Close to a win in Hawaii

February 12, 2011 at 7:12 am 49 comments

By Adam Bink

As some had noted in the comments last night, yesterday the Hawaii House passed legislation extending civil unions to same-sex couples, 31-19. The Senate had already passed a similar version of the legislation. A vote is expected on Tuesday to resolve the differences, at which point it will go to Gov. Abercrombie for signature.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Photo credit: On Top Magazine

I wrote previously about the expedited path to success, following Gov. Lingle’s veto, would be to elect Rep. Abercrombie as governor rather than a boycott or other actions. We’re now close to a win because of that success, following on the heels of similar legislation being signed into law in Illinois.

Progress, friends! Have a good weekend.

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  • 1. Sagesse  |  February 12, 2011 at 7:21 am

    And it’s only February.

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    • 2. Ronnie  |  February 12, 2011 at 8:32 am

      February = <3

      ; ) …Ronnie

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      • 3. Sagesse  |  February 12, 2011 at 8:49 am

        Well, at least is spelled it correctly… even in my morning coffee-deprived state :). Actually, I can spell, I just can’t type.

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        • 4. Sheryl Carver  |  February 12, 2011 at 8:56 am

          I understand too well the relationship between typing & caffeine levels, Sagesse.

          Perhaps the UK keyboard which delivers tea could be modified to deliver coffee. :-)

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          • 5. Sagesse  |  February 12, 2011 at 9:04 am

            A noble idea, to be sure. Only the Brits would care enough to enable their technology in such a civilized way.

          • 6. Kathleen  |  February 12, 2011 at 9:38 am

          • 7. JonT  |  February 12, 2011 at 5:20 pm

            And, Yay!

  • 8. Tomato  |  February 12, 2011 at 7:58 am

    So much in the works.

    Can someone please post a simple summary (for simple me) of:
    *how many (and which) states have now and are about to have civil unions
    *how many (and which) states have now and are about to have equal marriage
    *which states are under threat for existing civil union legislation
    *which states are under threat for existing equal marriage legislation

    Thank you in advance!

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    • 9. Shannon  |  February 12, 2011 at 8:11 am

      May not be completely up to date, but it seems pretty good:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_status_in_the_United_States_by_state

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    • 10. karen in kalifornia  |  February 12, 2011 at 9:27 am

      Tomato, this is my tally:
      *Marriage hearings in Maryland and Rhode Island are happening…..Maryland likely, I call RI doubtful…too many religion mombo jumbo objections.

      * Iowa under Republican threat to existing marriage equality. Thank goddess for Sen Gronstal who won’t let it happen.

      *New Hampshire is also under active threat to rescind marriage equality.

      *Wyoming just passed resolution for anti gay marriage amendment. Indiana both houses just passed a resolution for anitgay marriage amendment, In both states it’s all but a done deal.

      * West Virginia and North Carolina are both vulnerable for an anit gay marriage amendment as their legislatures are now controlled by Repugs.

      *New Mexico continues to be in play one way or another as the state does not have an anti gay marriage amendment.

      *Delaware is slowly climbing the mountain towards equality. No specific action happening.

      I’m sure to have forgotten someplace. Feel free to add or amend.

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      • 11. AnonyGrl  |  February 12, 2011 at 12:51 pm

        New York, where the legislation is going to be reintroduced this year, but unknown whether we can round up the six more votes we need to get it passed in the Senate. But our Gov. is strongly in favor of it passing.

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      • 12. karen in kalifornia  |  February 12, 2011 at 3:01 pm

        Right. How could I forget New York?

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      • 13. karen in kalifornia  |  February 12, 2011 at 3:05 pm

        Oh yeah, and remember the ink isn’t even dry on the Illinois Civil Union Bill. Doesn’t start until this summer though.

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  • 14. Sheryl Carver  |  February 12, 2011 at 8:05 am

    This is definitely progress, especially sweet because of the previous veto by self-righteous “I Know Best” Lingle.

    And yet, because of the way most states’ civil unions work, this still means that while we can now sit in the middle of the bus, we still don’t get seats in the front. And (I think) if we get on the bus & sit in the middle in one state, we still have to move to the back of the bus if we cross state lines. With civil unions, there doesn’t even have to be a Federal law similar to DOMA to allow states to refuse to recognize a union performed in another state.

    Don’t mean to be a downer, but I’m angry that equality-minded Hawaiian citizens had to work so hard to get partial equal rights.

    Hmmm, perhaps I shouldn’t post until I’ve had at least 2 cups of tea. I want the keyboard phillykarl mentioned yesterday:

    “I believe on UK keyboards that hitting CTRL-SHIFT-F9 will bring tea.”

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    • 15. Carpool Cookie  |  February 12, 2011 at 11:05 am

      I’m not really qualified to playdown domestic partnerships, as I’m not in a relationship, and maybe only the couple in them can truly decide what works…but I was struck by how this one younger poster at imdb was pushing for them (“All the same rights as marriage,” etc.), thinking arch conservatives would feel less threatened if same sex marriage was given a different name.

      I had to point out things I’d learned here; that as long as domestic partnerships are a separate institution, they’re vulnerable to being attacked and targeted for takedown. Once everything is just (rightly) called “marriage,” they can’t divide and conquer so easily.

      Plus, this person was somehow concerned that a foreign power that hated LGTGs even more would take over the U.S., and marriage lists would be searched for same sex couples to be imprisoned (or something). I had to point out that marriage registrations are kept confidential, whereas domestic partnerships are part of the public record.

      One good thing that did happen in NY was that in the 90’s, domestic partnerships partially came about because it’s impossible to be added to an pre-existing apartment lease unless you’re a spouse. And apartment leases are like GOLD in that city; when turning off all the utilities doesn’t flush long-term tenants out, landlords just wait with baited breath for tennants to die! So at least if your partner died or moved out, if you were a registered domestic partner you knew you wouldn’t be put out in the freezing street.

      So, Yes, domestic partnerships can have some benefits, but they also piss me off. Just on simple principal, it makes everything so much more complicated than it has to be. Remember, the acronym “KISS” often applies to making life flow – Keep It Simple, Stupid.

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      • 16. Peterplumber  |  February 12, 2011 at 9:07 pm

        I entered into a domestic partnership in Washington state. At the time, the law was new, and there were very few rights attached to it. But the following year more rights were added as well as a few responsibilities. For instance, it there was joint property in the partnership, ending the partnership was no longer as simple as submitting paperwork to the state, it meant going to divorce court, same as “married” couples.
        The NEXT year, the state passed what was called the “Everything BUT Marriage” bill. This was too close to marriage for the anti-equality folks, and they brought about Referendum 71, which would have repealed the recently passed bill. Fortunately, voters rejected R-71, and the bill stood. So, in lieu of REAL marriage, I will accept and cherish my domestic partnership. I WILL however push for full marriage equality.

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  • 17. Sagesse  |  February 12, 2011 at 8:07 am

    Ummm… is there going to be a report on last weekend’s Creating Change conference in Minnesota? Haven’t seen anything anywhere, and it sounded worthwhile. No pressure, you understand, and if you all haven’t thawed out yet, we would understand that too :).

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    • 18. Bob  |  February 12, 2011 at 12:07 pm

      ditto re feedback from the conference,,, specifically I’m interested on anyones take of the Civil Rights session on Sat at 9a.m. , and of course any other feedback….

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  • 19. Ray in MA  |  February 12, 2011 at 8:26 am

    Aloha! Some insight into Marriage in Hawaii before the “white man” arrived…

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    • 20. AnonyGrl  |  February 12, 2011 at 1:02 pm

      Wonderful!

      And like so many others, the Hawaiians seemed such a happy people before the missionaries got at them. My father’s family (not him, thank goodness) were missionaries of that sort… “Believe in God and we will teach you to read and write, give you medicine, help you build wells… but not till you believe!” Very unpleasant. We are not at all in contact with any of them anymore.

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    • 21. Ron  |  February 12, 2011 at 1:17 pm

      The added title page says Bette Midler is in this movie. Actually it’s Julie Andrews.

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      • 22. AnonyGrl  |  February 12, 2011 at 9:26 pm

        No, no… Julie Andrews is the wife that the Hawaiian woman says can stay… the title page is talking about a different character, who may well have been played by Bette Midler.

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        • 23. Carpool Cookie  |  February 13, 2011 at 11:09 am

          Bette Midler was raised in Hawaii. As a teen, she worked as an extra in the movie for I believe over a week. I think it was her first professional job. I don’t know if you can spot her in it, though. If you go to imdb and search that title, I bet the question has been addressed on the discussion board, or in the FAQ section.

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    • 24. Kathleen  |  February 12, 2011 at 1:28 pm

      According to imdb and wikipedia, Bette Midler appeared in this movie (uncredited) in a non-speaking role. In the clip, that’s supposedly her when the square appears around the 1 minute mark, but I couldn’t see her face.

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      • 25. Kathleen  |  February 12, 2011 at 1:30 pm

        There’s another clip on YouTube where you can see her. Look for “Bette Midler: Hawaii clip 1”

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      • 26. Carpool Cookie  |  February 13, 2011 at 11:10 am

        Ooops…I didn’t see these before answering. I think Midler worked in a pineapple canning factory while living there, too.

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  • 27. Lesbians Love Boies  |  February 12, 2011 at 9:22 am

    Great news. There seems to be many votes happening next week. It might be hard to keep track.

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  • 28. Ann S.  |  February 12, 2011 at 9:23 am

    Alo-o-o-o-ha!!

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  • 29. Sagesse  |  February 12, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Another hate group in the making

    CPAC Boycotters Kick Off Anti-Gay “Full Power Conservativism” Campaign

    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cpac-boycotters-kick-anti-gay-full-power-conservativism-campaign

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    • 30. Straight Ally #3008  |  February 12, 2011 at 12:19 pm

      “Full Power Conservatism?” What, was “Full Strength Homo Hate” taken? The fact that they’re against Mitch Daniels just raised his stock with me – as long as he’s not a creationist, he may have moved to my top pick for the GOP primaries (I intend to cast an anti-theocrat vote in ’12).

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    • 31. AnonyGrl  |  February 12, 2011 at 12:59 pm

      It scares the crap out of me that there are people who think that CPAC isn’t conservative ENOUGH! Because, frankly, CPAC is so conservative that reading their agenda made me nauseous.

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  • 32. Maria Lantz  |  February 12, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    watching

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  • 33. Ron  |  February 12, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    Very exciting about Hawaii – such a great feeling to see this after that bigot Lingle pulled her hateful move. The spirit of aloha will prevail over narrow minded bigotry in the islands! :)

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    • 34. Kathleen  |  February 12, 2011 at 1:40 pm

      While civil unions are a great step forward for Hawaii, I will truly celebrate the day the state extends full marriage equality. It will be a significant day, not only for Hawaiians, but also in the history of the marriage equality movement. Hawaii’s Supreme Court was the first court to rule that the denial of a marriage license to same sex couples is a violation of equal protection under its state’s constitution.

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      • 35. Joel  |  February 12, 2011 at 5:50 pm

        Hawaii has a long history of “non-traditional” marriage. Weren’t Hawaiian queens married to several men at once, including close relatives?

        I’m sick of civil unions. The are no more and no less a contract, and marriage is so much more. My husband and I juster-watched “Fiddler on the Roof”, and while it wasn’t the main theme, the importance of marriage to a couple, and to the community at large, was poignantly present throughout.

        Congratulations to Hawaii and to Illinois, but the victory is sour in my mouth, little better than a back-handed compliment.

        Sorry for the bitterness. I just wish that… Well, if wishes were horses…

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  • 36. Ronnie  |  February 12, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Derogatory words written on Lowell man’s door
    http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/12003516506787/derogatory-words-written-on-lowell-man-s-door/

    A 45-year-old man says he woke up on Friday morning to find all kinds of derogatory words and phrases written in black marker on his door in Lowell.

    The words “aids,” “snitch” and “get out” were written, along with gay slurs.

    “This is my home. This is my comfort zone. I should not have to feel that I should open my door and have verbal attacks,” said the victim……“I was singled out and targeted because I was a homosexual,” said the victim.

    (me) Are the police that are investigating this blind? They are not calling it a hate crime….yet the phrase “We hate f….” was written on his door…in the video attached to the article you can see the first letter to the word following “hate”….unacceptable… : I ….Ronnie

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    • 37. Bob  |  February 12, 2011 at 1:52 pm

      Thanks to this man for having the courage to stand up and face the issue head on ,, demanding justice, demnding that the police pursue it as a hate crime,,,, it takes people with great courage to move from being the victim , to act on principles and become heroes ,,, thanks to this man for standing up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! haters are criminals who act based on preconcieved notions that the victim will hide rather than pursue justice,,,, when justice is pursued and won, haters will have less and less incentive to act out their thoughts of hate,,,,,

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    • 38. Carpool Cookie  |  February 13, 2011 at 11:13 am

      Uggh. The other reason it’s important to follow up on a crime like that is what if it was a young person who did it? Obviously, they need counseling. Seriously, it could be some serial killing in the making…and they need help, for everyone’s sake.

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  • 39. Principle-Centered Boycotting  |  February 12, 2011 at 4:26 pm

    The “Covey” in FranklinCovey — the company that makes Franklin Planners (if anyone still uses those??) — is Stephen Covey, who wrote The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, Principle-Centered Leadership, and endless spinoffs. Covey (who is Mormon) had a home in Hawaii in the early 1990s, and actively campaigned there in opposition to same-sex marriage.

    Please bear that in mind if you are ever considering buying a FranklinCovey product (including organizational development consulting and training, and personal organizing products), or one of Covey’s books.

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    • 40. Carpool Cookie  |  February 13, 2011 at 11:16 am

      The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People…..

      Oy. I guess one of Mr. Covey’s recommended habits is squashing the socially downtrodden?

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  • 41. Michael  |  February 12, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    While I support the idea that all men are created equal which is inherent in same-sex marriage, I firmly believe we should be pushing civil unions in every other state where marriage is at this moment not possible. Better to advance half a step in many places than no steps in many places. In those places where radical anti-gay pressure groups such as NOM have created laws to stop civil unions, our goal should be ballot measures to overturn those particular provisions since the majority of Americans now support civil union protections for gay American families. Our strategic argument could be, “Leave the marriage part intact, but take out the civil unions parts.”

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    • 42. Sagesse  |  February 12, 2011 at 5:40 pm

      If it’s the best that can be done in a state, it is still a win. It is a vote ‘for’, and not a vote ‘against’.

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    • 43. Maggie4NoH8  |  February 14, 2011 at 9:52 am

      As far as I am concerned, it is a greater insult than nothing. It isn’t equal, and certainly does NOT provide the same protections and benefits of marriage.

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      • 44. Mark M - Seattle  |  February 14, 2011 at 1:58 pm

        No one is disputing that CUs are not the same as marriage but it IS better than nothing….and can be a foot hold towards marriage equality.

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  • 45. Richard A. Jernigan  |  February 12, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    Go, Go, Hawaii!

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  • 46. JPM  |  February 13, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Help get PPP to poll Rhode Island on Marriage Equality!

    Please go here and select Rhode Island.

    See this article at Pam’s House Blend for more details.

    No signups, no hassles. Just a click or two.

    Thank you!

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  • 47. PoxyHowzes  |  February 13, 2011 at 10:28 am

    I have a question related to Tomato’s at (now) #8. What happens *after* passage in HI, RI, NY, and MD? (But I know about MD, ’cause I live there*)

    Where can “the people” overturn a law, where can they not? How likely is it that a law will be overturned in each of the above states?

    *In MD, we’ll have a petition drive (needs 55,000 siggies, will get them one Sunday morning in RC churches), and then NOM will try to convert the 51% for marriage equality into a majority against, and might just succeed, IMHO.

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  • 48. Rhie  |  February 14, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    WAtching

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  • 49. Ray ban Sungalsses  |  March 24, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    For parents who are hands on with decorating their childrens room, choosing the right bedding design is a must. After selecting the right bed for that soon to be playful and sporty kid, it is time now to purchase bedding that matches the theme of the room and kind of bed. Although the other factors can be hard to consider, bedding with a baseball theme is quite easy. In general, kids bedding is available in different colors, sizes and patterns that can fit interests of anyone. You can find NFL bedding if you shop online. Some may offer discounts or promos for bulk orders. It doesnt actually stop in NFL bedding sets

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