakes couldn’t be higher — and we don’t have time to waste.

Yours,

Dianne Feinstein

The Courage Campaign is a multi-issue online organizing network that empowers more than 700,000 grassroots and netroots supporters to push for progressive change and full equality in California and across the country.

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107 Comments Add your own

  • 1. Ann S.  |  January 18, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Hooray for DiFi!

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  • 2. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 18, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    Will read in more detail later.

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  • 3. Kathleen  |  January 18, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    And this just in from the court case:

    UPDATE: DADT case (LCR v USA)

    ORDER from 9th Circuit – Temporary Stay on briefing
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/47142056

    Before this stay, the government’s opening brief in the appeal would have been due next Monday, Jan 24. This order puts a hold on the schedule until the Court decides the question of whether to put a long-term hold on the appeal, per the government’s request.

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    • 4. Peterplumber  |  January 19, 2011 at 5:44 am

      If they are putting a temporary hold on briefing, that seems to me like they are considering dropping the whole case, per the governments request.

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      • 5. Kathleen  |  January 19, 2011 at 7:20 am

        Yes. They’re considering it. It may just be that the motions panel work load is such that they really do need more time to even consider the matter, but obviously they’re not just denying the government’s motion at this point.

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    • 6. Lesbians Love Boies  |  January 19, 2011 at 6:45 am

      IMO, because of people like Rep. Duncan Hunter, they shouldn’t put a hold on the case.

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      • 7. Manilow  |  January 19, 2011 at 10:14 am

        couldn’t agree more with you, LLB! I wish we could somehow tell the court that exact thing.

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    • 8. Up&Adam  |  January 19, 2011 at 9:09 am

      Hi Kathleen. Do forgive me, totally off topic here, but was hoping you wouldn’t mind if I ask a legal question of you and my second apology if it’s been discussed here before. Purely hypothetical question concerning “pro hac vice,” lets say that the CA Supreme Court decides to answer the cert question & schedules briefings & oral arguments and David Boies is chosen to argue. Though Ted Olsen is a member of the CA bar & David Boies is not, he then has to petition the court “pro hac vice,” in order to practice in the state court (since Perry is in Federal Court that rule does not apply).
      My concern is yet another delay in the proceedings what with Boies having to petition the court in order to practice in California. How long does that “motion pending” take? Can David Boies petition the court before the CA Supreme Court decides to take the case? And has he already done so? Thanks for your input & hopefully you can make sense of my question.

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      • 9. Kathleen  |  January 19, 2011 at 9:20 am

        I really doubt this will cause a delay. I don’t know the answer to your question about how much time it could take, but I’m guessing this is a fairly routine matter. Also, I can’t see why the Court wouldn’t promptly approve such a request, particularly since what we’re talking about here is simply doing oral arguments in front of an appeals court, not something like representing a client in a criminal case under California law.

        Perhaps an attorney with some experience with this process can give a more definitive answer.

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  • 10. Rhie  |  January 18, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    Watch

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  • 11. Sagesse  |  January 18, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    Perfect. A senior, well respected legislator, also from California, calls Hunter out on his childish tantrum. Almost what government should be.

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  • 12. Ronnie  |  January 18, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    (sighs) another RATpublican who doesn’t deserve the freedoms our soldiers are fighting for because he disrespects the LGBT soldiers who are risking their lives for him, this country & the rest of us….Rep. Duncan Hunter you are an ingrate…..so pathetic…..

    Thank you Senator Feinstein, for being a true Patriot, a true American, a decent human being, for showing that you deserve the freedoms our soldiers fight for, & that you respect & honor the sacrifices our LGBT soldiers are making for ALL of us…………<3…Ronnie

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    • 13. Sheryl, Mormon Mother of a wonderful son who just happens to be gay  |  January 19, 2011 at 1:36 pm

      Ronnie, what a terrific way to present the situation. You are so right.

      sheryl, Mormon Mother

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  • 14. JonT  |  January 18, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    Oh boy. Just another play for the adoration of religious conservatives.

    If all of the service chiefs had come out in support of repealing DADT, I’m sure he’d then propose a unanimous vote by all service members on repeal.

    And if that didn’t work, well then he’d make up some other time wasting, useless bone to throw to the right wing.

    Get to work on real problems Mr. Hunter. You know, the hard ones that actually need fixing. Keep your bigotry to yourself.

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  • 15. Ray in MA  |  January 18, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Mark, Kathleen, Kate & Others…I looked back and found what you were refering to. I only happened to catch the anonymity slant because way before July, I started ignorig ‘her’ (for other reasons), …so I missed the other sequence of events… which was very disturbing.

    Goes to show you that our bits and pieces of comments here are very scattered in this form of communication. Takes a lot of effort to follow all the details! I need to be more careful before opening my big mouth… expecially when I had no recollection of who was involved… I typically learn the hard way.

    I’m very sorry I stirred the ashes…expecially on what should have been a happier posting.

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    • 16. Kate  |  January 19, 2011 at 6:44 am

      Ray, I am very impressed with your gracious post. Thank you.

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    • 17. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  January 19, 2011 at 7:17 am

      “It’s all good” Ray : D I’m glad we have a place to speak our mind and I hope, as JonT mentioned, if I get out of line ya’ll with “call me on my shit”. As far as “happier posting”…I found the discussion appropriate on the anniversary post as we are a group that doesn’t shy away from controversy! In my “real life” sometimes extended family invites us over with the stipulation that we won’t talk about any controversial topics so “they” can have a peaceful time….we simply choose to not attend on those occasions.

      Love and Hugs from SLC!

      ps. “Hi Kate!” Love and Hugs 2 you too! Every time I see you post I remind myself to make time to enjoy your glorious photo books…tonight I’m determined to set aside some time to revisit them! Would you mind email me the Yellowstone one(again?) tx!

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      • 18. Kate  |  January 19, 2011 at 7:20 am

        Gregory — thanks for wanting to see the Yellowstone book! You can click on my name, and it will take you to both that one and the Tanzania book. Enjoy!

        Love, Kate

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        • 19. Gregory in Salt Lake City  |  January 19, 2011 at 7:40 am

          Yay! : D

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        • 21. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 19, 2011 at 11:17 am

          And Kate, I am also glad you shared your pictures from Yellowstone and Tanzania. Love going in to look at the pictures when I need to relax and help myself shift gears. The beauty of the pictures is so calming!

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          • 22. Kate  |  January 19, 2011 at 4:55 pm

            Aw, shucks, thank you Richard and Gregory. Very kind of you. Gregory, I loved seeing your pix — and photo of you!

    • 23. Kathleen  |  January 19, 2011 at 7:28 am

      Thanks, Ray. If you hadn’t seen all the history, how could you know? Thanks for understanding.

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      • 24. Chris in Lathrop  |  January 19, 2011 at 3:28 pm

        Kathleen, I know you wish for this thread to die as much as I do, but I found your note to Sheryl Carver just now. Thank you for the acknowledgment, and I’m glad there’s no bad blood between us. :) I hope my occasional bouts of social ineptness never cause any real trouble around here. HUGS!

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        • 25. Kathleen  |  January 19, 2011 at 3:33 pm

          Hugs back. xoxo

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        • 26. Kate  |  January 19, 2011 at 4:57 pm

          Chris, the posts that you are Sheryl left mean a lot to me. I have a lot of admiration for you two and for Ray — being able to step up and post a “whoops” is proof of marvelous character, all around.

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          • 27. Chris in Lathrop  |  January 20, 2011 at 4:48 am

            Thank you, Kate! I admire you and Kathleen both. It takes courage to pay attention enough to catch the subtleties and call someone out on their bull. I think nobody should ever be afraid to say, “oops, my bad.” The world would be so much better a place if people would. People are too busy trying to be perfect, and I think everyone should read this blog post: http://www.danoah.com/2010/09/disease-called-perfection.html

          • 28. Sheryl Carver  |  January 20, 2011 at 5:50 pm

            One of the reasons I continue to read P8TT is because most folks do their best to be civil, even when passionate or angry or whatever. Apologizing when one makes a mistake or causes a problem, even unintentionally, is just good manners. I agree with Chris, a few more “oops – sorry” instead of verbal “1-finger salutes” would make the world a much nicer, healthier place.

            I am always impressed by people who can find that middle path when someone else says or does something really inappropriate. I’ve tended to either just try to ignore it, or I get angry & respond in a way that makes a bad situation worse. For me, the silver lining in this was going back to the original post & seeing how Kathleen, Kate, Mark, & JonT responded.

            I know many others here have also written amazingly articulate, effective comments on a variety of topics, & even in response to trolls. I’ve learned a lot here, & happily expect that to continue. Thanks, everyone!

          • 29. JonT  |  January 20, 2011 at 7:59 pm

            Thanks, all of you.

            I too, have made my blunders from time to time.

            I remember once making a pretty disrespectful post concerning Christianity. Even before I logged in the next day, I realized this and regretted it. Joel pointed it out to me and I immediately apologized — because he was right.

            It’s one thing to disagree — quite another to attack someone personally.

            I have learned a lot from this community, and hope to continue doing so.

            Peace and love to all of you.

          • 30. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 21, 2011 at 10:34 am

            To all my P8TT family. What is expressed above in this thread expresses many of the reasons I keep coming back. And yes, all of you have shown me, through leading by example, how to gain strength by being grown-up enough to admit my mistakes and own up to them. So here is a great big P8TT Family Hug for all of you! Please continue to be safe, be good to yourselves and those you love, and thanks so much for being here when I need you–whether it is to share things we are going through here that hurt, or to share those things that happen to us that are celebrations. It means so much to have all of you here.

    • 31. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  January 19, 2011 at 8:45 am

      Warmest hugs and thanks Ray :-)
      No harm no foul my friend

      Mark M

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  • 32. Peterplumber  |  January 18, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Damn that Duncan. We just had a nice talk last week. His office is not far from where I live. Of course, we weren’t talking about DADT, but rather the raising of the national debt ceiling.
    I guess I should have another chat with that man.

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  • 33. Ed  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:24 am

    OT…..but still….entertaining…..

    Concerned Women for America talks about the prop 8 case..

    http://www.cwfa.org/content.asp?id=19728

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    • 34. JonT  |  January 19, 2011 at 3:18 am

      You’re right. That was funny. These people really do live in another world.

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      • 35. Tigger  |  January 19, 2011 at 4:57 am

        That Mario Diaz is a piece of work. And just by reading the names of those women you can tell that the quickest way to get a diamond is to shove it up their….

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  • 36. Tasty Salamanders  |  January 19, 2011 at 7:33 am

    Please tell me this is a hoax or something: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/gop-senator-calls-federal-laws-child-labor-unconstitutional/

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    • 37. Steve  |  January 19, 2011 at 10:56 am

      Poe’s Law at work again. There is no claim made by fundies that someone won’t mistake for a parody.

      Conversely, you can’t create a parody of a fundie that someone won’t mistake for the real thing.

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  • 38. Jim  |  January 19, 2011 at 7:53 am

    Not sure where to pose this question since it is on a different subject but does any know whether Pres. Obama can issue an Executive Order and put ENDA into effect, since, at this point, it will be many a year before this congress even takes it up again.

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  • 39. Jim  |  January 19, 2011 at 7:55 am

    Does anyone know if President Obama can issue an Executive Order and put into effect ENDA, since, with this Congress is will almost definitely not be brought up again?

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  • 40. Jim  |  January 19, 2011 at 7:55 am

    #22 & #23 sorry for the double posting

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  • 41. Rich  |  January 19, 2011 at 8:06 am

    Is anyone doing a follow-up to the most recent SCOTUS position re: DC gay marriage rights? Seems to me there are some potentially wonderful ramifications for their stand to not intervene in DC’s law.

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    • 42. Ed  |  January 19, 2011 at 8:14 am

      Not just that, but over at NOM’s blog, there has been NO mention of it……interesting…..

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      • 43. anonygrl  |  January 19, 2011 at 9:16 am

        It is a fairly firm nail in their coffin, I can see why NOM would not want to discuss it. Because really, they have NO other recourse in that particular case EXCEPT a Constitutional Amendment, which they are probably not in any position to actually push right now.

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      • 44. Ed Cortes  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:50 pm

        In this case, they can’t even bmw about “activist judges”, since the court refused to even hear the case!

        ka-check!

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        • 45. Ed Cortes  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:55 pm

          checkin’ this time!

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    • 46. Kathleen  |  January 19, 2011 at 8:20 am

      Rich, other than D.C. marriages no longer being threatened by the possibility of being put up to a popular vote, what other ramifications do you see?

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  • 47. fiona64  |  January 19, 2011 at 8:27 am

    This is obviously his attempt to stall it, since the neanderthal USMC Commandant would not sign off.

    Too bad, so sad … because, as was already pointed out, this is a big, fat waste of time.

    Love,
    Fiona

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  • 48. Peterplumber  |  January 19, 2011 at 8:54 am

    This is off topic, but the new Alabama governor is making his religious views public.

    New governor: Non-Christians ‘not my brother,’ ‘not my sister’
    Anti-Defamation League says remarks ‘raise serious questions as to whether non-Christians can expect to receive equal treatment’

    Read the whole story here:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41149562/ns/politics-more_politics/

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    • 49. fiona64  |  January 19, 2011 at 8:55 am

      Wow. I guess someone missed Rabbi Yeshua ben Yussef’s very clear lesson about the Good Samaritan during his scriptural cherry-picking …

      Love,
      Fiona

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    • 50. Chris in Lathrop  |  January 19, 2011 at 3:34 pm

      “Bentley apologized on Wednesday, however, saying no one should hate anyone else because of color or religion.”

      Sooooo, other protected statuses like, say, sexual orientation are fair game for hatred? :Þ

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      • 51. JonT  |  January 19, 2011 at 4:10 pm

        Yeah, that’s what I got out of that statement too.

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  • 52. Ronnie  |  January 19, 2011 at 9:28 am

    Why a Formerly Homophobic Utah Resident Is Starting the “Pride Empathy Line”
    by Brandon Miller January 17, 2011
    http://gayrights.change.org/blog/view/why_a_formerly_homophobic_utah_resident_is_starting_the_pride_empathy_line

    “I have two sisters who are gay and I’m from a religion that — what’s the best way to describe this? — is not very pro-gay……One of my sisters had a partner and for about 10 years, I was discriminative to her partner because I didn’t believe in their lifestyle. My husband and I decided to take an LGBT class at the community college and it kind of changed our lives. We realized the way we’d been treating this community was wrong, and I thought, ‘What can I do to pay it forward?’……..Regardless of your past or religion, we can all need more empathy and that’s what this line is about,” ~ Melanie Squire

    The “Pride Empathy Line” will launch on February 1st

    (me) very good for Melanie Squires & her husband…I hope this begins mending bridges that may have been harmed between her & her sister….<3…Ronnie

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    • 53. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  January 19, 2011 at 9:49 am

      Thanks for posting that Ronnie….it’s always wonderful to hear about the good people doing good works.
      And I love that she’s opening the Line on my birthday :-)

      Mark

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  • 54. anonygrl  |  January 19, 2011 at 9:56 am

    You can send email to Duncan Hunter at:

    https://forms.house.gov/hunter/webforms/zipauthen_contact.shtml

    but you have to use a CA zip code. I put in 92020 and got the email form, then it didn’t matter what I put in the address and city line.

    My basic message was “Shame on you for wasting time and money on legislation that will not pass the Senate or President, and is only for the ‘glory’ of YOU. The repeal of DADT will bring some much needed equality to this country. Do the right thing and stop your insanity.”

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  • 55. Ed  |  January 19, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Ah yes….here we go. BB is committed to restoring marriage in DC. Restored? what happen to it exactly…..

    http://nomblog.com/3858/

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    • 56. Sagesse  |  January 19, 2011 at 11:29 am

      Can NOM explain why the voters who so desperately want to vote out marriage equality re-elected the councilmembers that gave them marriage equality in the the first place… by a comfortable margin?

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    • 57. Ann S.  |  January 19, 2011 at 11:33 am

      I’ve got news for BB — that ship has sailed, and he missed the boat.

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      • 58. Lesbians Love Boies  |  January 19, 2011 at 11:36 am

        and, not only because he was on the bus!

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    • 59. Ronnie  |  January 19, 2011 at 11:52 am

      Aweee…poor cryBB…FAIL!!!!!….In the District of Columbia there is no “right to vote” on Human & Civil Rights…you are not above the law Brian…get an education, get a life, & get over yourself……you lost….DEAL WITH IT CRYBB!!!!!…..
      ; ) …Ronnie

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      • 60. book in tracy  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:37 pm

        @Ronnie, Maybe you could get Melanie (above) to send the LGBT class to Brian and Maggie, and friends!! It might do a world of good!

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  • 61. Kathleen  |  January 19, 2011 at 11:41 am

    UPDATE – Mass DOMA cases

    FRC Amicus Brief
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/47201642

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    • 62. Straight Dave  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:19 pm

      NOM has also submitted an amicus brief, located with all the others at http://www.glad.org/doma/documents

      I’m not really in the mood to read that crap right now, but will get to it eventually

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      • 63. Kathleen  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:27 pm

        Posted the NOM one previously. Their brief focused more on the question of whether the federal govt has the authority to regulate marriage, though they gave the obligatory nod to the procreatin’ argument toward the end.

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      • 64. Straight Dave  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:48 pm

        Thanks Kathleen. I missed it earlier. In any case, the links on Glad’s page are broken right now so everyone is better off going with scribd.

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  • 65. Lesbians Love Boies  |  January 19, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Page 33 of pdf (page 26 of document)

    Extending the federal benefits of marriage to same-sex couples would not “encourage heterosexual couples to bear and raise children in committed marriage relationships.”

    Federal benefits are not just granted to married couples that have children.

    And, by that same statement, it might encourage homosexual couples to bear and raise children in committed marriage relationships.

    This procreation argument is losing its wheels.

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    • 66. Ed  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:03 pm

      This whole argument reminds me of Wiley E Coyote and his little umbrella when there is a (shit) ton of bricks about to fall on his head….LOL

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      • 67. Lesbians Love Boies  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:20 pm

        Funny.

        They have NEVER shown how marriage equality harms marriage. NEVER – their argument seems to be “because we said so.” Very much like the Prop 8 trial – they don’t need any evidence.

        They also try to use the argument because it’s always ‘been’ so – nope – marriage has changed throughout history (for the better.) And it continues to evolve.

        Their argument not about marriage – it’s about accepting homosexuality – if our state and federal government accepts it then the anti-gay haters won’t be able to further their agenda by bringing in legislation to make homosexuality a crime.

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        • 68. Manilow  |  January 19, 2011 at 5:21 pm

          Speaking of the federal government accepting homosexuality – was there ever any movement from Sen. Gillibrand adding sexual orientation to the Civil Rights Act of 1964? Did the hunger strike do anything?

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    • 69. Ronnie  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:16 pm

      Excuse me FRC, but it is NOT the word “marriage”‘s or the benefits (provided by the government) responsibly to encourage heterosexual couples to bear & raise children in committed relationships….It is the people raising children, whose responsibility it is to encourage ALL couples to have children (who ever that couple may be …LGBT & Straight…as well as how ever that couple chooses to obtain that goal)….but in the end it the choice of the two individuals involved in that relationship..NOT yours, FRC….The desire to produce children is not a legal requirement for marriage…the desire to adopt children is not a legal requirement for marriage…because those are options that the couple makes on their own without permission from control freaks like the Family Restriction Council…..

      Agreed, LLB….but this procreation (do a shot) speil is not only losing its wheels, but its axel is rusting away….<3…Ronnie

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      • 70. Ronnie  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:31 pm

        Furthermore….like it has already been said, but deserves repeating…Couples, both LGBT & Straight have the right to choose to never have children either through natural means, surrogacy/in-vitro, or adoption/foster care as well those who cannot reproduce & should not be repeatedly insulted, bombarded with disrespect of their choices as a couple or the lack of natural means to produce a child, & have their marriages deemed inferior because some selfish organization like the Family Restriction Council has a Superiority complex…..

        Basically, what I am trying to say is….FRC, MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!…ok I’m good now…did I miss anything?…….<3…Ronnie

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    • 71. Sagesse  |  January 19, 2011 at 6:49 pm

      Extending the federal benefits of marriage to same-sex couples would not “encourage heterosexual couples to bear and raise children in committed marriage relationships.”

      Ummmm…. well, it wouldn’t “discourage” heterosexual couples to bear and raise children in a committed marriage relationships” either. Now would it?

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  • 72. Ed  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Kind of OT, but as we all know, NOM censures its blog, and I have been kicked off numerous times. Well, all ya gotta do it change your email a bit, and it has a better chance of getting thru. So this time, my email is “nomhatesme@nom.com”. Kinda fun to make up new emails.

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    • 73. Mark M. (Seattle)  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:32 pm

      LOL
      Love your choice this time around :-)

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  • 74. rocketeer500  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    It’s almost embarrassing to admit that Hunter represents the district I live in (52nd District).

    Not to excuse what he’s doing, but our district is one of the last districts leaving suburbia in San Diego. While I don’t doubt he is pandering to the GOP, most of his supporters in this district do support his efforts–sickening, but true–and it’s the majority!

    I sent him an email today; rather scathing, even by my standards (I’m no angel–he, he). It just makes me sick to think that, after all that’s been said and done, and after all the smoke and debris finally settled from DADT, he’d so something this stupid.

    Just my 2 cents.

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    • 75. rocketeer500  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:35 pm

      sorry, I meant “do”, not “so” in the last sentence.

      See, I’m so pissed and can’t type clearly! :)

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    • 76. Peterplumber  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:39 pm

      ooOOoo
      You live here too?? I thought I was the only gay guy in El Cajon.

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      • 77. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:53 pm

        I spent a lovely Thanksgiving day in El Cajon when I was in the Navy. Lovely family I was with that day. And until I began hearing from folks who are currently in the area, I thought they were the norm there, because they had no problem at all with me being gay.

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        • 78. rocketeer500  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:57 pm

          Richard, I’m glad your experience in El Cajon was nice. Honestly, I love my city, but anything past the I-15 is a hit or miss when it comes to acceptance. Some people are shining bright lights of support and acceptance… however a lot are not. It’s changing, for sure, but painfully slowly.

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          • 79. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 19, 2011 at 1:12 pm

            This family lived near what I guess would be the retail district. And I think part of the reason they were so accepting is the fact that both of the parents had LGBT family members. And they really made me feel at home there.

          • 80. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 19, 2011 at 1:13 pm

            But I do know what you mean about other sections of the town, the county and the district itself. It is still like that in the state where I grew up.

      • 81. rocketeer500  |  January 19, 2011 at 12:53 pm

        WHAT?? El Cajon… oh pahlezze… I live in Rancho San Diego…. LOL

        Seriously though, it’s frustrating to know that your district rep. couldn’t care less about his constituents and care more for his party affliation. It just sickens me.

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        • 82. Peterplumber  |  January 19, 2011 at 1:28 pm

          Well, if it helps, I am in unincorporated El Cajon.

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  • 83. Bennett  |  January 19, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Thanks Diane.

    Very nice the you turned the tables on the Republicans who are always claiming “higher priorities” than anything to do with equality. NOM should see the irony in this as well. They constantly deride legislatures who take up marriage equality for this same reason–higher priorities (which they really care not a thing about). Idiots.

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  • 84. Ronnie  |  January 20, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    DADT Cost Almost $200 Million In Five Years: GAO Report
    First Posted: 01/20/11
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/20/dont-ask-dont-tell-gao-cost-2004-2009_n_811741.html

    Interesting how the Republicans want to keep talking about saving the economy & what not….& yet there are a number of them trying to reinstate DADT &/or postpone/stall the implementation of the repeal of DADT & the integration of open service….Enforcing DADT between 2004 & 2009 cost our country almost $200 million….how exactly is that helping the economy?….Oh that’s right…it is NOT!!!!….spending $200mill on the firing/discharging of soldiers who risked their lives for this country & did nothing wrong other then be LGBT…while we a huge homelessness problem, poverty problem, unemployment problem, healthcare/insurance problems, thousands of children living without any parents who age out of system & often become homeless themselves at the age of 18yo…..yeah those Republicans who want to reinstate DADT or postpone the implementation of the repeal really do have their priorities straight…NOT!!!!… : / …Ronnie

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  • 85. big dog  |  January 24, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    Its a disgrace that politicians have involved themselves with trying to legislate morality– you have no control– all you have done is signed death warrents for the thousands of homosexual who will believe that this lifestyle is legit–homosexuals are created by pedifies–black civil rights have been raped by the homosexual community–shame on the naacp and other black organnizations who have failed to respond to the rape of the black cause–shame–shame–shame

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    • 86. Ronnie  |  January 24, 2011 at 11:04 pm

      Obvious Homophobic un-American Fascist troll is obvious… 8 / …..Ronnie

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    • 87. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 25, 2011 at 12:07 am

      First off, you really need to invest in a quality dictionary.
      Second off, you really need to learn to think for yourself. The ones who are wanting to legislate morality are NOM and other groups of their ilk, including many organizations which are now legitimately listed as hate groups.
      Third off, you really need to begin asking your parents before you get on the computer this late on a school night.

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      • 88. Rhie  |  January 25, 2011 at 12:12 am

        Their parents might also want to tell them that implied death threats against a minority, even online, can get them in serious, serious trouble.

        Also, we must be doing something good here because all the trolls keep showing up to try to shout us down. Shrill hysteria is the last resort of those who know they are losing.

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  • 89. big dog  |  January 24, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    how will marriage be defined– 2men 3 women, 3 women 1 man (yahoo) 1 dog and one women, three 15 year old women and 1 man, one man and one boy, add you suggestions so the polititians can start creating the new marriage laws–p.s. Want to thanks the mormons for their efforts– and target the naacp for allowing the use of a black civil rights organ. to cause the death of millions of homosexuals in the future ( oh yea– aids is stll here buddy it’s just that the media keeps these deaths hidden from public view–you guys really think everyone is stupid–

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    • 90. Ronnie  |  January 24, 2011 at 11:08 pm

      Death threats from an obvious homophobic un-American Fascist troll that is obviously obvious….. 8 / …..Ronnie

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  • 91. big dog  |  January 28, 2011 at 12:31 am

    hey check out elton john–pedifile in the making

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    • 92. bJason  |  January 28, 2011 at 3:48 am

      go to bed, kid. Tomorrow is a school day.

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    • 93. Richard A. Jernigan  |  January 28, 2011 at 5:50 am

      Do your parents know that you are slandering and libeling people online, as well as harassing adults? Do your parents know that you are committing illegal activities that can get you federal jail time for a long time? If not, then maybe they need better parental controls on your computers at home. And you really need to invest in a good dictionary. And while you’re at it, do your homework. You really need to work on your spelling, your grammar, and the rest of your schoolwork so you don’t end up on welfare, wearing a shirt with your name embroidered over the pocket so that you can remember who you are and where you work!

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    • 94. anonygrl  |  January 28, 2011 at 6:26 am

      Pedifile?

      Is that an emory board for use on toes?

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      • 95. Rhie  |  January 28, 2011 at 12:53 pm

        I’ve got one of those in the bathroom closet!

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        • 96. Lesbians Love Boies  |  January 28, 2011 at 12:55 pm

          I’m jealous that you have a bathroom closet!

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          • 97. Rhie  |  January 28, 2011 at 1:36 pm

            Heh well I have to share it with the cat and three other people. :)

            I live in a weenie little over the garage loft apartment. Fortunately the designer used the space wisely. And I’m not really complaining – I’m lucky to HAVE a place in this economy!

    • 98. Ronnie  |  January 28, 2011 at 9:47 am

      Hey, check out big do…no…. big bitch-bigot in the making….. XP …..Ronnie

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  • 99. big dog  |  February 1, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    islam take care of my light work–sweet ronnie,boo boo rhie,stinky anonygrl, cutie pie richard a. j(leave him his dad handling that)–you think the islam form of government will tolerate your immorality–just keep hugging and kissing until the suprise

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    • 100. Ronnie  |  February 1, 2011 at 9:34 pm

      No “immorality” going on around here…. 8 / ….Ronnie

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    • 101. Richard A. Jernigan  |  February 1, 2011 at 10:12 pm

      The only one being immoral here is YOU. Especially with the way you are perverting the true purpose of Islam. You claim to be Islamic, but I know too many TRUE Islamics, and after I show them your posts on here, they will be looking for you so that they can tell you to your face just how abhorrent you are and to make sure you are brought before the proper councils to be removed from Islam.

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  • 102. big dog  |  February 5, 2011 at 8:16 am

    bigdog didn’t claim nothing–bigdog-born and bred in The USA-nam era-vet–the dog tired of saving the world with my country at risk–islam does’t support homo life style–and since our leaders are allowing them to infiltrate our system your homo buddies and love kissy folks(hollywood esp) will feel their government system of law as they take over–world domination and you, american friend, will help them p.s. my 1st cousin died of aids by 21– no more conversation with you richard–ever serve–coward–islam–not a religion but a form of government–America allows freedom of religion–but not freedom of other forms of government-look closer at it’s structure and theology–stop leaders from social experimentation and destroying our military-take care of our true allies and forget the rest–America cannot save the world–we are dying here–stupid

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    • 103. Ronnie  |  February 5, 2011 at 8:26 am

      bigbitch is a benighted troglodyte who doesn’t know what a “lifestyle” is…there is no such thing as a “homo life style”….Islam is a religion not a form of government you unlettered schlock…you are doing a whole lot of threatening there bigbitch….cowardly TROLL….. 8 / ….Ronnie

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    • 104. Richard A. Jernigan  |  February 5, 2011 at 8:34 am

      What’s the matter, bigdog? Did I strike a nerve and hit you in your illogic? And yes, I did serve. My first husband also served. Vietnam, 5 tours in country with USMC Special Forces. I still miss him. He was only 40 when he died in a plane crash. My present husband served in Vietnam, incountry, with the USAF. And to be honest, I don’t think you are old enough to have served in Afghanistan, much less in Vietnam. Your spelling, grammar, and other errors are those of a preschooler. Things that are cute when you are three years old, but only demonstrate your total lack of education if you are claiming to be an adult. You really need to go back to school, learn how to spell, and take a critical thinking course so that you can learn how to think on your own instead of blindly following the lies that NOM, AFA, FRC, Focus on the Family and all the others of their ilk, including that loon Fred Phelps, dole out. Become a man and stop being a blind sheep!

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    • 105. JonT  |  February 5, 2011 at 5:02 pm

      Dude. Put down the crack pipe and take a remedial reading/writing class.

      What is it with these types of trolls? It’s like they dropped out of school in the 3rd grade of something.

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  • 106. big dog  |  March 19, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    Hiv cures on the web– Curehiv.com

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    • 107. Ronnie  |  March 19, 2011 at 1:58 pm

      obvious troll is obvious…. 8 / ….Ronnie

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