Video: Your guide to NOM in 12 minutes

March 24, 2011 at 12:30 pm 23 comments

By Adam Bink

Since Jeremy might be too modest to post this himself, here’s the person I consider to be our community’s foremost expert speaking on all things NOM, and how he came to follow them, is worth your 12 minutes:

Three cheers for Jeremy, and Kevin at HRC, for helping expose NOM and keep them on the defense.

Entry filed under: NOM Exposed, Right-wing.

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  • 1. Kathleen  |  March 24, 2011 at 12:46 pm

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    • 2. JonT  |  March 24, 2011 at 1:48 pm

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  • 3. Zak  |  March 24, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    I was over at the NOM blog to see if they have posted anything about Colorado yet. They haven’t. But I found this…
    “If you want to protect your children from becoming homosexual and all of the sadness and emptiness that comes with that life, you have to fight to preserve marriage.”

    Here is the reply I posted:

    That is just wrong on SO many levels. Kids don’t “become” homosexuals. Either they are or they are not. Did you “become” straight?

    Preserving marriage will do NOTHING to stop kids from being born gay. I was born gay and I have two perfect parents who have been married 50+ years.

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    • 4. Mark M (Seattle)  |  March 24, 2011 at 1:01 pm

      I hope it makes it past moderation there :-)

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    • 5. Rhie  |  March 24, 2011 at 1:11 pm

      Exactly. It also puts way too much guilt on the good parents who don’t deserve it. If their kids turn out gay that MUST mean they did something wrong. That’s a totally horrible thing to do to loving parents who do their best for their kids.

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  • 6. Russell  |  March 24, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2011/03/video-this-is-what-school-indoctrination-really-looks-like.html#more

    Amazing stuff that kids are being taught in Catholic School

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    • 7. Mark M (Seattle)  |  March 24, 2011 at 1:46 pm

      Can’t wait to watch this tonight!
      Should be priceless

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      • 8. Felyx  |  March 24, 2011 at 9:31 pm

        Seriously awful. And that is just from an educational perspective!

        I remember in Catholic School we were all told that abortion fetuses were used in shampoos. I couldn’t believe it! Turns out it was just not something worth believing in. I remember reading an Ann Landers article. (Either her or Dear Abby… I think they were twins or something) which totally disproved it.

        You can only lie to intelligent children so long before they just stop believing you.

        Side note if interest… I am picturing myself sitting in that classroom bringing up seriously damning questions about the whole thing… come on… admit it… you were too! :P

        For all you religious out there… pro-science secularism comes from exactly this kind of indoct-ucation. Once you have to start dealing with these types of pseudofacts it is not a far step to dealing with other pseudofacts.

        (Spirituality tends to be far more honest in my opinion though.)

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        • 9. Felyx  |  March 24, 2011 at 9:33 pm

          Found the article…

          No! Beauty aids do not contain aborted fetuses

          Ann Landers
          The Chicago Sun-Times
          Features; Pg. 28
          15 July 1985

          DEAR ANN LANDERS: A woman wrote and asked if collagen, a substance used in some beauty products, was made from aborted babies. The writer claimed she had heard the story from an evangelist, a beauty consultant and her neighbor who works in a hospital. She said it broke her heart to think that little ears, hands and feet of murdered babies were being ground into powder and added to beauty products to help women look more youthful.

          You, Ann Landers, insisted there was no truth to the story, that the collagen used in cosmetics is hydrolyzed animal protein from leftovers in the slaughterhouses.

          I have just read an article by Olga Fairfax, Ph. D., of Wheaton, Md., director of Methodists United for Life. It is called, “101 Uses for a Dead (or Alive) Baby.” She said collagen in beauty products came from aborted babies and that fetuses were also used in experiments. […]

          I also read an article in the Liguorian by the Rev. James J. Higgins. He repeated many statements made by Olga Fairfax and added, “Some abortionists simply put the remains of unborn human beings in the alley for trash pickup. The more fastidious ones use compactors. The plastic bags are thrown on top of the bin, at the mercy of dogs and rats.”

          Father Higgins repeated the Fairfax story about living babies being dropped into meat grinders and he attributed that statement to the New England Journal of Medicine.

          How can you, Ann Landers, say this information is not true in the face of the evidence I have presented? Your readers deserve to know the facts.

          J.M. IN BETHESDA, MD.

          DEAR J.M.: I have seen Olga Fairfax’s article, also Father Higgins’s piece in the Liguorian. Never in my 30 years of writing this column have I run into such half-baked distortions, complete lies and twisted facts contrived to make a story sound believable. […]

          Many of Fairfax’s statements were startling, but my favorite was this: “A study was done on the severed heads of 12 babies delivered by C-section who were kept alive for months.” Yes, folks, you read right: “severed heads of 12 babies . . . kept alive for months.”

          When the label on a facial creme or shampoo says, “This product contains collagen,” it usually means collagen from slaughterhouse leftovers. When the label says, “This product contains human placenta,” it means they have used the afterbirth. The placenta is attached to the umbilical cord and also to the uterine wall. It is through the umbilical cord that the infant receives nourishment and disposes of waste matter while in the womb. When the child is delivered, the umbilical cord is cut and discarded along with the placenta. The placenta is NOT a fetus and herein lies the gross misrepresentation.

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        • 10. Richard A. Jernigan  |  March 24, 2011 at 9:35 pm

          Yes, Dear Abby and Ann Landers were identical twins.

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          • 11. Felyx  |  March 24, 2011 at 10:45 pm

            I guess that is why I could never tell their pictures apart. LOL

          • 12. Richard A. Jernigan  |  March 25, 2011 at 5:13 am

            Exactly. And their maiden name was Epstein. Of course, one of my favorite gems from these two was when one of them received a letter from a woman whose husband wanted to make love before going to Mass, so she wrote in to ask if there was anything wrong with that. Well, the dear columnist checked with one of her sources, who was a Catholic priest, and the answer given was that it would be okay so long as none of the rest of the congregation objected and they did not block the aisles!
            And no, I cannot remember whether it was Ann or Abby who received that letter.

      • 13. Felyx  |  March 24, 2011 at 10:44 pm

        This priest guys message is his most important objective.

        If you make some off the cuff comment that the DOJ ENFORCES laws… well no big deal right?

        Knowing which states allow marriage equality… well there wasn’t time to google it. (Clearly not germane to the real issue.)

        Things like just randomly making up that there are hate speech laws where there are not… not critical to his message really.

        Obviously the important objective was pushing a point of view… not education. (Unless it is education about a point of view… not a traditional form of education mind you… but traditional for modern totalitarian states.)

        Universal marriage truly is inevitable. (There will be more countries moving on this issue between now and when ours finally does!)… but what about the education system?… !!! This scares me!!! Facts not important? Single sided positions on social issues as a mandatory testable item instead of an opportunity for debate and creative writing and position papers? Sports referenced for boys since girls don’t matter? And we complain our children are not world leaders in educational levels?…!!!!

        I want to say I was near deaf in school and no one noticed because I made perfect scores by reading the book and cheating. I decided long ago that testing my memory was pointless since that was what books were for! While other children were struggling with memorizing facts (many of them like the ones this priest-guy desperately hopes to make those children memorize for life) I was testing theories, making well-thought out positions on writing assignments (being hard of hearing gives one lots of time to think about stuff instead of mindless chatting) and challenging the teacher on everything that didn’t stand up to scrutiny. The older I get, the less ashamed I am for so-called “cheating” and the prouder I get for relying on critical scrutiny, the scientific process, and organizational thinking as a way to understand and function in this world. These poor students now have over 90 minutes of ‘education’ that will never be in any way useful to them in their lives EVER!!!

        Pitiful!

        I could pick out quotes and just ridicule them but this one was my pick of the day!

        -Winless Teams-

        “The Packers still play the Lions on Thanksgiving day and that still brings a lot of money… ya see what I’m sayin’?”

        Because this is SOOOOOO relevant to marriage!!!

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  • 14. Sagesse  |  March 24, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    Will watch later.

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  • 15. Ray in MA  |  March 24, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    Thank ‘god’ there are people who are ‘NOM obsessive’ people on our side.

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  • 16. BBrown  |  March 24, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    The mainstream media headlines say the Americans people don’t care about marriage—let’s prove them wrong once again!

    Those headlines, as I’m sure you’ve heard, make the claim that the majority of Americans now support gay marriage.

    The Ninth Circuit refused to lift its stay on Judge Vaughn Walker’s decision invalidating Prop 8.
    The headline on our blog (I hope you get a chance to visit for the latest!) is Breaking News: Olson and Boies Lose Again!

    Now that’s a headline you don’t get to see anywhere else. And nowhere else will you hear that, as I told the press, “This continues a nearly unbroken string of losses for the so-called Dream Team in any court other than Judge Walker’s!”

    How many times have you had this experience? You read the headlines about gay marriage and you are depressed.

    Then you turn to read the weekly newsletter and you suddenly find out there’s a lot of good news that the mainstream media ignores. (Well, frankly, the conservative counter-media ignores it too, mostly.)

    Advocates of gay marriage have stopped persuading the American people that homosexual unions are marriages, so now the activists’ goal is to suppress, mislead, and depress the American people.

    The world they want you to believe in—to believe is a fact—is one where those who say, “To make a marriage you need a husband and wife because children need a mother and father” are viewed as irrational bigots.

    They need our consent to win this fight. They need us to give up. As long as we are willing to stand, in love and decency, for the good, they cannot win.

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    • 17. Ronnie  |  March 25, 2011 at 6:51 am

      The majority of Americans do support Marriage Equality….DEAL WITH IT!!!

      Homosexual unions are marriage…..DEAL WITH IT!!!!

      Wrong Fascist TROLL…you are the one whose goal is to supress, mislead, & depress the American people.

      The world you want people to believe in as fact is a repugnant, inhuman, theocratic DICTATORSHIP…..That last sentence is not what makes you an irrational BIGOT…its all the Fascist trash you spout out to justify your hate & discrimination that make you an irrational, selfish, BIGOT….get it right you benighted troglodyte.

      Children do NOT need a mother or a father….They need at least one parent, male or female, who will love & support them unconditionally….One parent who will provide them with the necessities to survive until the are capable to provide them for themselves such as food & water, shelter, clothing, healthcare, & a proper education (an education that your parent(s) clearly FAILED at providing you)…..a second parent is just a lucky & welcomed bonus. Whether that second parent be same-gender or opposite gender is irrelevant & you are beyond abhorrent in disrespecting other people’s families….SHAME ON YOUR PARENTS for how they raised you…….

      Wrong again, cryBB…. Marriage Equality supporters are the ones standing in love & decency, for the good…& you will NOT win…..

      Lastly, you are obviously a TROLL copy & pasting the un-American, selfish, arrogant, & BIGOTED rants of the Fascist Brian Brown…..Get a life & grow up….BOTH OF YOU…… >I ….Ronnie

      p.s…….. oIo

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    • 18. John B.  |  March 26, 2011 at 9:55 am

      Hey Brian Brown–assuming that really is you–can you tell us why you refuse to post virtually all dissenting comments submitted to your own blog, nomblog.com? I and several others have had our comments refused, over and over, when we try to post rebuttals, corrections, clarifications, or just plain disagreements, regardless of how polite or respectful we are. (Meanwhile virtually all posts by regulars such as “Don” seem to be posted, no matter how offensive or inane.) Are you afraid of your blog being overwhelmed by refutations of your arguments? Are you afraid of revealing just how few supporters you have reading it relative to opponents? Or are you just afraid that if visitors to your website are allowed to see the other side, to hear arguments counter to your own, they might be swayed away from the NOM party line?

      If there are other reasons I’ve overlooked as to why our comments never make it past “moderation”, do let us know.

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      • 19. John B.  |  March 26, 2011 at 10:27 am

        Here’s my latest comment submitted to the NOM blog at:

        http://nomblog.com/6631/#comments

        Not gonna hold my breath to see it posted, but maybe they’ll prove me wrong just out of spite:

        So… exactly who is attempting to “claim majority Catholic support for SSM”? Can you provide any direct quotes? Name names? Direct links? Because all the discussions I’ve seen make it pretty clear that the majority support is for for EITHER same-sex marriage OR civil unions. Meanwhile the number of people opposing ANY kind of legal recognition or protection for same-sex relationships is a very distinct minority… something all the polls show, but that your side likes to sweep under the rug.

        And let’s face it, the only way YOU can get “above the magic 50% figure” of Americans opposing same-sex marriage is by putting civil unions ON the table. So why do opponents of SSM nearly always oppose civil unions as well? Seems to me you’re the ones forcing Americans to choose between marriage or nothing, with no middle ground.

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  • 20. Richard A. Jernigan  |  March 24, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Will watch the video later. Trying to catch up before hitting the sack.

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  • 21. Richard A. Jernigan  |  March 24, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Let me try subscribing again. Got told the activation key was invalid, and when I went to use an older one, there was nothing pending. Is there a glitch tonight?

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  • 22. Zak  |  March 24, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    BBrown wrote:
    “Now that’s a headline you don’t get to see anywhere else. Then you turn to read the weekly newsletter and you suddenly find out there’s a lot of good news that the mainstream media ignores. (Well, frankly, the conservative counter-media ignores it too, mostly.)”

    Does that mean you just make this shit up??

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